Rioting

2011-08-10 11:46:40

#776

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5616|London, England

All I said is that the lifetime abusers are thieves. People like jord, who got on and off, well, that's what the system is there for. Most of these 'chavs' are lifetime dole cases, are they not? You've said it yourself that they come out of the council houses. They (as a group) already pull more money out of the system on a monthly basis than they stole or destroyed over the past four nights. My conversation with jord was in response to the petition, which I think is ridiculously simple-minded. Your parents voted for the system thinking it would be better than having beggars and thieves on the streets. You've allowed the would-be beggars to hold you hostage. We've done the same.

As for the guy deserving to get shot? No, I don't agree. I do however, recognize that it was his own fault for putting himself in the situation in the first place. No one forced him to carry a gun, or pull it out when confronted by cops. He didn't deserve to die, but he did make a series of bad decisions that led directly to his death.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-08-10 11:47:43

#777

PrivateVendetta: I DEMAND XMAS THEME; +704|6449|Roma

"Hello Rioters.
Look at your friend, now back to me, now at your friend, now back to me. Sadly, he isn't me. but if he stopped using antisocial behaviour and started using job centre he could be like me. Look down, back up. Where are we? You're at an interview, with the man your friend could work for. What's in his hand? It's an application form to that job he needs. Look again.
the form is now money! Anything is possible when you get a job and stop looting. I'm at a desk."

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2011-08-10 11:53:46

#778

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6728

seen that about 100 times on facebook this afternoon and it doesn't get any more witty or intelligent.

by the way the average person posting that bollocks left school at 16 and now has about 4 kids. congrats private.

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2011-08-10 12:02:13

#779

PrivateVendetta: I DEMAND XMAS THEME; +704|6449|Roma

thanks. guess the average person who left school at 18 doesn't have a commercial pilots license by the time they are 20 though

2011-08-10 12:13:34

#780

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6728

stop denigrating yourself then, if you're apparently smarter than that.

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2011-08-10 13:12:16

#781

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5616|London, England

Street violence swept across the United Kingdom for the third straight night Monday, with police expecting more as we went to press Tuesday. Whole neighborhoods of South London were warned by authorities to close up shop early as looters used cell phones and Blackberrys to pre-arrange their attacks.

At this point, even calling these nightly crime sprees riots seems a misnomer. A riot suggests a spontaneous outburst of violent rage, whether or not the underlying grievance is justified. What we have here may have started amid a protest against the police killing of a known criminal and gang member. It has since become something much more venal.

The police reaction to the initial looting and burning of the Tottenham High Road in North London resulted in more than 160 prompt arrests. But it also shattered the illusion that the police control the streets. In a few short days, a siege mentality has taken hold across large areas of London, one that the police are actively encouraging by exhorting the law-abiding to stay off the streets in targeted neighborhoods. The criminals behind the looting, arson and robbery know that this can't go on forever, and they've decided to maximize their opportunities while they last.

There is a notion that the criminality is the product of poverty or government spending cuts. That's false. The British government is spending as much as it ever has in history, and the poor in Britain have access to a social safety net that is remarkably generous by any standard. Then, too, the sort of people who torch cars and smash plate-glass windows to get at the jewelry and televisions inside are not, we suspect, highly correlated with those most put out by the reduced hours at the local library.

If there's a mystery here, it's that the recent violence is itself such an extraordinary happening. As writer and former prison doctor Theodore Dalrymple recently told this newspaper, "the question in Britain is not why there are so many burglars, but why there are so few." He explained that "only about one in 12 domestic burglaries is cleared up by the police," and that "of the burglars who are convicted, only about one in 12 or 13 is sent to prison."

In other words, a great deal of petty crime has come to be tolerated, excused, or seen as permissible or unavoidable in today's Britain. This attitude is only partly due to the difficulty of the police work involved. It also arises out of a sense of bad conscience—that people wouldn't do these things if they weren't driven to it by injustice or some other putative cause.

But these are not 18th-century sans-culottes, run out of bread. They aren't even Greek communists destroying property in order to demand the continuation of their welfare state. It is hooliganism pure and simple. If it serves as a wake up call, it should be to the fact that the veneer of civilization can be terrifyingly thin.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 … inion_main

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-08-10 13:46:19

#782

Mutantbear: Semi Constructive Criticism; +1,431|6222|London, England

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2011-08-10 13:48:22

#783

henno13: A generally unremarkable member; +230|6606|Belfast

UK riots: Iran calls on UN to intervene over 'violent suppression'

He really is taking the piss.

2011-08-10 13:49:41

#784

M.O.A.B: 'Light 'em up!'; +1,220|6480|Escea

He be trollin'

2011-08-10 13:50:00

#785

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6758|so randum

oh dinner jacket you so crazy

Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella

2011-08-10 13:51:56

#786

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6728

Jay wrote:
Street violence swept across the United Kingdom for the third straight night Monday, with police expecting more as we went to press Tuesday. Whole neighborhoods of South London were warned by authorities to close up shop early as looters used cell phones and Blackberrys to pre-arrange their attacks.

