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2011-05-12 05:07:15

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6975

Jay wrote:
lowing wrote:
Jay wrote:

Umm, why? They're right. Why on earth would you blame the victim? Do you feel women should wear burqas so men aren't tempted? Perhaps a return to the Victorian Age and a bit of ankle porn would serve you well.

Please. Anyone who blames the victim for their rape is a moron. If you can't control yourself, do the world a favor and chop off your balls.
Never ceases to amaze me how women spend billions of dollars a year on make up hair care, boob jobs, cosmetic surgeries, clothes etc, all to look more attractive and irresistible, and when they get the attention they are panning for, they are offended and want to sue.

Although to the letter of the law, these women are correct and I would never use "they asked for it", towards an acquittal, the fact is, by drawing that sexual attention toward you, knowing how some men can not control themselves, you are in effect asking for it.

If you leave your car windows down and your purse on the seat while you window shop, you are asking to get robbed. If you strut around in a miniskirt with your tits hanging out and act like a slut, chances are, you might be treated like one.
By that logic, strippers get what they deserve if they are raped.

It doesn't matter what a woman wears. She could walk down the street nude for all I care. If you can't control yourself it's your own fault, not hers. If you're that sexually repressed that you don't feel that you can control yourself then the problem lies with you, not the rest of society.

this is why i think lowing i just a huge troll account.

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2011-05-12 05:15:41

Shocking: sorry you feel that way; +333|6258|...

I'm not going to lay blame here, I'll just state that it's unwise to dress+act provocatively in the wrong places. There's fucked up people, so protecting yourself can go a long way.

That said, I really don't care how some women like to dress.

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inane little opines

2011-05-12 05:16:41

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6975

Shocking wrote:
I'm not going to lay blame here, I'll just state that it's unwise to dress+act provocatively in the wrong places. There's fucked up people. so protecting yourself can go a long way.

That said, I really don't care how some women like to dress.

its unwise walking to walk at the wrong place at night. unless you have anti-rape armor this changes nothing.

2011-05-12 05:26:32

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6729

Shocking wrote:
I'm not going to lay blame here, I'll just state that it's unwise to dress+act provocatively in the wrong places. There's fucked up people, so protecting yourself can go a long way.

That said, I really don't care how some women like to dress.

well you clearly do because you made some dumb comment on it. people should be able to dress as they wish - it's their body and their appearance. how does it really affect you as a person how somebody else wishes to dress? oh, it offends your sense of taste? here have a plaster to heal that wound. to try and defend any form of assault or grossly indecent behaviour because "she is invited it" is to be a horrible cunt of a man.

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2011-05-12 05:29:32

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6975

Uzique wrote:
Shocking wrote:
I'm not going to lay blame here, I'll just state that it's unwise to dress+act provocatively in the wrong places. There's fucked up people, so protecting yourself can go a long way.

That said, I really don't care how some women like to dress.
well you clearly do because you made some dumb comment on it. people should be able to dress as they wish - it's their body and their appearance. how does it really affect you as a person how somebody else wishes to dress? oh, it offends your sense of taste? here have a plaster to heal that wound. to try and defend any form of assault or grossly indecent behaviour because "she is invited it" is to be a horrible cunt of a man.

https://forladiesbyladies.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/pack-o-burqas.jpg

this really stopped the abuse and violence against women amirite?

2011-05-12 05:30:12

Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6796|Long Island, New York

We should just have every woman dress like they live in pre-Colonial America. That should settle the people here who think women "ask for it" by showing some cleavage, eh?

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2011-05-12 05:30:53

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6975

Poseidon wrote:
We should just have every woman dress like they live in pre-Colonial America. That should settle the people here who think women "ask for it" by showing some cleavage, eh?

http://eddieraysmoviereviews.files.word … /vob11.jpg

you can still see that fucking cunt whores face. deserved to be raped.

2011-05-12 05:37:37

Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|7034|Moscow, Russia

Uzique wrote:
Shocking wrote:
I'm not going to lay blame here, I'll just state that it's unwise to dress+act provocatively in the wrong places. There's fucked up people, so protecting yourself can go a long way.

That said, I really don't care how some women like to dress.
well you clearly do because you made some dumb comment on it. people should be able to dress as they wish - it's their body and their appearance. how does it really affect you as a person how somebody else wishes to dress? oh, it offends your sense of taste? here have a plaster to heal that wound. to try and defend any form of assault or grossly indecent behaviour because "she is invited it" is to be a horrible cunt of a man.

talk about over-reaction. dude, he simply stated a fact - there are fucked up people out there who might get provoked into hurting a woman if she dresses in certain way. it's unfortunate but that's the way it is.
should people be able to dress however they like? - absolutely. can they potentially provoke somebody into doing something inappropriate to them? - yes, unfortunately. nobody said we should condone such behavior or victimize the victims, but this is not a perfect world.
just saying.

