BF2S Forums The Situation in Libya

Shocking wrote:

BALTINS wrote:

Weird isn't it, for the first time in centuries is Europe war free for such a long time.

If you look at the history it does seem very strange, before WW1&2 came about every decade there would always be some countries kicking eachother's teeth in. It was the 'war to end all wars' on the continent so to speak, so massive it changed everything.

I think that has less to do with being all friendly and stuff and more to do with having the looming threat of USSR vs USA on the plains of Europe for so many decades. Guess we'll see going forward. As long as you keep nationalists like le pen in line you should be A-OK

Macbeth wrote:

You kinda forgot the Cold War in that analysis. Sure you guys never did anything but everything west of Germany was ready to kill everything east of Germany for 50 years.

Son, I know you ain't talkin' to me.

Jay wrote:

I think that has less to do with being all friendly and stuff and more to do with having the looming threat of USSR vs USA on the plains of Europe for so many decades. Guess we'll see going forward. As long as you keep nationalists like le pen in line you should be A-OK

Being stuck inbetween two superpowers definitely helped in shaping the mindset that's around today, yeah. Suddenly it wasn't all about Europe anymore, either - quite a lot of wake up calls in a short time I'd say.

His type of nationalist, I feel, are actually very dangerous. Their prime objective seems to be destroy all the progress that's been made in the past 70 years, on top of that they're getting an awful lot of votes due to the incompetence of most of the ruling parties . Most of these parties just pass themselves off as being single-issue, any debate with the leading figure will always be diverted towards immigration and integration, which they use to pull in voters.

Good thing these parties are usually staffed by people who have no experience and are generally incompetent, having them end up as the majority in parlement does a good job at showing that, so, thankfully they're self destructive.

Still annoying.

Last edited by Shocking (2011-03-24 18:25:32)

eleven bravo wrote:

http://forums.bf2s.com/sphinx.php?q=sorry+you+feel+that+way&author=lowing&srin=0&sort=1&show=1&frmt=0&search=Submit

Fuck you, now I don't feel special.

Standard response to insults and accusations...Can't control how ya feel, and can't be bothered to try so all I can do is feel sorry ya feel that way. I hope my genuine concern for my popularity here shows

Last edited by lowing (2011-03-24 18:40:41)

You won't get it because there is none

Dilbert_X wrote:

As I said already, if you're enforcing a ceasefire, or a safe-zone, wouldn't it be a good idea to take out all the tanks and artillery?  Good idea for them to be taking potshots at you?

This logic only applies to air wars apparently.

Your logic is infallible, Dilbert.

Until you apply it to the real world.

Let's do that, shall we?

Don't touch the air defenses, radars, or C2. Put up your Tornados, Typhoons, Rafales, etc. within the threat range of those SA-5s, SA-6s, SA-8s, and the like. They've got their ATC and long-range civilian radars linked in to their military air defenses (radar's radar, right?). The fighters' RWR keeps going off, but they can't do anything, because Dilbert said it would be stupid to respond. Suddenly, there's telephone poles with rocket motors on one end and explosives on the other end heading their way, cued by the radars that have been painting them right and left. Too late to do anything...they're totally defensive, and dead shortly. Because it's "stupid" to do anything about the threats.

Sure...you can respond later. Once you generate the additional sorties and figure out how to replace the planes and aircrew you just lost because of your brilliant planning.

You get to write all the letters and explain to the public why you told them to do nothing.

Fucking brilliant.

11 Bravo wrote:

BALTINS wrote:

There are videos of Libyan soldiers being executed (for not following orders to kill protesters).

do share

http://www.maltastar.com/pages/r1/ms10dart.asp?a=14347
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Wot4bl0b5c

i guess being executed was the wrong wording.

11 Bravo wrote:

BALTINS wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

do share

http://www.maltastar.com/pages/r1/ms10dart.asp?a=14347
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Wot4bl0b5c

i guess being executed was the wrong wording.

thats not proof at all.  sorry but please verify that vid.

there are a bunch of videos on youtube about snipers,police so on shooting at protesters, it's just too vague as proof really. I guess the proof will come out afterwards depending on the outcome of the whole mess.

BALTINS wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

BALTINS wrote:

http://www.maltastar.com/pages/r1/ms10dart.asp?a=14347
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Wot4bl0b5c

i guess being executed was the wrong wording.

thats not proof at all.  sorry but please verify that vid.

there are a bunch of videos on youtube about snipers,police so on shooting at protesters, it's just too vague as proof really. I guess the proof will come out afterwards depending on the outcome of the whole mess.

seen them.  aint proof.

at this point it's too late for proof anyways, sides have been taken. all thats left is whether the opposition leaders are worth a damn.

lowing wrote:

Standard response to insults and accusations...Can't control how ya feel, and can't be bothered to try so all I can do is feel sorry ya feel that way. I hope my genuine concern for my popularity here shows

sorry you feel that way, lowing

eleven bravo wrote:

lowing wrote:

Standard response to insults and accusations...Can't control how ya feel, and can't be bothered to try so all I can do is feel sorry ya feel that way. I hope my genuine concern for my popularity here shows

sorry you feel that way, lowing

Neh, no worries.