One shot kill Stingers or Rockets aren't needed. As was noted already, just don't bring back flyby repairs, supply drop repairs, and engineer convoy repairs. Require someone to be outside like BC2.
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I never played BC2. How did helicopter/jet repairs and reload work? I guess it's easy enough for choppers to land, but for planes it is more difficult. I would think you should be able to at least fly-by rearm.Ilocano wrote:
One shot kill Stingers or Rockets aren't needed. As was noted already, just don't bring back flyby repairs, supply drop repairs, and engineer convoy repairs. Require someone to be outside like BC2.
No engineer convoy? Damn... why not if you don't mind the asking?
Same as old bf2 with the helipad pretty much. Although engineer could repair it as normal.
Jets should never have flyby rearm or repair, there are methods of making landing a jet easier. Perhaps maybe a launch parachute button to slow the jet down when landing.
Jets should never have flyby rearm or repair, there are methods of making landing a jet easier. Perhaps maybe a launch parachute button to slow the jet down when landing.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Helicopter and vehicle repairs occurred by getting out and using the wrench. No more magic repairs or magic heals or magic ammo replacement.Buckiller wrote:
I never played BC2. How did helicopter/jet repairs and reload work? I guess it's easy enough for choppers to land, but for planes it is more difficult. I would think you should be able to at least fly-by rearm.Ilocano wrote:
One shot kill Stingers or Rockets aren't needed. As was noted already, just don't bring back flyby repairs, supply drop repairs, and engineer convoy repairs. Require someone to be outside like BC2.
No engineer convoy? Damn... why not if you don't mind the asking?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
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Yeah, ammo. Will BF3 have finite vehicle ammo like BF2?
I hated running out of TOW ammo.
I hated running out of TOW ammo.
I would assume so. The infinite ammo system is goofy, but I feel the same for "replacing" any ammo of vehicles. Returning to a helipad seemed fine to me, but chucking ammo packs at a dude in a chopper is wonky. I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that BF3 isn't including a commander so I can't be sure what's going to happen.Ilocano wrote:
Yeah, ammo. Will BF3 have finite vehicle ammo like BF2?
I hated running out of TOW ammo.
no you aren't, you're only connected to the server. everyone sends information to the server, and then the server sends the information back to everyone else. that's why it doesn't matter if people on the server have high pings, and servers who employed the high ping kick to try to keep the server lag free were retardedJohnG@lt wrote:
And you're not just pinging your target, you're pinging everything else visible on the screen as well. The game is keeping just as accurate track of your teammates, vehicles, other opponents as it is the guy you're aiming at. Because you have so many people pinging each other, one guy with a shit ping will raise everyone elses server response time.
inb4killstreaksupplydrops... holy shit. that would suckJohnG@lt wrote:
Helicopter and vehicle repairs occurred by getting out and using the wrench. No more magic repairs or magic heals or magic ammo replacement.Buckiller wrote:
I never played BC2. How did helicopter/jet repairs and reload work? I guess it's easy enough for choppers to land, but for planes it is more difficult. I would think you should be able to at least fly-by rearm.Ilocano wrote:
One shot kill Stingers or Rockets aren't needed. As was noted already, just don't bring back flyby repairs, supply drop repairs, and engineer convoy repairs. Require someone to be outside like BC2.
No engineer convoy? Damn... why not if you don't mind the asking?
anyways nah g@lt you could repair choppers from the inside like in BF2 if you were a passenger
Yeah, G@lt, that's total bullshit, sorry.HaiBai wrote:
no you aren't, you're only connected to the server. everyone sends information to the server, and then the server sends the information back to everyone else. that's why it doesn't matter if people on the server have high pings, and servers who employed the high ping kick to try to keep the server lag free were retardedJohnG@lt wrote:
And you're not just pinging your target, you're pinging everything else visible on the screen as well. The game is keeping just as accurate track of your teammates, vehicles, other opponents as it is the guy you're aiming at. Because you have so many people pinging each other, one guy with a shit ping will raise everyone elses server response time.
E:@HaiBai, high ping kicks were for people who lagged all over the screen, they actually make it harder for you to hit them.
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yeah i know that, but there were a lot of server admins who had the same belief as galt, that high pingers directly make your ping higher.Finray wrote:
Yeah, G@lt, that's total bullshit, sorry.HaiBai wrote:
no you aren't, you're only connected to the server. everyone sends information to the server, and then the server sends the information back to everyone else. that's why it doesn't matter if people on the server have high pings, and servers who employed the high ping kick to try to keep the server lag free were retardedJohnG@lt wrote:
And you're not just pinging your target, you're pinging everything else visible on the screen as well. The game is keeping just as accurate track of your teammates, vehicles, other opponents as it is the guy you're aiming at. Because you have so many people pinging each other, one guy with a shit ping will raise everyone elses server response time.