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2011-05-12 05:37:56

Cheeky_Ninja06: Member; +52|6991|Cambridge, England

Uzique wrote:
Shocking wrote:
I'm not going to lay blame here, I'll just state that it's unwise to dress+act provocatively in the wrong places. There's fucked up people, so protecting yourself can go a long way.

That said, I really don't care how some women like to dress.
well you clearly do because you made some dumb comment on it. people should be able to dress as they wish - it's their body and their appearance. how does it really affect you as a person how somebody else wishes to dress? oh, it offends your sense of taste? here have a plaster to heal that wound. to try and defend any form of assault or grossly indecent behaviour because "she is invited it" is to be a horrible cunt of a man.

Over reaction much?

Yes people should be able to dress as they wish.

They should be able to leave their possessions without fear of them being stolen.
They should be able to let their kids play outside
They shouldn't have to worry about being stabbed / mugged / attacked when they go out

There are a million things that people should be able to do, but the reality is that our society is not full of upstanding model citizens. So faced with the reality that other people will do whatever they can to get whatever they want and that many of them do not share "our" sense of morality, what should one do to minimise the chances of becoming a victim?

2011-05-12 05:41:56

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6729

i don't see why the risk of deranged and immoral people should coerce everyone else by fear into not doing what they want.

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2011-05-12 05:43:24

Shocking: sorry you feel that way; +333|6258|...

Uzique wrote:
Shocking wrote:
I'm not going to lay blame here, I'll just state that it's unwise to dress+act provocatively in the wrong places. There's fucked up people, so protecting yourself can go a long way.

That said, I really don't care how some women like to dress.
well you clearly do because you made some dumb comment on it. people should be able to dress as they wish - it's their body and their appearance. how does it really affect you as a person how somebody else wishes to dress? oh, it offends your sense of taste? here have a plaster to heal that wound. to try and defend any form of assault or grossly indecent behaviour because "she is invited it" is to be a horrible cunt of a man.

It doesn't affect me at all, I clearly stated I personally do not care. Why is it considered some sort of insult if I state it may be unwise to dress provocatively in some places?

If you're going to walk into the local immigrant neighbourhood here dressed as what people consider 'provocative', people are going to chase after you. That's a fact. Nothing I can do about it.

inane little opines

2011-05-12 05:52:00

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6975

Cheeky_Ninja06 wrote:
Uzique wrote:
Shocking wrote:
I'm not going to lay blame here, I'll just state that it's unwise to dress+act provocatively in the wrong places. There's fucked up people, so protecting yourself can go a long way.

That said, I really don't care how some women like to dress.
well you clearly do because you made some dumb comment on it. people should be able to dress as they wish - it's their body and their appearance. how does it really affect you as a person how somebody else wishes to dress? oh, it offends your sense of taste? here have a plaster to heal that wound. to try and defend any form of assault or grossly indecent behaviour because "she is invited it" is to be a horrible cunt of a man.
Over reaction much?

Yes people should be able to dress as they wish.

They should be able to leave their possessions without fear of them being stolen.
They should be able to let their kids play outside
They shouldn't have to worry about being stabbed / mugged / attacked when they go out

There are a million things that people should be able to do, but the reality is that our society is not full of upstanding model citizens. So faced with the reality that other people will do whatever they can to get whatever they want and that many of them do not share "our" sense of morality, what should one do to minimise the chances of becoming a victim?

https://www.yorapper.com/Photos/you-gonna-get-raped-yorapper.jpg

You think people don't minimise their chances of becoming a victim? some people just live in shitty areas because they dont have the money to move out. who the fuck wouldn't care for their own safety? hell anything can happen wherever you live.

2011-05-12 05:52:26

Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|7034|Moscow, Russia

Uzique wrote:
i don't see why the risk of deranged and immoral people should coerce everyone else by fear into not doing what they want.

it shouldn't, but it does coerce some people into just that. there are a lot of things happening in this world that shouldn't be, and one should at least be aware of them and of the options available.

