13urnzz
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JohnG@lt wrote:

Kmar wrote:

Well with comedy at least you're getting some entertainment out of the deal. Fear just has you quivering in the corner.
I used to be on a different message board and me and this other guy had almost identical belief sets and we were both rather long winded. He ended up being the most popular guy on the message board because he used humor while I became one of the most reviled. We were both saying the same thing but people had completely different reactions to our approach. It was interesting to see it play out.
that's not a different board, that's just EE.

Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6663|North Carolina

Kmar wrote:

It obviously comes from both sides. We're now to the point of blaming people for "starting it". This juvenile tit for tat mentality is so ridiculous. I wish this nation would just grow the fuck up.


and yea DB you're right on that account. What business is it of the Sheriff to talk politics hours after he had bodies laying in his streets? I know he is elected into his position, so he probably feels compelled to offer up his opinion. But there is a time and place. Get to work you jive ass fool.
*shrugs* If nothing else, it does make things entertaining.  America seems like the circus of the First World oftentimes.
Jay
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Kmar wrote:

Maybe you're just a douche?








lol xxoo
I am I know I come across as a high and mighty asshole a lot of the time. I'm conceited and I'm arrogant, but most of the time I back my shit up and that's what's important to me
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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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It also depends on who you are talking to. I've dropped some comedy gold during political discussions but some people are just uptight when it comes to certain things.. cant even crack a smile [whysoserious]
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Turquoise
O Canada
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JohnG@lt wrote:

I don't understand the hatred the left has for Palin tbh.
Personally, I don't hate her.  She mostly just alternates between amusing and depressing me.

Then again, that would describe much of America in general for me.
13rin
Member
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JohnG@lt wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Kmar wrote:

Imagine a world where we didn't view politics as a soap opera. How boring and yet productive would that be?
Haha...  Think about it though. If the media portrayed obama for who he really is, he never would have won.  Imagine if the had given Palin the Obama treatment.  Who are the real king makers now-a-days?
John Stewart and Stephen Colbert tbh. Why? Because laughter is the most effective means of marginalizing any group. Can't beat someone intellectually? Crack a joke that makes people laugh at the other person. You've now silenced them and made their allies uncomfortable. No one likes being laughed at or made fun of. Laughter does more to destroy a persons dignity and arguments than the weightiest intellectual argument ever could. It's the primary weapon the left possesses and they wield it effectively.
I'd begrudgeingly go along with that.  Look at the S&L Palin skits and their effects.
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6663|North Carolina

Kmar wrote:

Imagine a world where we didn't view politics as a soap opera. How boring and yet productive would that be?
That world exists in some of our economic peers.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6663|North Carolina

JohnG@lt wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Kmar wrote:

Imagine a world where we didn't view politics as a soap opera. How boring and yet productive would that be?
Haha...  Think about it though. If the media portrayed obama for who he really is, he never would have won.  Imagine if the had given Palin the Obama treatment.  Who are the real king makers now-a-days?
John Stewart and Stephen Colbert tbh. Why? Because laughter is the most effective means of marginalizing any group. Can't beat someone intellectually? Crack a joke that makes people laugh at the other person. You've now silenced them and made their allies uncomfortable. No one likes being laughed at or made fun of. Laughter does more to destroy a persons dignity and arguments than the weightiest intellectual argument ever could. It's the primary weapon the left possesses and they wield it effectively.
Why bother voting then?  The right has its own weapons -- mostly in the form of patriotism.  If the sum of both sides arguing is just a matter of arbitrary bullshit, then the system is a farce and not worth participating in.

Granted, we do live in a system where technically state governments can remove your "right" to vote for any reason not covered by the Constitution.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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Turquoise wrote:

Kmar wrote:

Imagine a world where we didn't view politics as a soap opera. How boring and yet productive would that be?
That world exists in some of our economic peers.
Which? I think most of them have their own little in-fightings. Just not as highly publicized.
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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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Turquoise wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:


Haha...  Think about it though. If the media portrayed obama for who he really is, he never would have won.  Imagine if the had given Palin the Obama treatment.  Who are the real king makers now-a-days?
John Stewart and Stephen Colbert tbh. Why? Because laughter is the most effective means of marginalizing any group. Can't beat someone intellectually? Crack a joke that makes people laugh at the other person. You've now silenced them and made their allies uncomfortable. No one likes being laughed at or made fun of. Laughter does more to destroy a persons dignity and arguments than the weightiest intellectual argument ever could. It's the primary weapon the left possesses and they wield it effectively.
Why bother voting then?  The right has its own weapons -- mostly in the form of patriotism.  If the sum of both sides arguing is just a matter of arbitrary bullshit, then the system is a farce and not worth participating in.

