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What should Battlefield 3 be more like?

Battlefield 293%93% - 93
Bad Company 27%7% - 7
Total: 100
2011-02-18 19:29:04
War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+563|6929|Purplicious Wisconsin

-Sh1fty- wrote:

It wasn't epic enough in BC2. I think it would be a lot cooler if you know you're fucked in a vehicle when it's burning or spinning out of control. To do this just don't let them bail out

Would be epic watching the crash from inside the cockpit.
I like c4 jeeps, makes it fun. Although last time I played BC2 I had tons of fun doing C4 UAV with a online friend of mine. It's hilarious doing that

In BC1 they didn't have parachutes so if your chopper was shot down and you were a pretty high in the sky you were fucked, you could bail out but you most likely didn't survive unless you got lucky.

Last edited by War Man (2011-02-18 19:29:54)

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
2011-02-19 04:23:14
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|6897|Disaster Free Zone

jord wrote:

A tank that when hit once or twice retreats around the corner, fixes, then comes back and knows pretty much where you're going to pop out from?

Nah
2 hits to the front or rear of the tracks or the rear of the tank will kill it outright, no going behind walls, no repairing. Just dead. And when you kill them they stay dead, unlike infantry, and to repair them takes more then running over a bag lying on the ground.

jord wrote:

DUnlimited wrote:

it would make tanks really fucking useless if any random hit to the tracks would disable it.
Not disable but damage. Slow it down, etc.

Specific areas being damaged and then having an effect relative to that area makes sense, moreso that some arbitrary health bar with the vehicle performing the same at full health as it does at 5% health. Other examples are shooting a cars tires out, or damaging a helicopter tail rotor.
Should infantry run slower when hit in the leg? Should their aim be sacrificed if hurt? Should you slowly die if shot in the chest as your lungs fill with blood?
2011-02-19 04:27:22
Ultrafunkula
Hector: Ding, ding, ding, ding...
+1,975|6689|6 6 4 oh, I forget

DrunkFace wrote:

jord wrote:

A tank that when hit once or twice retreats around the corner, fixes, then comes back and knows pretty much where you're going to pop out from?

Nah
2 hits to the front or rear of the tracks or the rear of the tank will kill it outright, no going behind walls, no repairing. Just dead. And when you kill them they stay dead, unlike infantry, and to repair them takes more then running over a bag lying on the ground.

jord wrote:

DUnlimited wrote:

it would make tanks really fucking useless if any random hit to the tracks would disable it.
Not disable but damage. Slow it down, etc.

Specific areas being damaged and then having an effect relative to that area makes sense, moreso that some arbitrary health bar with the vehicle performing the same at full health as it does at 5% health. Other examples are shooting a cars tires out, or damaging a helicopter tail rotor.
Should infantry run slower when hit in the leg? Should their aim be sacrificed if hurt? Should you slowly die if shot in the chest as your lungs fill with blood?
These features could be added to a HC mode atleast to see what gamers think of them.
2011-02-19 06:32:06
jord
Member
+2,382|6894|The North, beyond the wall.

DrunkFace wrote:

jord wrote:

A tank that when hit once or twice retreats around the corner, fixes, then comes back and knows pretty much where you're going to pop out from?

Nah
2 hits to the front or rear of the tracks or the rear of the tank will kill it outright, no going behind walls, no repairing. Just dead. And when you kill them they stay dead, unlike infantry, and to repair them takes more then running over a bag lying on the ground.

jord wrote:

DUnlimited wrote:

it would make tanks really fucking useless if any random hit to the tracks would disable it.
Not disable but damage. Slow it down, etc.

Specific areas being damaged and then having an effect relative to that area makes sense, moreso that some arbitrary health bar with the vehicle performing the same at full health as it does at 5% health. Other examples are shooting a cars tires out, or damaging a helicopter tail rotor.
Should infantry run slower when hit in the leg? Should their aim be sacrificed if hurt? Should you slowly die if shot in the chest as your lungs fill with blood?
Why not? Adding new features is sure better than sending out the same game with better graphics, less kits and new maps. It could be tried, though I think just the vehicle one will suffice.
2011-02-19 06:34:55
jord
Member
+2,382|6894|The North, beyond the wall.
Oh and lets move on from these tiresome hypotheticals, if it were so easy to take out armour on non air maps tank whores wouldn't be dominating the scoreboard on a map like karkand, with little roof access. We can go over 1000 scenarios, but lets get back on topic.
2011-02-20 03:58:08
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|6897|Disaster Free Zone
But they just don't.
2011-02-20 06:16:49
jord
Member
+2,382|6894|The North, beyond the wall.
So on a vehicle enabled server on the map Karkand a competent tank whore isn't going to come in the top 5 players of 40 most of the time?
2011-02-20 06:52:29
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6987|PNW