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2011-05-12 06:01:27

Cheeky_Ninja06: Member; +52|6991|Cambridge, England

Cybargs wrote:
Cheeky_Ninja06 wrote:
Uzique wrote:

well you clearly do because you made some dumb comment on it. people should be able to dress as they wish - it's their body and their appearance. how does it really affect you as a person how somebody else wishes to dress? oh, it offends your sense of taste? here have a plaster to heal that wound. to try and defend any form of assault or grossly indecent behaviour because "she is invited it" is to be a horrible cunt of a man.
Over reaction much?

Yes people should be able to dress as they wish.

They should be able to leave their possessions without fear of them being stolen.
They should be able to let their kids play outside
They shouldn't have to worry about being stabbed / mugged / attacked when they go out

There are a million things that people should be able to do, but the reality is that our society is not full of upstanding model citizens. So faced with the reality that other people will do whatever they can to get whatever they want and that many of them do not share "our" sense of morality, what should one do to minimise the chances of becoming a victim?
You think people don't minimise their chances of becoming a victim? some people just live in shitty areas because they dont have the money to move out. who the fuck wouldn't care for their own safety? hell anything can happen wherever you live.

Plenty of people are to naive to care for their own safety and they use your argument as justification.

Personally I know people who have been raped and have even been the one sitting next to them in court helping them through the trial.

Despite this its not usual for people to go out and get so drunk / high that they wake up in somebody's house and have no recollection of how they got there. Its not exactly the best way to stay safe though is it.

Nobody deserves to be raped or a victim of any crime for that matter but dont try and tell me that people dont do stupid things and put themselves in needless danger.

2011-05-12 06:08:47

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6365|eXtreme to the maX

Uzique wrote:
Shocking wrote:
I'm not going to lay blame here, I'll just state that it's unwise to dress+act provocatively in the wrong places. There's fucked up people, so protecting yourself can go a long way.

That said, I really don't care how some women like to dress.
well you clearly do because you made some dumb comment on it. people should be able to dress as they wish - it's their body and their appearance. how does it really affect you as a person how somebody else wishes to dress? oh, it offends your sense of taste? here have a plaster to heal that wound. to try and defend any form of assault or grossly indecent behaviour because "she is invited it" is to be a horrible cunt of a man.

Its worth remembering there are psycopaths, people from third world countries and men with the mental age of toddlers walking the streets.

If girls dress provocatively theres a chance at least they'll run into trouble, just as a man would driving a Bentley and flashing his Rolex around the shitty parts of town.

This doesn't mean any woman in a short dress deserves to be raped, just they should think a little.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2011-05-12 06:09:34)

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2011-05-12 06:11:02

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6975

Dilbert_X wrote:
Uzique wrote:
Shocking wrote:
I'm not going to lay blame here, I'll just state that it's unwise to dress+act provocatively in the wrong places. There's fucked up people, so protecting yourself can go a long way.

That said, I really don't care how some women like to dress.
well you clearly do because you made some dumb comment on it. people should be able to dress as they wish - it's their body and their appearance. how does it really affect you as a person how somebody else wishes to dress? oh, it offends your sense of taste? here have a plaster to heal that wound. to try and defend any form of assault or grossly indecent behaviour because "she is invited it" is to be a horrible cunt of a man.
Its worth remembering there are psycopaths, people from third world countries and men with the mental age of toddlers walking the streets.

If girls dress provocatively theres a chance at least they'll run into trouble, just as a man would driving a Bentley and flashing his Rolex around the shitty parts of town.

This doesn't mean any woman in a short dress deserves to be raped, just they should think a little.

even if you wore something conservatively wont stop a rapist. rape is more about power and control than sex.

2011-05-12 06:27:21

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5437|Sydney

Cybargs wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
Uzique wrote:

well you clearly do because you made some dumb comment on it. people should be able to dress as they wish - it's their body and their appearance. how does it really affect you as a person how somebody else wishes to dress? oh, it offends your sense of taste? here have a plaster to heal that wound. to try and defend any form of assault or grossly indecent behaviour because "she is invited it" is to be a horrible cunt of a man.
Its worth remembering there are psycopaths, people from third world countries and men with the mental age of toddlers walking the streets.

If girls dress provocatively theres a chance at least they'll run into trouble, just as a man would driving a Bentley and flashing his Rolex around the shitty parts of town.

This doesn't mean any woman in a short dress deserves to be raped, just they should think a little.
even if you wore something conservatively wont stop a rapist. rape is more about power and control than sex.

Glad someone said it, only took three pages

There was a very violent rape in Brisbane recently. The woman was conservatively dressed and walking to the bus on a main road in West End on a Friday night. Just wrong place, wrong time. The CCTV footage they showed on the news even had people walking past moments before she was taken up a side street. Police said the injuries she sustained from her two attackers were horrific, both externally and internally.