Granted, we do live in a system where technically state governments can remove your "right" to vote for any reason not covered by the Constitution.
There is nothing wrong with patriotism if it doesn't lead to unquestionable leadership. Patriotism is not always a bad thing. It can be productive.
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6663|North Carolina

Kmar wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Kmar wrote:

Imagine a world where we didn't view politics as a soap opera. How boring and yet productive would that be?
That world exists in some of our economic peers.
Which? I think most of them have their own little in-fightings. Just not as highly publicized.
Well, I'm sure there's partisanship in Canada, but aside from some of the Quebecois separatists, the vitriol between the left and right up there seems pretty tame.  I've been reading the CBC for a while now, and politics seem nowhere near as tabloidish up there.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5615|London, England

Turquoise wrote:

Kmar wrote:

Turquoise wrote:


That world exists in some of our economic peers.
Which? I think most of them have their own little in-fightings. Just not as highly publicized.
Well, I'm sure there's partisanship in Canada, but aside from some of the Quebecois separatists, the vitriol between the left and right up there seems pretty tame.  I've been reading the CBC for a while now, and politics seem nowhere near as tabloidish up there.
They have government controlled media do they not?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6858|132 and Bush

DBBrinson1 wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:


Haha...  Think about it though. If the media portrayed obama for who he really is, he never would have won.  Imagine if the had given Palin the Obama treatment.  Who are the real king makers now-a-days?
John Stewart and Stephen Colbert tbh. Why? Because laughter is the most effective means of marginalizing any group. Can't beat someone intellectually? Crack a joke that makes people laugh at the other person. You've now silenced them and made their allies uncomfortable. No one likes being laughed at or made fun of. Laughter does more to destroy a persons dignity and arguments than the weightiest intellectual argument ever could. It's the primary weapon the left possesses and they wield it effectively.
I'd begrudgeingly go along with that.  Look at the S&L Palin skits and their effects.
lol.. i don't think snl was nearly as influential as they'd like you to think. Palin was already dead weight imo.
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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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Turquoise wrote:

Kmar wrote:

Turquoise wrote:


That world exists in some of our economic peers.
Which? I think most of them have their own little in-fightings. Just not as highly publicized.
Well, I'm sure there's partisanship in Canada, but aside from some of the Quebecois separatists, the vitriol between the left and right up there seems pretty tame.  I've been reading the CBC for a while now, and politics seem nowhere near as tabloidish up there.
What part of American culture is not flamboyant?
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6663|North Carolina

Kmar wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:


John Stewart and Stephen Colbert tbh. Why? Because laughter is the most effective means of marginalizing any group. Can't beat someone intellectually? Crack a joke that makes people laugh at the other person. You've now silenced them and made their allies uncomfortable. No one likes being laughed at or made fun of. Laughter does more to destroy a persons dignity and arguments than the weightiest intellectual argument ever could. It's the primary weapon the left possesses and they wield it effectively.
Why bother voting then?  The right has its own weapons -- mostly in the form of patriotism.  If the sum of both sides arguing is just a matter of arbitrary bullshit, then the system is a farce and not worth participating in.

Granted, we do live in a system where technically state governments can remove your "right" to vote for any reason not covered by the Constitution.
There is nothing wrong with patriotism if it doesn't lead to unquestionable leadership. Patriotism is not always a bad thing. It can be productive.
I'm beginning to feel like nationalism and nationhood are just arbitrary and pointless divisions we draw up to preserve differences in wealth and standard of living.

We cling to cultural identities that make it easier to separate ourselves despite all being the same species.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6663|North Carolina

JohnG@lt wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Kmar wrote:


Which? I think most of them have their own little in-fightings. Just not as highly publicized.
Well, I'm sure there's partisanship in Canada, but aside from some of the Quebecois separatists, the vitriol between the left and right up there seems pretty tame.  I've been reading the CBC for a while now, and politics seem nowhere near as tabloidish up there.
They have government controlled media do they not?
It's government funded, and yeah, their government definitely controls certain aspects of the entertainment industry.

Honestly though...   Their news seems considerably higher quality than ours...  just like the BBC.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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also.. we do have a few decent media outlets here.. I'd say stay away from cable new. but you don't want to. Not really. love/hate
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6663|North Carolina

Kmar wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Kmar wrote:


Which? I think most of them have their own little in-fightings. Just not as highly publicized.
Well, I'm sure there's partisanship in Canada, but aside from some of the Quebecois separatists, the vitriol between the left and right up there seems pretty tame.  I've been reading the CBC for a while now, and politics seem nowhere near as tabloidish up there.
What part of American culture is not flamboyant?
Yeah, that's kind of a problem.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6858|132 and Bush

Turquoise wrote:

Kmar wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Why bother voting then?  The right has its own weapons -- mostly in the form of patriotism.  If the sum of both sides arguing is just a matter of arbitrary bullshit, then the system is a farce and not worth participating in.