E:@HaiBai, high ping kicks were for people who lagged all over the screen, they actually make it harder for you to hit them.
Transports, yes. Attack ones, no. BC2 style repair makes sense.Trotskygrad wrote:
inb4killstreaksupplydrops... holy shit. that would suckJohnG@lt wrote:
Helicopter and vehicle repairs occurred by getting out and using the wrench. No more magic repairs or magic heals or magic ammo replacement.Buckiller wrote:
I never played BC2. How did helicopter/jet repairs and reload work? I guess it's easy enough for choppers to land, but for planes it is more difficult. I would think you should be able to at least fly-by rearm.
No engineer convoy? Damn... why not if you don't mind the asking?
anyways nah g@lt you could repair choppers from the inside like in BF2 if you were a passenger
All I can say is that if vehicles (specifically air vehicles) are nerfed, BF3 is going to suck.
Umm, unnerfed air vehicles made BF2 kind of suck.Laika wrote:
All I can say is that if vehicles (specifically air vehicles) are nerfed, BF3 is going to suck.
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Maybe PR could make some use out of that, that mod would be awsome with even just 128 people.Roc18 wrote:
DICE: Battlefield 3 could support 256-player online matches
http://www.connectedconsoles.com/ps3/di … ches/3187/
What do you mean unnerfed air vehicles? You mean BF2 as a whole how it has always been?JohnG@lt wrote:
Umm, unnerfed air vehicles made BF2 kind of suck.Laika wrote:
All I can say is that if vehicles (specifically air vehicles) are nerfed, BF3 is going to suck.
Have you even read anything at all about this game?iceman785 wrote:
Maybe PR could make some use out of that, that mod would be awsome with even just 128 people.Roc18 wrote:
DICE: Battlefield 3 could support 256-player online matches
http://www.connectedconsoles.com/ps3/di … ches/3187/
I think that's the second time he's mentioned PR making a mod.Jaekus wrote:
Have you even read anything at all about this game?iceman785 wrote:
Maybe PR could make some use out of that, that mod would be awsome with even just 128 people.Roc18 wrote:
DICE: Battlefield 3 could support 256-player online matches
http://www.connectedconsoles.com/ps3/di … ches/3187/
Yes, and that's the second time I've answered the question. And the second time you posted after I asked the question...
Ooooh, deja vu!
Ooooh, deja vu!
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As long as there is no realistic counter against air vehicles, i.e. mobile AA (Stinger missiles) for infantry or mounted on fast vehicles (and not on slow tanks), air vehicles will ALWAYS dominate the game.
The devs can add whatever restrictive things they want, but players will quickly find out the best ways to play and rape everything else.
The devs can add whatever restrictive things they want, but players will quickly find out the best ways to play and rape everything else.
Of course, that's how it should be. Air vehicles at the top of the food chain.
What's the point in having a jet on your team if some nob on the enemy team can select a class with stinger and take you down with little effort?
Vehicles make the bf series.
What's the point in having a jet on your team if some nob on the enemy team can select a class with stinger and take you down with little effort?
Vehicles make the bf series.
Jets don't get bombs.
/argument.
/argument.
So will bf2s be renamed to bf3s and focus on the game to haul in some new members?
inane little opines
lol crybabies
give AA stations short range then make them very effective. That way they're a deterrent to jets: if someone gets in range to bomb they die, if they fly off they survive. So, you can't freely go around bombing shit, but you don't get shot down by ADD kiddies who can't play the game either.
give AA stations short range then make them very effective. That way they're a deterrent to jets: if someone gets in range to bomb they die, if they fly off they survive. So, you can't freely go around bombing shit, but you don't get shot down by ADD kiddies who can't play the game either.
Perhaps in RL ... but not in a game that seeks to balance game play.jord wrote:
Of course, that's how it should be. Air vehicles at the top of the food chain.
The only balance should be the balance of the 2 teams. if you're lucky enough to get a jet/heli/tank you shouldn't be on par with 1 infantryman, that's stupid.OrangeHound wrote:
Perhaps in RL ... but not in a game that seeks to balance game play.jord wrote:
Of course, that's how it should be. Air vehicles at the top of the food chain.
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