And what, one post wouldn't have sufficed?11 Bravo wrote:
lol im not spamming. i am calling out all the idiots who responded with their uneducated and ignorant opinions. deal with it.
Poll
Do you Favor a NATO Enforced No-Fly Zone in Libya?
| Yes | 57% | 57% - 30 | ||||
| No | 32% | 32% - 17 | ||||
| Undecided | 9% | 9% - 5 | ||||
| Total: 52 | ||||||
cba to quote every person in one post. i always get a bb code error.
so, how are those oil prices?
so, how are those oil prices?
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A lot more stable than if Gaddafi bombed his refineries, no doubt.
and he was going to?
It's not a far stretch to imagine he would. I'd rather not take the risk.
maybe if we left him alone then he would have no reason to
Look, gas prices are rising over here. Why did we get involved in Libya?
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
they have been rising way before libya. libya has fuck all to do with gas prices. why cant people get that?
More like the Middle East, some fucking event happens there, an extra boost in gas prices. Getting annoyed with that.11 Bravo wrote:
they have been rising way before libya. libya has fuck all to do with gas prices. why cant people get that?
Only way to fix that is get rid of corn ethanol, then drill our own oil and natural gas on and near our own continent. Politicians suck
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The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
you know libya isnt in the middle east?War Man wrote:
More like the Middle East, some fucking event happens there, an extra boost in gas prices. Getting annoyed with that.11 Bravo wrote:
they have been rising way before libya. libya has fuck all to do with gas prices. why cant people get that?
Only way to fix that is get rid of corn ethanol, then drill our own oil and natural gas on and near our own continent. Politicians suck
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
It ain't too far from it.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
If you tap every well in the U.S. you won't bring down gas prices at all.War Man wrote:
More like the Middle East, some fucking event happens there, an extra boost in gas prices. Getting annoyed with that.11 Bravo wrote:
they have been rising way before libya. libya has fuck all to do with gas prices. why cant people get that?
Only way to fix that is get rid of corn ethanol, then drill our own oil and natural gas on and near our own continent. Politicians suck
Of course Libya has something to do with oil prices, read macbeths link.11 Bravo wrote:
they have been rising way before libya. libya has fuck all to do with gas prices. why cant people get that?
uhhhh I think you misunderstood my point. Gaddfi damn near stomped out the rebels before we got involved.jord wrote:
Of course Libya has something to do with oil prices, read macbeths link.11 Bravo wrote:
they have been rising way before libya. libya has fuck all to do with gas prices. why cant people get that?
I was referring to your wiki link not your point.Macbeth wrote:
uhhhh I think you misunderstood my point. Gaddfi damn near stomped out the rebels before we got involved.jord wrote:
Of course Libya has something to do with oil prices, read macbeths link.11 Bravo wrote:
they have been rising way before libya. libya has fuck all to do with gas prices. why cant people get that?
no it doesntjord wrote:
Of course Libya has something to do with oil prices, read macbeths link.11 Bravo wrote:
they have been rising way before libya. libya has fuck all to do with gas prices. why cant people get that?
The oil market reacts badly to instability in high oil producing places. Gaddfi was finishing off the rebels at the time we got involved. HE ALMOST MADE THE PLACE STABLE. Our attack prolonged the destabilization.jord wrote:
I was referring to your wiki link not your point.Macbeth wrote:
uhhhh I think you misunderstood my point. Gaddfi damn near stomped out the rebels before we got involved.jord wrote:
Of course Libya has something to do with oil prices, read macbeths link.
You can defend the NFO all you want but you have no argument when it comes to gas prices.
I'm not going to defend the NFO, I don't care about the ethics of this conflict.
It isn't a far stretch to imagine a dictator that has no problem cluster bombing his civilian population wouldn't then bomb an oil refinery in rebel held land. It's pragmatic at this point to remove Gaddafi.
It isn't a far stretch to imagine a dictator that has no problem cluster bombing his civilian population wouldn't then bomb an oil refinery in rebel held land. It's pragmatic at this point to remove Gaddafi.
So a country with the 9th highest oil reserve in the world has no effect whatsoever on oil prices?11 Bravo wrote:
no it doesntjord wrote:
Of course Libya has something to do with oil prices, read macbeths link.11 Bravo wrote:
they have been rising way before libya. libya has fuck all to do with gas prices. why cant people get that?
Ok.
I don't care about the ethics of it either. My argument against it was from a purely pragmatic point of view.jord wrote:
I'm not going to defend the NFO, I don't care about the ethics of this conflict.
It isn't a far stretch to imagine a dictator that has no problem cluster bombing his civilian population wouldn't then bomb an oil refinery in rebel held land. It's pragmatic at this point to remove Gaddafi.
Re: blowing up an oil refinery. He wouldn't, he as you said is a dictator. He doesn't care about his own people he cares about his life of luxury. He wouldn't blow up something that produces money and continues his luxury.
If it isn't within his control it isn't making him money.Macbeth wrote:
I don't care about the ethics of it either. My argument against it was from a purely pragmatic point of view.jord wrote:
I'm not going to defend the NFO, I don't care about the ethics of this conflict.
It isn't a far stretch to imagine a dictator that has no problem cluster bombing his civilian population wouldn't then bomb an oil refinery in rebel held land. It's pragmatic at this point to remove Gaddafi.
Re: blowing up an oil refinery. He wouldn't, he as you said is a dictator. He doesn't care about his own people he cares about his life of luxury. He wouldn't blow up something that produces money and continues his luxury.
Like I said. The rebels were on the way out. He would have gotten control of the refinery's eventually. After putting down a civil war do you think it would be nice to have all of your refineries or to be down 1, 2, or 3 for no reason?
I'm debating the here and now, so like I said...Macbeth wrote:
Like I said. The rebels were on the way out. He would have gotten control of the refinery's eventually. After putting down a civil war do you think it would be nice to have all of your refineries or to be down 1, 2, or 3 for no reason?
It's pragmatic at this point to remove Gaddafi
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