BF2S Forums Could Extraterrestrial Intelligence Sway Religious Beliefs?

Jaekus wrote:

He does it with all his posts, it's funny to watch.

But really, to the thread title, people will believe what they want to believe. I'm sure if aliens visited us every other week there'd be some tenets found in all the world's holy books indicating this would happen all of a sudden.

in the latest editions, amirite?

i live in a state that was going to bust the dominant, local religion because they excluded black people from leadership positions in their lay priesthood. They would be labeled a "club" and have to pay taxes.

Bingo!  revelation from God, that the "mark of Cain" had been lifted and no longer would people of color be excluded from any leadership positions. i am sure the same would happen if Men in Black were a documentary and not a comedy.

Jaekus wrote:

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

presidentsheep wrote:

Meh, any religious book is a series of stories made to promote morals .

Most not all promote morals,  morals = good thing IMO see below.

presidentsheep wrote:

that encourage group survival.

good thing IMO death extinction = bad

presidentsheep wrote:

which in turn allows the group to spread the stories in the book..

poor or no morals = low group survival rate = extinction. bad thing for race

presidentsheep wrote:

self perpetuating

= proof of success good thing

presidentsheep wrote:

bullshit the lot of it.

survival of race = bullshit ?

Paraphrasing like that is really a no-no on forums, talk about taking stuff waaay out of context.

is shit like this cool, to act like a child all the time with no real constructive input ?

you*re

you edited your post and didn't fix the grammatical errors? jesus wept, do the world a favor and kys . . .

they bitch about grammar and can't capitalize at the start of a sentence or a proper noun ? use crap like kys and meh, what a clown.
ok now watch ...
watch carefully

Meh, any religious book is a series of stories made to promote morals that encourage group survival which in turn allows the group to spread the stories in the book.Self perpetuating bullshit the lot of it.

now watch again...Numbers, Neat huh ? !

1. Meh, any religious book is a series of stories made to promote morals
2. that encourage group survival
3. which in turn allows the group to spread the stories in the book.
4. Self perpetuating
5. bullshit the lot of it.

out of context..how ?

Jaekus wrote:

Also, suggesting books are the reason for the survival of the human species is kinda jumping off the deep end.

I didn't say that He did I agreed that is the purpose and effect of some religions and didn't see a problem with it like he did.

Jaekus wrote:

Or if you're not suggesting that perhaps just posting something rather than taking other people's posts out of context?

again show me that its out of context

Jaekus wrote:

Am I the only one who doesn't really understand what the fuck you are on about?

Safe place for tuff talk like that any chance that is an accident ?

It's sad that evolution has been around for so long and our population still isn't science-literate enough to understand a very simple concept. One step at a time though, find life first outside Earth, and then concetrate on intelligent beings.

DesertFox- wrote:

It's sad that evolution has been around for so long and our population still isn't science-literate enough to understand a very simple concept. One step at a time though, find life first outside Earth, and then concetrate on intelligent beings.

Fuck Creationism. I don't have a problem with people believing in god or whatever. Doesn't bother me in the slightest. The only group that really irritates me are Creationists.

burnzz wrote:

told ya. she even used numbers. hunter/munter's been swearing like a sailor lately and she calls you out for "tuff talk". apparently, she  doesn't even have a spellchecker!

Apparently not. It's hard to sound intelligent when you can't use correct grammar or punctuation either.

I can't be arsed replying to the ridiculousness above. I started hashing something out but, well, deaf ears and all...

However, my point was paraphrasing people, especially mid-sentence, takes their arguments out of context and allows you to reconstruct them with replies that suit your agenda. You're not sharing points of view, you'e just trying to "win" some forum points. It's bad forum etiquette.

And the other point conveniently glossed over was despite evidence to the contrary, when people firmly believe in things (like religion for example) they will find ways to explain evidence to the contrary. It's a form of psychological survival. It's also a basic human right, despite how much I may disagree with what some people believe.

SenorToenails wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

DesertFox- wrote:

It's sad that evolution has been around for so long and our population still isn't science-literate enough to understand a very simple concept. One step at a time though, find life first outside Earth, and then concetrate on intelligent beings.

Fuck Creationism. I don't have a problem with people believing in god or whatever. Doesn't bother me in the slightest. The only group that really irritates me are Creationists.

When I was in undergrad, there was a young earth creationist getting a BS in plantetary science...how the hell does that work?

So they can say, Creationism is real. I have a BS in planetary science and know what I'm talking about!

Jaekus wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:

When I was in undergrad, there was a young earth creationist getting a BS in plantetary science...how the hell does that work?

To fuck up experiments and thus prove evolution wrong

I call BS

What happens when his experiments prove himself wrong?

God made him do it.

AussieReaper wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Fuck Creationism. I don't have a problem with people believing in god or whatever. Doesn't bother me in the slightest. The only group that really irritates me are Creationists.

When I was in undergrad, there was a young earth creationist getting a BS in plantetary science...how the hell does that work?

So they can say, Creationism is real. I have a BS in planetary science and know what I'm talking about!

It was clear that he was either going to abandon his beliefs or become an apologist...I just don't know which one he ended up doing.  I suspect it was the latter, lol.

HaiBai wrote:

DesertFox- wrote:

It's sad that evolution has been around for so long and our population still isn't science-literate enough to understand a very simple concept. One step at a time though, find life first outside Earth, and then concetrate on intelligent beings.

i hope you realize most catholics believe in religion

trolololol

HaiBai wrote:

DesertFox- wrote:

It's sad that evolution has been around for so long and our population still isn't science-literate enough to understand a very simple concept. One step at a time though, find life first outside Earth, and then concetrate on intelligent beings.

i hope you realize most catholics believe in religion

Indeed, a catholic who doesn't believe in religion is quite confused!

JohnG@lt wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

To fuck up experiments and thus prove evolution wrong

hahaha, wrong science for that!  He wasn't a bad guy or anything...it was just clear that he was studying a subject that is quite literally the antithesis of his core beliefs.  How does one do that?

http://www.kingsroadmerch.com/files/ima … 3/3432.jpg

This might be interesting.

I used to work for the astrophysicist who wrote this book.  He used to partake in the occasional evolution vs. creationism 'debates' that happened on campus every so often.  They weren't really debates, since the creation argument is quite weak and clearly doesn't hold up to rigorous scrutiny.  Apparently his book tackles the issue, however not from a combative point of view, but from a philosophical one.  I've always wanted to read it...but alas, I'm too cheap!  :p

SenorToenails wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:

hahaha, wrong science for that!  He wasn't a bad guy or anything...it was just clear that he was studying a subject that is quite literally the antithesis of his core beliefs.  How does one do that?

http://www.kingsroadmerch.com/files/ima … 3/3432.jpg

This might be interesting.

I used to work for the astrophysicist who wrote this book.  He used to partake in the occasional evolution vs. creationism 'debates' that happened on campus every so often.  They weren't really debates, since the creation argument is quite weak and clearly doesn't hold up to rigorous scrutiny.  Apparently his book tackles the issue, however not from a combative point of view, but from a philosophical one.  I've always wanted to read it...but alas, I'm too cheap!  :p

Ahh, Greg Graffin is the lead singer of Bad Religion. His PhD dissertation was titled "Evolution, Monism, Atheism and the Natural World View". It's as boring as anything you'd expect from a dissertation but he did a pretty damn good job collecting religious beliefs from scientists around the world. A surprising number of them do indeed maintain at least some faith. It was something like 40% if I remember correctly.

Any space faring race would probably be intelligent enough to have abandoned religion a long time ago.