Then congress is speculating on future use, and appropriating funding towards it, while the military is saying cut it and give us what we need now..?
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i never sent you a karma and eleven aint onlowing wrote:
went to Kmar's karma to make sure my karma made sense and say this
"lol, this topic is about military spending by congress and lowing attempts to change it into a "welfare is for lazy people!!11"
no eleven bravo, this topic is on the outrage of govt. wasting taxpayer money. It takes no imagination at all to connect that topic to the REAL waste of money by govt. at a rate of X25!!
one possibility I would guess.Kmar wrote:
Then congress is speculating on future use, and appropriating funding towards it, while the military is saying cut it and give us what we need now..?
re read, never said YOU sent ME karma11 Bravo wrote:
i never sent you a karma and eleven aint onlowing wrote:
went to Kmar's karma to make sure my karma made sense and saw this
"lol, this topic is about military spending by congress and lowing attempts to change it into a "welfare is for lazy people!!11"
no eleven bravo, this topic is on the outrage of govt. wasting taxpayer money. It takes no imagination at all to connect that topic to the REAL waste of money by govt. at a rate of X25!!
Next guess..lol11 Bravo wrote:
i never sent you a karma and eleven aint onlowing wrote:
went to Kmar's karma to make sure my karma made sense and say this
"lol, this topic is about military spending by congress and lowing attempts to change it into a "welfare is for lazy people!!11"
no eleven bravo, this topic is on the outrage of govt. wasting taxpayer money. It takes no imagination at all to connect that topic to the REAL waste of money by govt. at a rate of X25!!
you re readlowing wrote:
re read, never said YOU sent ME karma11 Bravo wrote:
i never sent you a karma and eleven aint onlowing wrote:
went to Kmar's karma to make sure my karma made sense and saw this
"lol, this topic is about military spending by congress and lowing attempts to change it into a "welfare is for lazy people!!11"
no eleven bravo, this topic is on the outrage of govt. wasting taxpayer money. It takes no imagination at all to connect that topic to the REAL waste of money by govt. at a rate of X25!!
I would say 90% of the crap you use right now, was a development from R and D for govt. use.Dilbert_X wrote:
Until its commercialised and sold at a profit 'technology development' is just socialism for geeks. That its 'still there' doesn't mean anything if its sitting in a hangar under a tarpaulin.
And a fat part of the money spent on arms companies goes straight back to the politicians as lobbying money.
Neat eh?
lol I did, and I never said YOU sent ME any karma.11 Bravo wrote:
you re readlowing wrote:
re read, never said YOU sent ME karma11 Bravo wrote:
i never sent you a karma and eleven aint on
..and eleven aint onlowing wrote:
lol I did, and I never said YOU sent ME any karma.11 Bravo wrote:
you re readlowing wrote:
re read, never said YOU sent ME karma
11, eleven, you both look alike to me. my apologies.11 Bravo wrote:
..and eleven aint onlowing wrote:
lol I did, and I never said YOU sent ME any karma.11 Bravo wrote:
you re read
And did the govt get a return on the investment or did the commercial companies whose research the govt funded take the profit?lowing wrote:
I would say 90% of the crap you use right now, was a development from R and D for govt. use.Dilbert_X wrote:
Until its commercialised and sold at a profit 'technology development' is just socialism for geeks. That its 'still there' doesn't mean anything if its sitting in a hangar under a tarpaulin.
And a fat part of the money spent on arms companies goes straight back to the politicians as lobbying money.
Neat eh?
Well since the people IS the govt. I would say yes, the people got a return for their investment. Case in point, the fact that you and I are on the interet discussing it right now would be a great example. Ever hear of cell phone?Dilbert_X wrote:
And did the govt get a return on the investment or did the commercial companies whose research the govt funded take the profit?lowing wrote:
I would say 90% of the crap you use right now, was a development from R and D for govt. use.Dilbert_X wrote:
Until its commercialised and sold at a profit 'technology development' is just socialism for geeks. That its 'still there' doesn't mean anything if its sitting in a hangar under a tarpaulin.
And a fat part of the money spent on arms companies goes straight back to the politicians as lobbying money.
Neat eh?
Most of the defence industry is like the pyramids - pointless crap to keep people who would otherwise be unemployed busy.
Its also a socialised way of giving US companies a competitive advantage - something they wouldn't otherwise have.
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So you are in favour of socialised tax-n-spend by the government after all.lowing wrote:
Well since the people IS the govt. I would say yes, the people got a return for their investment. Case in point, the fact that you and I are on the interet discussing it right now would be a great example.
yes for functions of govt. and defense is a function of govt. "spreading the wealth", is not.Dilbert_X wrote:
So you are in favour of socialised tax-n-spend by the government after all.lowing wrote:
Well since the people IS the govt. I would say yes, the people got a return for their investment. Case in point, the fact that you and I are on the interet discussing it right now would be a great example.
Never said I approved of lobbyists. and I never said I approved of bribes. If you want to make a topic on the corruption of govt. then start a thread and I will join probably on your side. However, the topic here is wasting taxpayer money, only real issue is, what is more of a waste or abuse? Some say 3 billion to a cancelled project. and I say 702 to welfare. What do you think?Dilbert_X wrote:
Paying companies to develop technology the govt doesn't really need because the companies bribed politicians to vote them funding - Is that a function of government?
Seems more like spreading the wealth to me, except the average person is taxed to help the rich get richer.
If that is all it is, then tell you what, let ME keep the money I earn and I will circulate it back through the economy,ya know, since I am the one who did all the leg work for it and all. The economy doesn't care who spends it, so it would not be the deciding factor on turning us into a 3rd world country.Jaekus wrote:
Both are actually valid spending.
Just because the outcome wasn't as expected from the engine does not mean it was a waste, I'm sure progress has been made and if GE are willing to back the project that further proves that there is a positive to be found in it all.
re: welfare, the vast majority of people on welfare spend all their money before their next pay, thus that money is basically going straight back into the economy via rent, food, schooling etc. and it raises the lowest social tier of a society. Without welfare you'd be a third world country.
lol, be right backAussieReaper wrote:
lowing what are your thoughts on Keynesian economic theory?