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allowed nuclear secrets to fall through the cracks
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You can dig up dirt on any President and say he sucked. Same goes for any other human being on the planet. I still have Eisenhower in my top 5 and he blows every other post-wwii president out of the water.
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Aside from the two you listed John, the Marshall plan was done under his watch.

On a sidenote, nice way to downplay both of those events.

Last edited by Macbeth (2010-08-11 21:07:46)

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Ha, the WSJ agrees with me that the best president is one that spends his days golfing

One of the more puzzling conservative and, increasingly, mainstream media critiques of President Obama is that he plays too hard, or too much, or something.

The same cable TV and talk-radio hosts who don't seem to work on Fridays in the summer object that Mr. Obama has played golf 44 times as President, more often even than that notorious weekend warrior, George W. Bush. The latest alleged outrage is that the President indulged his inner teenager too heartily on his birthday weekend when Michelle was in Majorca, hooping it up with NBA stars and perhaps even sneaking in a cigar or two in between mulligans on the links.

We can see why media snarks with nothing else to say would stoop to this line, but what's up with the right? The objection always sounded petty and partisan when liberals threw it at Mr. Bush, and it sounds no more persuasive when leveled against a liberal President. One of the more useful conservative insights is that life shouldn't be ruled by politics, and that is no less true merely because we live in a 24/7 cable TV news cycle.

We wish Mr. Obama played more golf. Seven days a week, in fact. Imagine how much better off America would be—and how much more popular the President would be—had he taken the rising public protests against ObamaCare last summer as an opening to drop the subject and work on his handicap?

The more Mr. Obama and his White House team practice their putting strokes, the less time they'd have to pass more stimulus, overregulate more industries, or raise more taxes. The economy would recover more rapidly with less political handling.

So by all means, swing away, Mr. President. Work on that jump shot, polish your short game, practice your fly cast mending. Then watch GDP and your approval ratings rise.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 … inion_main
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wsj is newscorp
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eleven bravo wrote:

wsj is newscorp
Only recently.
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JohnG@lt wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

wsj is newscorp
Only recently.
But Murdoch has total editorial control now.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

wsj is newscorp
Only recently.
But Murdoch has total editorial control now.
Right. Yeah. Ok.
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JohnG@lt wrote:

Right. Yeah. Ok.
According to articles I've read he does, it was sold to him on the basis he wouldn't meddle, and he reneged on that immediately.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Right. Yeah. Ok.
According to articles I've read he does, it was sold to him on the basis he wouldn't meddle, and he reneged on that immediately.
Even if that were true, why exactly would it negate anything?
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JohnG@lt wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Right. Yeah. Ok.
According to articles I've read he does, it was sold to him on the basis he wouldn't meddle, and he reneged on that immediately.
Even if that were true, why exactly would it negate anything?
Instead of being a reasoned opinion with evidence to back it up it suddenly becomes Fox in print, ie nothing more than Murdoch's agenda.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:


According to articles I've read he does, it was sold to him on the basis he wouldn't meddle, and he reneged on that immediately.
Even if that were true, why exactly would it negate anything?
Instead of being a reasoned opinion with evidence to back it up it suddenly becomes Fox in print, ie nothing more than Murdoch's agenda.
While I certainly don't agree with all of the editorials written in the paper, there are some gems and the one I posted is one of them.
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Dr. Laura thing aside, if this is the best CNN can come up with then they deserve the ratings pummeling by Fox News.

It's not intelligent anaylsis, it's one sided and unfair, and really really boring.
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Macbeth wrote:

Dr. Laura thing aside, if this is the best CNN can come up with then they deserve the ratings pummeling by Fox News.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUdCk4AV5ag
It's not intelligent anaylsis, it's one sided and unfair, and really really boring.
Who's the ugly cow on the right?
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I dunno lol

3:30 onward convinced me Alan Grayson is retarded.
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Macbeth wrote:

Dr. Laura thing aside, if this is the best CNN can come up with then they deserve the ratings pummeling by Fox News.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUdCk4AV5ag
It's not intelligent anaylsis, it's one sided and unfair, and really really boring.
Stopped watching after they showed what someone said about it on twitter.

Fuck the news. I don't see why you have to watch the news to get the news. I haven't sat in front of a television for news in I don't know how long. I don't see why you need anything more than text. I don't see how you can make a legitimate case for anything but text doing something more than dumbing down the news, particularly in context of our current media situation.

When I say "only text" I of course refer to something you would find in a newspaper or in an internet article, which could include relevant pictures, charts, graphs, etc.

edit: to the next video, LOLOLOL Moses
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I agree 100% with FM. The last time I watched the news was probably during the Iraq invasion. I don't get the allure of watching talking heads yelling at each other on tv, or presenting the news couched in their own deep seated opinions. What some former journalism major on CNBC/MSNBC/CNN/FOX has to say on a subject doesn't interest me in the slightest.
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Unfortunate as here some of the best, sharpest and most neutral journalists are on TV.
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Nah TV for me is also a dead medium pretty much, so much crap
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some of it is absolutely awful here ofc but the good bits are very good. (q&a, 7:30, the "-lines", etc)
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JohnG@lt wrote:

I agree 100% with FM. The last time I watched the news was probably during the Iraq invasion. I don't get the allure of watching talking heads yelling at each other on tv, or presenting the news couched in their own deep seated opinions. What some former journalism major on CNBC/MSNBC/CNN/FOX has to say on a subject doesn't interest me in the slightest.
They are somewhat crap.

Newsprint is much better, once you learn to sort the opinion and agenda from the reporting.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

I agree 100% with FM. The last time I watched the news was probably during the Iraq invasion. I don't get the allure of watching talking heads yelling at each other on tv, or presenting the news couched in their own deep seated opinions. What some former journalism major on CNBC/MSNBC/CNN/FOX has to say on a subject doesn't interest me in the slightest.
They are somewhat crap.

Newsprint is much better, once you learn to sort the opinion and agenda from the reporting.
bloomberg is a good channel
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eleven bravo wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

I agree 100% with FM. The last time I watched the news was probably during the Iraq invasion. I don't get the allure of watching talking heads yelling at each other on tv, or presenting the news couched in their own deep seated opinions. What some former journalism major on CNBC/MSNBC/CNN/FOX has to say on a subject doesn't interest me in the slightest.
They are somewhat crap.

Newsprint is much better, once you learn to sort the opinion and agenda from the reporting.
bloomberg is a good channel
Sure, except the founder is a douchebag who has trampled on three popular votes in order to remain in power. Hizzoner is a swell guy.
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still a good channel.  thats where charlie rose has his show
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