At this point, even calling these nightly crime sprees riots seems a misnomer. A riot suggests a spontaneous outburst of violent rage, whether or not the underlying grievance is justified. What we have here may have started amid a protest against the police killing of a known criminal and gang member. It has since become something much more venal.

The police reaction to the initial looting and burning of the Tottenham High Road in North London resulted in more than 160 prompt arrests. But it also shattered the illusion that the police control the streets. In a few short days, a siege mentality has taken hold across large areas of London, one that the police are actively encouraging by exhorting the law-abiding to stay off the streets in targeted neighborhoods. The criminals behind the looting, arson and robbery know that this can't go on forever, and they've decided to maximize their opportunities while they last.

There is a notion that the criminality is the product of poverty or government spending cuts. That's false. The British government is spending as much as it ever has in history, and the poor in Britain have access to a social safety net that is remarkably generous by any standard. Then, too, the sort of people who torch cars and smash plate-glass windows to get at the jewelry and televisions inside are not, we suspect, highly correlated with those most put out by the reduced hours at the local library.

If there's a mystery here, it's that the recent violence is itself such an extraordinary happening. As writer and former prison doctor Theodore Dalrymple recently told this newspaper, "the question in Britain is not why there are so many burglars, but why there are so few." He explained that "only about one in 12 domestic burglaries is cleared up by the police," and that "of the burglars who are convicted, only about one in 12 or 13 is sent to prison."

In other words, a great deal of petty crime has come to be tolerated, excused, or seen as permissible or unavoidable in today's Britain. This attitude is only partly due to the difficulty of the police work involved. It also arises out of a sense of bad conscience—that people wouldn't do these things if they weren't driven to it by injustice or some other putative cause.

But these are not 18th-century sans-culottes, run out of bread. They aren't even Greek communists destroying property in order to demand the continuation of their welfare state. It is hooliganism pure and simple. If it serves as a wake up call, it should be to the fact that the veneer of civilization can be terrifyingly thin.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 … inion_main

is this wsj guy trolling about england's social welfare and its support for the poor? has he checked out a single thing this current con-lib government have done since getting into power? shocking perspectives from an american... and rofl at the "socialist culture of being afraid to punish people" bit. oh christ what a cheapshot at a time like this.

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2011-08-10 13:54:06

#787

Toilet Sex: one love, one pig; +1,775|6829

henno13 wrote:
UK riots: Iran calls on UN to intervene over 'violent suppression'

He really is taking the piss.

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2011-08-10 13:59:59

#788

Stimey: +786|6378|Ontario | Canada

The cops should show up in the streets with some assault rifles.
I bet people would think twice then.

2011-08-10 14:10:07

#789

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6728

http://photoshoplooter.tumblr.com/

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2011-08-10 14:12:35

#790

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6728

rofl

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2011-08-10 14:12:49

#791

Beduin: Compensation of Reactive Power in the grid; +510|6008|شمال

henno13 wrote:
UK riots: Iran calls on UN to intervene over 'violent suppression'

He really is taking the piss.

ahhhhhahhaha

الشعب يريد اسقاط النظام
...show me the schematic

2011-08-10 14:16:52

#792

Toilet Sex: one love, one pig; +1,775|6829

Uzique wrote:
rofl

a design studio in manchester apparently have photoshopped looters on posters in their reception area already, i want to see that

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2011-08-10 16:00:49

#793

cpt.fass1: The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n; +329|6953|NJ

Has anyone stated that if you had looser gun laws this would have never happened?

2011-08-10 16:16:16

#794

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6728

shut up and go away

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2011-08-10 16:22:56

#795

Toilet Sex: one love, one pig; +1,775|6829

lol

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2011-08-10 16:47:42

#796

Mutantbear: Semi Constructive Criticism; +1,431|6222|London, England

Toilet Sex wrote:
lol

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2011-08-10 22:57:59

#797

jord: Member; +2,382|6936|The North, beyond the wall.

Uzique wrote:
shut up and go away

2011-08-11 01:30:01

#798

menzo: ̏̏̏̏̏̏̏̏&#; +616|6704|Amsterdam‫

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2011-08-11 01:34:14

#799

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6858|132 and Bush

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2011-08-11 01:37:10

#800

Kampframmer: Esq.; +313|5100|Amsterdam

She's stating the obvious really.
After an hour or so people forget what theyre actually fighting for, and just want to do damage and steal shit.

Same shit happened here when high schoolers went on strike. it was a lot less intense that these riots (A LOT LESS), but it was the same shit. People start to strike/riot over something and eventually they dont care and everyone joins in on leaving behind their daily business to throw rock at policemen.

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