If she was dressed in a miniskirt and showed some cleavage, would she have somehow "asked for it" more than compared to the jeans and shirt she was wearing?

2011-05-12 06:37:21

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5617|London, England

Shahter wrote:
Uzique wrote:
Shocking wrote:
I'm not going to lay blame here, I'll just state that it's unwise to dress+act provocatively in the wrong places. There's fucked up people, so protecting yourself can go a long way.

That said, I really don't care how some women like to dress.
well you clearly do because you made some dumb comment on it. people should be able to dress as they wish - it's their body and their appearance. how does it really affect you as a person how somebody else wishes to dress? oh, it offends your sense of taste? here have a plaster to heal that wound. to try and defend any form of assault or grossly indecent behaviour because "she is invited it" is to be a horrible cunt of a man.
talk about over-reaction. dude, he simply stated a fact - there are fucked up people out there who might get provoked into hurting a woman if she dresses in certain way. it's unfortunate but that's the way it is.
should people be able to dress however they like? - absolutely. can they potentially provoke somebody into doing something inappropriate to them? - yes, unfortunately. nobody said we should condone such behavior or victimize the victims, but this is not a perfect world.
just saying.

No one should be forced to live their life in fear though. Are there fucked up individuals? Yes. Are they rare? Yes. But to then blame the woman when she encounters one of these rare creatures is absurd. "She asked for it" is despicable. In fact, I would place the blame on society for being too closed about sex. Sexual repression leads to incidents like rape, not women being too open about their sexuality. In fact, I'm fairly certain that if the world were suddenly turned into a giant nudists colony that the incidents of rape would be reduced to near zero.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-05-12 06:45:21

Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|7034|Moscow, Russia

Jay wrote:
No one should be forced to live their life in fear though.

agreed.

Are there fucked up individuals? Yes. Are they rare? Yes. But to then blame the woman when she encounters one of these rare creatures is absurd.

sure.

"She asked for it" is despicable.

couldn't say it better myself.

In fact, I would place the blame on society for being too closed about sex.

right.

Sexual repression leads to incidents like rape, not women being too open about their sexuality.

yeah.

In fact, I'm fairly certain that if the world were suddenly turned into a giant nudists colony that the incidents of rape would be reduced to near zero.

are we that colony yet? no? then we should at least make people aware of the problem and consider certain behavior that might reduce the risk.

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2011-05-12 07:00:30

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5437|Sydney

Statistically victims of rape far more often know their attackers than not.
And if it's about power instead of sex (which it usually is) then it doesn't really matter how a woman is dressed.

2011-05-12 07:03:37

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5844

i don't see why the risk of deranged and immoral people should coerce everyone else by fear into not doing what they want.

I find it really funny that some of the people in this thread who agree with this statement and are upset with the police officers advice are also some of the forums biggest advocates of gun control. The point of uzique's statement of not being beholden to the dredges of society is the same argument many gun control opponents use and are regularly rejected by the gun control advocates on this forum.

I don't mean to derail the thread or anything. It's just something I find amusing.

2011-05-12 07:14:27

Ty: Mass Media Casualty; +2,398|7033|Noizyland

First off I don't agree that women who dress promiscuously are "asking for it" by any means. If somone looks hungry it doesn't mean they want a sausage shoved down their throat.

BUT

Let's be sensible here. I see girls in town all the time, they're scantily dressed, they're pissed out of their minds and they're making idots of themselves. It's not smart and it's not safe, simple as that. I'm not excusing rape as "just one of those things that happen" either but getting drunk off your arse and wandering around stupidly - especially alone - isn't safe for any gender regardless of what they're wearing. Hell I amost had a really bad experience myself, thankfully I was sober enough for the adrenalin to act and allow me to run the fuck away. Not so easy if you're wearing heals I imagine.

The problem isn't necessarily dressing or even acting like a slut it's just acting like an idiot. The world isn't a particularly safe place, that's why you take precautions. It's why you wear a seat belt when you drive, it's why you lock your house when you leave it and it's why you don't get shitfaced and wander on your own through the streets at night.

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2011-05-12 07:25:38

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6756

Ty wrote:
The problem . . . it's just acting like an idiot.

is that a bannable offense?

2011-05-12 07:39:02

Ty: Mass Media Casualty; +2,398|7033|Noizyland

Can be.

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2011-05-12 07:43:03

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6975

please ban warman ty. PLEASE.

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