i find it funny when non-americans care more about trivial american tabloid junk than americans. is australlia really that boring?
dilbert's a champion of human rights. And that includes the human right to get your dick wet before you're married. No institution public or private shall infringe on this most basic of rights.
Yep. I mean, I think it's pretty ridiculous... but it IS a private school. Something along the lines of this happened at BC a couple years ago.FEOS wrote:
It's a private school. They can do what they want.
We get it. It involves religion. You don't like religion. So you stir the pot. So not predictable at all.
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regio … position=1
You choose to go to this school. Nobody forces you. It is a private, catholic school (or in the OP's case, a mormon school). Sorry if you don't like it, but you can suck it up or go to a different school.Some Boston College professors and students are raising a holy ruckus over the Catholic school’s return to its religious roots by hanging crucifixes in all its classrooms, calling the move “offensive” and a break from the Jesuit tradition of tolerance.
Yah, so the guy signed away his right to bang mormons and failed. Tough luck kid.
I was just interested to see how readily some people would give up freedoms most of us assume are non-negotiable.13/f/taiwan wrote:
i find it funny when non-americans care more about trivial american tabloid junk than americans. is australlia really that boring?
How would it be if he had to agree not to own a firearm, or vote, for the duration of his college course?
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Last I heard pre-marital sex was not a constitutional right, whereas owning a firearm is.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
fixed.13/f/taiwan wrote:
i find it funny when non-americans dilbert care more about trivial american tabloid junk than americans. is australlia dilberts life really that boring?
The constitution doesn't specifically say people have a right to breathe air or look up at the sky.
If its not a specific crime then its a basic freedom I would have thought.
If its not a specific crime then its a basic freedom I would have thought.
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So if someone signs a Non Disclosure Agreement and tells the world everything confidential they know they can't be fired or sued since they have freedom of speech? Also I am free to drink all the alcohol I want, but if I show up at work drunk guess how long I have a job.Dilbert_X wrote:
The constitution doesn't specifically say people have a right to breathe air or look up at the sky.
If its not a specific crime then its a basic freedom I would have thought.
so many hole in that opinion I don't know where to beginDilbert_X wrote:
The constitution doesn't specifically say people have a right to breathe air or look up at the sky.
If its not a specific crime then its a basic freedom I would have thought.
Again, this isn't work related, doesn't relate to conduct at a work site, during work hours or which affects the employer in any way.jaymz9350 wrote:
So if someone signs a Non Disclosure Agreement and tells the world everything confidential they know they can't be fired or sued since they have freedom of speech? Also I am free to drink all the alcohol I want, but if I show up at work drunk guess how long I have a job.Dilbert_X wrote:
The constitution doesn't specifically say people have a right to breathe air or look up at the sky.
If its not a specific crime then its a basic freedom I would have thought.
It relates to a University, conduct outside the University, outside study time and which affects the University not at all.
Also, again, the student is paying the university for a service, not being paid for providing a service.
Maybe its just you're using a different definition of freedom.lowing wrote:
so many hole in that opinion I don't know where to begin
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Constitutional rights are limited dilbert. If you're so interested in the Constitution and our legal system go take a Constitutional Law or American Legal System classes.
Considering that firearms are banned on every single campus across the entire nation...Dilbert_X wrote:
I was just interested to see how readily some people would give up freedoms most of us assume are non-negotiable.13/f/taiwan wrote:
i find it funny when non-americans care more about trivial american tabloid junk than americans. is australlia really that boring?
How would it be if he had to agree not to own a firearm, or vote, for the duration of his college course?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
There's that. And not everyone on a college campus can vote. But besides that, Dilbert's theory is rock-solid.JohnG@lt wrote:
Considering that firearms are banned on every single campus across the entire nation...Dilbert_X wrote:
I was just interested to see how readily some people would give up freedoms most of us assume are non-negotiable.13/f/taiwan wrote:
i find it funny when non-americans care more about trivial american tabloid junk than americans. is australlia really that boring?
How would it be if he had to agree not to own a firearm, or vote, for the duration of his college course?
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Frankly, I think it's pretty commendable of the university to hold their athletes to the same standards as everyone else. Any other school would have kicked out a regular student, but turned a blind eye to someone on a sports team doing it.
Having said that, I'm amazed BYU get any decent athletes there at all given their policies.
Having said that, I'm amazed BYU get any decent athletes there at all given their policies.
BYU is pretty fucking awful at sports. They did graduate this chap though:ghettoperson wrote:
Frankly, I think it's pretty commendable of the university to hold their athletes to the same standards as everyone else. Any other school would have kicked out a regular student, but turned a blind eye to someone on a sports team doing it.
Having said that, I'm amazed BYU get any decent athletes there at all given their policies.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Freedom includes the choice to set aside freedom voluntarily.Dilbert_X wrote:
Maybe its just you're using a different definition of freedom.
Oh, right.Stingray24 wrote:
Freedom includes the choice to set aside freedom voluntarily.Dilbert_X wrote:
Maybe its just you're using a different definition of freedom.
ghettoperson wrote:
Having said that, I'm amazed BYU get any decent athletes there at all given their policies.
I said own, not bring onto campus, try to keep up.JohnG@lt wrote:
Considering that firearms are banned on every single campus across the entire nation...Dilbert_X wrote:
I was just interested to see how readily some people would give up freedoms most of us assume are non-negotiable.13/f/taiwan wrote:
i find it funny when non-americans care more about trivial american tabloid junk than americans. is australlia really that boring?
How would it be if he had to agree not to own a firearm, or vote, for the duration of his college course?
Fuck Israel
This is the point I'm making, and where I see the problem.Stingray24 wrote:
Freedom includes the choice to set aside freedom voluntarily.Dilbert_X wrote:
Maybe its just you're using a different definition of freedom.
Its not really entirely 'voluntary' is it really?
Where do you draw the line?
I realise its a 'commercial' organisation, but then isn't it tax exempt and therefore effectively get a govt subsidy?
Its a slippery slope and I'm surprised no-one is bothered.
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it's not a "'commercial' organisation", it's a private institution. it is tax exempt.Dilbert_X wrote:
Its not really entirely 'voluntary' is it really?
Where do you draw the line?
I realise its a 'commercial' organisation, but then isn't it tax exempt and therefore effectively get a govt subsidy?
Its a slippery slope and I'm surprised no-one is bothered.
going to such a school is a privilege, not a right. you have to be accepted. at byu they also have an honor code, which each and every student signs, along with their application.
you are showing the willfulness of a troll, to be told this over and over, yet belabor the point.
Good day, sir.
burnzz is spot on. We'll go ahead and close this (again--my apologies for thinking this might become something positive). Maybe that will give Dilbert time to read everything here and learn a bit.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Think what Dilbert is referring to is how the student have signed away a part of his freedom and he questions if it is okay or not to be expelled for that very reason ...
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Hey! Quit posting in a closed topic!
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular