Kmar
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Then congress is speculating on future use, and appropriating funding towards it, while the military is saying cut it and give us what we need now..?
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Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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Until its commercialised and sold at a profit 'technology development' is just socialism for geeks. That its 'still there' doesn't mean anything if its sitting in a hangar under a tarpaulin.

And a fat part of the money spent on arms companies goes straight back to the politicians as lobbying money.
Neat eh?
Fuck Israel
lowing
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went to Kmar's karma to make sure my karma made sense and saw this

"lol, this topic is about military spending by congress and lowing attempts to change it into a "welfare is for lazy people!!11"

no eleven bravo, this topic is on the outrage of govt. wasting taxpayer money.  It takes no imagination at all to connect that topic to the REAL waste of money by govt. at a rate of X25!!

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Dilbert_X
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Military spending is just welfare for angry people.
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11 Bravo
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lowing wrote:

went to Kmar's karma to make sure my karma made sense and say this

"lol, this topic is about military spending by congress and lowing attempts to change it into a "welfare is for lazy people!!11"

no eleven bravo, this topic is on the outrage of govt. wasting taxpayer money.  It takes no imagination at all to connect that topic to the REAL waste of money by govt. at a rate of X25!!
i never sent you a karma and eleven aint on
lowing
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Kmar wrote:

Then congress is speculating on future use, and appropriating funding towards it, while the military is saying cut it and give us what we need now..?
one possibility I would guess.
lowing
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11 Bravo wrote:

lowing wrote:

went to Kmar's karma to make sure my karma made sense and saw this

"lol, this topic is about military spending by congress and lowing attempts to change it into a "welfare is for lazy people!!11"

no eleven bravo, this topic is on the outrage of govt. wasting taxpayer money.  It takes no imagination at all to connect that topic to the REAL waste of money by govt. at a rate of X25!!
i never sent you a karma and eleven aint on
re read, never said YOU sent ME karma
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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11 Bravo wrote:

lowing wrote:

went to Kmar's karma to make sure my karma made sense and say this

"lol, this topic is about military spending by congress and lowing attempts to change it into a "welfare is for lazy people!!11"

no eleven bravo, this topic is on the outrage of govt. wasting taxpayer money.  It takes no imagination at all to connect that topic to the REAL waste of money by govt. at a rate of X25!!
i never sent you a karma and eleven aint on
Next guess..lol

Protip: look at the live page.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
11 Bravo
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lowing wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

lowing wrote:

went to Kmar's karma to make sure my karma made sense and saw this

"lol, this topic is about military spending by congress and lowing attempts to change it into a "welfare is for lazy people!!11"

no eleven bravo, this topic is on the outrage of govt. wasting taxpayer money.  It takes no imagination at all to connect that topic to the REAL waste of money by govt. at a rate of X25!!
i never sent you a karma and eleven aint on
re read, never said YOU sent ME karma
you re read
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http://forums.bf2s.com/live.php

match up the time the karma was given to kmar with that list and you get the mystery karma man, lowing.
lowing
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Until its commercialised and sold at a profit 'technology development' is just socialism for geeks. That its 'still there' doesn't mean anything if its sitting in a hangar under a tarpaulin.

And a fat part of the money spent on arms companies goes straight back to the politicians as lobbying money.
Neat eh?
I  would say 90% of the crap you use right now, was a development from R and D for govt. use.
lowing
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11 Bravo wrote:

lowing wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:


i never sent you a karma and eleven aint on
re read, never said YOU sent ME karma
you re read
lol I did, and I never said YOU sent ME any karma.
11 Bravo
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lowing wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

lowing wrote:


re read, never said YOU sent ME karma
you re read
lol I did, and I never said YOU sent ME any karma.
..and eleven aint on
lowing
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11 Bravo wrote:

lowing wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:


you re read
lol I did, and I never said YOU sent ME any karma.
..and eleven aint on
11, eleven, you both look alike to me. my apologies.
Dilbert_X
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lowing wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Until its commercialised and sold at a profit 'technology development' is just socialism for geeks. That its 'still there' doesn't mean anything if its sitting in a hangar under a tarpaulin.

