That's interesting you say that, because I was doing flyes for months until my shoulders started hurting. So I don't do them any more.
i dunno zimm...i get a better burn with db's
Possibly. Although I've watched countless videos, read several books, asked people in the gym etc. They all told me my technique is fine..
Did 130KG x 5 Deadlift last week.
Attempted 132KG today, but only got to 4 reps. Meh
Did 130KG x 5 Deadlift last week.
Attempted 132KG today, but only got to 4 reps. Meh
Woah, I was wondering where this thread went!
In my experience training incline is most certainly more difficult than a flat bench and will develop your upper chest and that nice pectoral sweep from the chest to shoulders. Its a great exercise, just make sure that on the lift to bring the weights down all the way to just about shoulder level and then press up. Your elbows should be below parallel when you begin your drive upwards, one thing I also like to do is start with the weights perpendicular to your body and as you reach the apex slowly begin turning the weights to a parallel position to your body. This will allow a tighter squeeze of the chest at the apex and also bring your triceps into the lift a little more.
Marine, sometimes its easier to squeeze the pectorals at the apex of the lift with dumbells as oppsed to a barbell lift. I think this is mostly due to the individual balancing of the dumbell compared to the linear balancing of a barbell.11 Bravo wrote:
i dunno zimm...i get a better burn with db's
In my experience training incline is most certainly more difficult than a flat bench and will develop your upper chest and that nice pectoral sweep from the chest to shoulders. Its a great exercise, just make sure that on the lift to bring the weights down all the way to just about shoulder level and then press up. Your elbows should be below parallel when you begin your drive upwards, one thing I also like to do is start with the weights perpendicular to your body and as you reach the apex slowly begin turning the weights to a parallel position to your body. This will allow a tighter squeeze of the chest at the apex and also bring your triceps into the lift a little more.
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it moved like a month or more ago. put down the weed, hommieSonderKommando wrote:
Woah, I was wondering where this thread went!
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Wow, Sonder, finally you dropped in!
What's up buddy?
What's up buddy?
I couldnt find the tread. Thought it just died.Jebus wrote:
Wow, Sonder, finally you dropped in!
What's up buddy?
Nothing much.... just rocking operation swol upper body. I destroyed my left foot in a football game... no squatting or DL for awhile. Its almost healed up though.
below parallel.....thats interesting. i will make sure i do that. not sure if i do or dont right now tbhSonderKommando wrote:
Woah, I was wondering where this thread went!Marine, sometimes its easier to squeeze the pectorals at the apex of the lift with dumbells as oppsed to a barbell lift. I think this is mostly due to the individual balancing of the dumbell compared to the linear balancing of a barbell.11 Bravo wrote:
i dunno zimm...i get a better burn with db's
In my experience training incline is most certainly more difficult than a flat bench and will develop your upper chest and that nice pectoral sweep from the chest to shoulders. Its a great exercise, just make sure that on the lift to bring the weights down all the way to just about shoulder level and then press up. Your elbows should be below parallel when you begin your drive upwards, one thing I also like to do is start with the weights perpendicular to your body and as you reach the apex slowly begin turning the weights to a parallel position to your body. This will allow a tighter squeeze of the chest at the apex and also bring your triceps into the lift a little more.
It just seems to give your chest muscles a nice stretch and they have to work harder to get back above parallel. You'll see alot of guys do incline presses and barely bring the dumbells down to forehead level. All the body builders I have trained with have taught me to go below parallel.11 Bravo wrote:
below parallel.....thats interesting. i will make sure i do that. not sure if i do or dont right now tbhSonderKommando wrote:
Woah, I was wondering where this thread went!Marine, sometimes its easier to squeeze the pectorals at the apex of the lift with dumbells as oppsed to a barbell lift. I think this is mostly due to the individual balancing of the dumbell compared to the linear balancing of a barbell.11 Bravo wrote:
i dunno zimm...i get a better burn with db's
In my experience training incline is most certainly more difficult than a flat bench and will develop your upper chest and that nice pectoral sweep from the chest to shoulders. Its a great exercise, just make sure that on the lift to bring the weights down all the way to just about shoulder level and then press up. Your elbows should be below parallel when you begin your drive upwards, one thing I also like to do is start with the weights perpendicular to your body and as you reach the apex slowly begin turning the weights to a parallel position to your body. This will allow a tighter squeeze of the chest at the apex and also bring your triceps into the lift a little more.
see how his elbows are slightly below parallel to his body, thats good form.
