What part of it's 99.9% steam did you not comprehend?Hurricane2k9 wrote:
But the likelihood of a meltdown isn't that great compared to the likelihood of coal plants producing poisonous gases (100%)
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how would solar panels installed on the rooftops of already existing buildings take up any more space? a huge windpark the size of a nuclear power plant takes up as much space as a power plant. efficency might be a problem, but this is (or at least I hope it is) only a matter of time.Jay wrote:
Why do people keep saying this? Where do you get your source material for your opinion? Decentralizing is much less efficient. Little boutique power plants dotting the landscape does nothing more than take up more space and require more infrastructure to be built. It doesn't make any sense. You're talking about using 50-100 times the space for the same result. It makes no sense.mr.hrundi wrote:
I think the winner would be a de-centralized energy system, with lots of small energy producing devices. a start would be solar panels on many private buildings, wind turbines in suitable spots, geothermal power generators where they work and so on. In other words: everybody produces a little bit of energy and puts it in a regionwide network.Jay wrote:
It's an issue, but everything has environmental issues. Nuclear has nuclear waste as well as heat, coal has it's waste and also releases heat into the local water supply (and the filters have to go somewhere too). Gas is similar to coal except without the solid material waste. Wind doesn't work all the time and kills birds/bats/insects while creating noise pollution. Solar requires heavy metals in manufacturing and doesn't work at night or in the winter. Both wind and solar require caustic batteries.
So... pick your poison. Personally, natural gas fired plants seem like the clear winner to me.
The factor I see working against this are the big companies. a de-centralized energy system would take away most of their profits.
Do yourself a favor and ignore what the greens say about energy. They're a bunch of morons without any scientific background. And yes, 'environmental science' is a fake science. They don't even have to take calculus or physics here
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I just got back from Memorial Day shooting my "toy" mini-14, and a bunch of M14s, M16A2s, AK47s, etc. lol Jay, don't take an internet forum seriously, it's not like I would use that choice of wording outside of my "relax and lower IQ to 0" forum browsing.Jay wrote:
If you use the word Nazis, or make further 'jokes' about Jews and Germany I will make it my mission to have you permabanned from this forum. Kindly fuck off back to your toy guns child.-Sh1fty- wrote:
Meh, my guess is they've played the Chernobyl part of CoD4 too many times or they're afraid a tsunami and earthquake will come cripple their plants since the Japanese got pretty screwed.Stimey wrote:
Why are people so tinfoil hat about nuclear power?
Isn't Germany pretty free of natural disasters? It's not like they get hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, tornadoes. or flooding.
Paranoid Nazis
well shit in that case, build baby build!Jay wrote:
Bah, most of their environmental impact (albeit local in nature) is located at the source of the coal mining operations. Parts of West Virginia are an ecological wasteland full of arsenic laced slurry ponds. Nasty, nasty shit.
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Although it would be nice, problem is, if a car blows up. You're fucked.-Sh1fty- wrote:
Anyway, back on topic, how safe is nuclear energy? I heard that it doesn't produce too much waste. If so, why are we using oil for electricity when we could be using the nuclear and have more fuel for cars, at maybe...a cheaper price? I donno
Ummmm... technological challenges aside which are, well, insurmountable (and that's coming from a hardcore techno-optimist), what happens if you have a car crash? You'd be royally fucked.-Sh1fty- wrote:
I just got back from Memorial Day shooting my "toy" mini-14, and a bunch of M14s, M16A2s, AK47s, etc. lol Jay, don't take an internet forum seriously, it's not like I would use that choice of wording outside of my "relax and lower IQ to 0" forum browsing.Jay wrote:
If you use the word Nazis, or make further 'jokes' about Jews and Germany I will make it my mission to have you permabanned from this forum. Kindly fuck off back to your toy guns child.-Sh1fty- wrote:
Meh, my guess is they've played the Chernobyl part of CoD4 too many times or they're afraid a tsunami and earthquake will come cripple their plants since the Japanese got pretty screwed.
Isn't Germany pretty free of natural disasters? It's not like they get hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, tornadoes. or flooding.
Paranoid Nazis
Anyway, back on topic, how safe is nuclear energy? I heard that it doesn't produce too much waste. If so, why are we using oil for electricity when we could be using the nuclear and have more fuel for cars, at maybe...a cheaper price? I donno
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Thought you wanted nuclear powered cars, you poorly typed the sentence which can make anyone misunderstand.-Sh1fty- wrote:
What the heck War Man?
Thought I heard there was something like that. I can't remember.Varegg wrote:
Electric power plants that burns oil ... you guys really have that?
As we've already explained, batteries are not the sole storage option.Jay wrote:
Solar panels on a rooftop are fine. But you're crazy if you think a windpark is the answer. It takes approximately 7 000 wind turbines to replace one nuclear power plant. Denmark has more wind energy per capita than any nation on the planet and it has resulted in exactly zero coal fired plants being shut down. Green energy can not, and will never, act as a direct replacement. It can act as a supplement (a really expensive and inefficient one), sure, but as a primary source of power? No. Not unless the price and efficiency of batteries improve exponentially.
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