Tanks are a hard counter to infantry. Coordinate your AT efforts or perish.
2011-02-20 06:57:01
jord
Member
+2,382|6894|The North, beyond the wall.
The only problems I encounted using a tank on Karkand was

A) Someone on the other team that instead of doing a c4 car did a c4 APC.
B) Enemy armour.
2011-02-20 06:59:48
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|6897|Disaster Free Zone

jord wrote:

So on a vehicle enabled server on the map Karkand a competent tank whore isn't going to come in the top 5 players of 40 most of the time?
Against a competent opposition, no.
2011-02-20 07:01:18
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5453|Cleveland, Ohio
bc2
2011-02-20 07:03:41
jord
Member
+2,382|6894|The North, beyond the wall.

DrunkFace wrote:

jord wrote:

So on a vehicle enabled server on the map Karkand a competent tank whore isn't going to come in the top 5 players of 40 most of the time?
Against a competent opposition, no.
I guess that's a very rare thing then.
2011-02-21 11:00:58
Trotskygrad
бля
+354|6215|Vortex Ring State

DrunkFace wrote:

jord wrote:

A tank that when hit once or twice retreats around the corner, fixes, then comes back and knows pretty much where you're going to pop out from?

Nah
2 hits to the front or rear of the tracks or the rear of the tank will kill it outright, no going behind walls, no repairing. Just dead. And when you kill them they stay dead, unlike infantry, and to repair them takes more then running over a bag lying on the ground.

jord wrote:

DUnlimited wrote:

it would make tanks really fucking useless if any random hit to the tracks would disable it.
Not disable but damage. Slow it down, etc.

Specific areas being damaged and then having an effect relative to that area makes sense, moreso that some arbitrary health bar with the vehicle performing the same at full health as it does at 5% health. Other examples are shooting a cars tires out, or damaging a helicopter tail rotor.
Should infantry run slower when hit in the leg? Should their aim be sacrificed if hurt? Should you slowly die if shot in the chest as your lungs fill with blood?
tbh autorotation would suck...

but about the infantry thing, sure, those effects would apply until you self-bandaged (like Urban Terror) or got a medic to bandage you
2011-02-21 11:11:02
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6987|PNW

jord wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

jord wrote:

So on a vehicle enabled server on the map Karkand a competent tank whore isn't going to come in the top 5 players of 40 most of the time?
Against a competent opposition, no.
I guess that's a very rare thing then.
It's not very rare for a smart tanker to come out on top in a map centered around tanks and infantry. But as such, it's not rare for tanks to take the most abuse from the HUGE variety of AT present, be they mine, C4, rocket, fixed rocket, APC rocket or other tank shots. There's a lot of narrow roads and alleys to duck into for smart infantry who want nothing more than to gank you and your tank over and over again for kills.

Tanks are strong, but not invulnerable.
2011-02-24 06:16:32
Trotskygrad
бля
+354|6215|Vortex Ring State

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

jord wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

Against a competent opposition, no.
I guess that's a very rare thing then.
It's not very rare for a smart tanker to come out on top in a map centered around tanks and infantry. But as such, it's not rare for tanks to take the most abuse from the HUGE variety of AT present, be they mine, C4, rocket, fixed rocket, APC rocket or other tank shots. There's a lot of narrow roads and alleys to duck into for smart infantry who want nothing more than to gank you and your tank over and over again for kills.

Tanks are strong, but not invulnerable.
not to mention all the specops nubs who just want to turn you into a C4 sandwich
2011-03-01 10:43:50
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6987|PNW

I'm actually more wary of tank hunter squads on pub star servers than I am of jihad jeeps. A good tanker can hold three or so of those off, but there's nothing you can do vs a multi-rocket ambush, besides keeping your distance and having a hill to duck behind.

 

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