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what about flys? incline? flat? or both?
Im with Zimm, flies are a great exercise, but you need to be careful. Its easy to use too much weight and use improper form, and you can easily hurt yourself doing them. generally I will do flies towards the end of a chest day when my im already fatigued to get a good final pump in my chest. Ill do a light weight with three sets of 12 reps. I rarely use more than 30lb dumbells on flies to ensure good form and controlled reps.11 Bravo wrote:
what about flys? incline? flat? or both?
I usually alternate weekly between flat and incline flies BTW. But I ALWAYS do at least one incline workout be it barbell or dumbbell.
sooo, yea... operation swoll upper body is in effect
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so what is proper fly form?
Never extend past your back (your arms should always be slightly bent inwards, but your upper arms should be horizontal to your back and NO MORE).11 Bravo wrote:
so what is proper fly form?
Always do the motion slowly, no power until you hit the middle. Never touch dumbbells.
Rotate shoulders so elbows are pointing outwards before beginning the motion. Keep shoulders at shoulder height.
shit i touch the db's all the time. why not touch them?
Holy damn Sonder, nice work!
As do I. I have for 20 years. ... a slow controlled motion is the key.11 Bravo wrote:
shit i touch the db's all the time. why not touch them?
Xbone Stormsurgezz
I think the key here is not to slam them or anything like that. Some sort of idea for bench press when you 'don't let the bar touch your chest'. If it does in a slow and controlled manner you're fine just don't bounce the bar off your chest or you're going to face problems later. Same for fly's, if you gently tap them I doubt there's going to be much of a problem.11 Bravo wrote:
shit i touch the db's all the time. why not touch them?
You can do it, but it won't work out your muscles as well. This is due to the forces automatically pulling your arms in after a certain point, so touching them feels more natural. Try not touching them and you'll see how much harder it is without as much motion involved in your shoulder movements.11 Bravo wrote:
shit i touch the db's all the time. why not touch them?
Finally getting some definition in my legs (quads, not calves)
When I was doing flyes I'd bring them up 3/4 of the way, so about a foot or more distance apart. Made it harder.Zimmer wrote:
You can do it, but it won't work out your muscles as well. This is due to the forces automatically pulling your arms in after a certain point, so touching them feels more natural. Try not touching them and you'll see how much harder it is without as much motion involved in your shoulder movements.11 Bravo wrote:
shit i touch the db's all the time. why not touch them?
I think I was hurting my shoulders in part because I was bringing them too low. I guess I felt the lower I brought the DBs down the more it was working my chest.
I hope I can get my training session in tomorrow. Have to get up at 4 am. to prepare a prom I'm helping organize. Will be finished in the afternoon, so I hope I'll still have enough time for gym + short nap then so I don't end up crashing down at the prom that night..
I'm waiting for my new gym equipment to arrive. The order says: Scheduled for planning. So i guess they'll call me on when to deliver it etc. No working out until then, but I'm not sad about it as my gym got more and more annoying/crowded.
It's great having a home gym, I think the wait will be worth it.
I know this isn't exactly on topic, but this seems like the best place to ask -
Does anyone have any experience with hernias (more specifically a sports hernia)? I went for a run today after "working out" at home (just pull-ups, sit-ups, and push-ups) and had to stop after a few minutes because of a dull pain in my groin. The pain wasn't really that bad, but I thought it would be better to play it safe than risk actual injury.
I'm not sure if it is a hernia. I just don't know what else it would be. I did a little research online but it wasn't all that helpful.
Thanks
Does anyone have any experience with hernias (more specifically a sports hernia)? I went for a run today after "working out" at home (just pull-ups, sit-ups, and push-ups) and had to stop after a few minutes because of a dull pain in my groin. The pain wasn't really that bad, but I thought it would be better to play it safe than risk actual injury.
I'm not sure if it is a hernia. I just don't know what else it would be. I did a little research online but it wasn't all that helpful.
Thanks
I sure hope so.Jaekus wrote:
It's great having a home gym, I think the wait will be worth it.
I figured it out now: They'll call me within four days to see when they can deliver it. They do this because they can't send something this heavy with the regular mailing-service (which would deliver in two workdays) and they need you to be home as they can't really drop this shit off at a neighbour or the post office.
So I'm still waiting for that phone call, it should be today, tomorrow or monday if they don't call in weekends.