And a fat part of the money spent on arms companies goes straight back to the politicians as lobbying money.
Neat eh?
I  would say 90% of the crap you use right now, was a development from R and D for govt. use.
And did the govt get a return on the investment or did the commercial companies whose research the govt funded take the profit?

Most of the defence industry is like the pyramids - pointless crap to keep people who would otherwise be unemployed busy.
Its also a socialised way of giving US companies a competitive advantage - something they wouldn't otherwise have.
Fuck Israel
lowing
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Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Until its commercialised and sold at a profit 'technology development' is just socialism for geeks. That its 'still there' doesn't mean anything if its sitting in a hangar under a tarpaulin.

And a fat part of the money spent on arms companies goes straight back to the politicians as lobbying money.
Neat eh?
I  would say 90% of the crap you use right now, was a development from R and D for govt. use.
And did the govt get a return on the investment or did the commercial companies whose research the govt funded take the profit?

Most of the defence industry is like the pyramids - pointless crap to keep people who would otherwise be unemployed busy.
Its also a socialised way of giving US companies a competitive advantage - something they wouldn't otherwise have.
Well since the people IS the govt.  I would say yes, the people got a return for their investment. Case in point, the fact that you and I are on the interet discussing it right now would be a great example. Ever hear of cell phone?

Last edited by lowing (2011-03-27 05:08:20)

lowing
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So anyway, since the topic is "tax payer money down the drain", lets talk about that shall we? Who wants to go next??

Last edited by lowing (2011-03-27 05:10:13)

Dilbert_X
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lowing wrote:

Well since the people IS the govt.  I would say yes, the people got a return for their investment. Case in point, the fact that you and I are on the interet discussing it right now would be a great example.
So you are in favour of socialised tax-n-spend by the government after all.
Fuck Israel
lowing
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Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

Well since the people IS the govt.  I would say yes, the people got a return for their investment. Case in point, the fact that you and I are on the interet discussing it right now would be a great example.
So you are in favour of socialised tax-n-spend by the government after all.
yes for functions of govt. and defense is a function of govt. "spreading the wealth", is not.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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Paying companies to develop technology the govt doesn't really need because the companies bribed politicians to vote them funding - Is that a function of government?

Seems more like spreading the wealth to me, except the average person is taxed to help the rich get richer.
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Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
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Both are actually valid spending.

Just because the outcome wasn't as expected from the engine does not mean it was a waste, I'm sure progress has been made and if GE are willing to back the project that further proves that there is a positive to be found in it all.

re: welfare, the vast majority of people on welfare spend all their money before their next pay, thus that money is basically going straight back into the economy via rent, food, schooling etc. and it raises the lowest social tier of a society. Without welfare you'd be a third world country.
lowing
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Paying companies to develop technology the govt doesn't really need because the companies bribed politicians to vote them funding - Is that a function of government?

Seems more like spreading the wealth to me, except the average person is taxed to help the rich get richer.
Never said I approved of lobbyists. and I never said I approved of bribes. If you want to make a topic on the corruption of govt. then start a thread and I will join probably on your side. However, the topic here is wasting taxpayer money, only real issue is, what is more of a waste or abuse? Some say 3 billion to a cancelled project. and I say 702 to welfare. What do you think?
lowing
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Jaekus wrote:

Both are actually valid spending.

Just because the outcome wasn't as expected from the engine does not mean it was a waste, I'm sure progress has been made and if GE are willing to back the project that further proves that there is a positive to be found in it all.

re: welfare, the vast majority of people on welfare spend all their money before their next pay, thus that money is basically going straight back into the economy via rent, food, schooling etc. and it raises the lowest social tier of a society. Without welfare you'd be a third world country.
If that is all it is, then tell you what, let ME keep the money I earn and I will circulate it back through the economy,ya know, since I am the one who did all the leg work for it and all. The economy doesn't care who spends it, so it would not be the deciding factor on turning us into a 3rd world country.
AussieReaper
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lowing what are your thoughts on Keynesian economic theory?
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
lowing
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AussieReaper wrote:

lowing what are your thoughts on Keynesian economic theory?
lol, be right back

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