Granted, we do live in a system where technically state governments can remove your "right" to vote for any reason not covered by the Constitution.
There is nothing wrong with patriotism if it doesn't lead to unquestionable leadership. Patriotism is not always a bad thing. It can be productive.
I'm beginning to feel like nationalism and nationhood are just arbitrary and pointless divisions we draw up to preserve differences in wealth and standard of living.

We cling to cultural identities that make it easier to separate ourselves despite all being the same species.
It can be about working together for a common goal. If you take pride into something you create (a society) then you are more likely to put effort into it. I think you are a pessimist by nature turq, so naturally you only see the worst.
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Jay
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Kmar wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Kmar wrote:


There is nothing wrong with patriotism if it doesn't lead to unquestionable leadership. Patriotism is not always a bad thing. It can be productive.
I'm beginning to feel like nationalism and nationhood are just arbitrary and pointless divisions we draw up to preserve differences in wealth and standard of living.

We cling to cultural identities that make it easier to separate ourselves despite all being the same species.
It can be about working together for a common goal. If you take pride into something you create (a society) then you are more likely to put effort into it. I think you are a pessimist by nature turq, so naturally you only see the worst.
It can also be used to blind people while you effectively swindle them.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
lowing
Banned
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presidentsheep wrote:

Kmar wrote:

Hunter/Jumper wrote:


my point is What makes THESE CITIES bad ? there are other places ( poor ones too ) with guns up the ass with no crime, Its not the guns
Yea.. truth be told it can happen anywhere. I was held up in hyde park .. which is full of million dollar homes.
I got robbed/mugged in Norwich... Fucking Norwich
you mean after all of your bullshit about never needing to defend yourself, you are gunna tell us you were mugged? Let me guess, you lost everything you were carrying, but at least the criminals life was spared.. Be right back, I am gunna go throw up.
13rin
Member
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lowing wrote:

presidentsheep wrote:

Kmar wrote:


Yea.. truth be told it can happen anywhere. I was held up in hyde park .. which is full of million dollar homes.
I got robbed/mugged in Norwich... Fucking Norwich
you mean after all of your bullshit about never needing to defend yourself, you are gunna tell us you were mugged? Let me guess, you lost everything you were carrying, but at least the criminals life was spared.. Be right back, I am gunna go throw up.
hahahaha....
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5615|London, England

lowing wrote:

presidentsheep wrote:

Kmar wrote:


Yea.. truth be told it can happen anywhere. I was held up in hyde park .. which is full of million dollar homes.
I got robbed/mugged in Norwich... Fucking Norwich
you mean after all of your bullshit about never needing to defend yourself, you are gunna tell us you were mugged? Let me guess, you lost everything you were carrying, but at least the criminals life was spared.. Be right back, I am gunna go throw up.
You have this strange belief that all criminals should be beheaded as soon as they are found guilty, no matter how petty the offense. I'm surprised you loathe Muslims to such a large degree.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6663|North Carolina

Kmar wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Kmar wrote:


There is nothing wrong with patriotism if it doesn't lead to unquestionable leadership. Patriotism is not always a bad thing. It can be productive.
I'm beginning to feel like nationalism and nationhood are just arbitrary and pointless divisions we draw up to preserve differences in wealth and standard of living.

We cling to cultural identities that make it easier to separate ourselves despite all being the same species.
It can be about working together for a common goal. If you take pride into something you create (a society) then you are more likely to put effort into it. I think you are a pessimist by nature turq, so naturally you only see the worst.
I'm a cynic, not a pessimist, but I realize they have much in common.

I still believe that we're reaching a point where it's more about coming together as a species.  The world is too small and interdependent to focus so much on national identities.  I think it's by more than just a coincidence that the most primitive nations are the most divided by tribalism.

Yet, we have this strange throwback to something similar to tribalism with our own focus on decentralization of authority.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6858|132 and Bush

lowing wrote:

presidentsheep wrote:

Kmar wrote:

Yea.. truth be told it can happen anywhere. I was held up in hyde park .. which is full of million dollar homes.
I got robbed/mugged in Norwich... Fucking Norwich
you mean after all of your bullshit about never needing to defend yourself, you are gunna tell us you were mugged? Let me guess, you lost everything you were carrying, but at least the criminals life was spared.. Be right back, I am gunna go throw up.
What the hell are you talking about? When have I EVER said anything about not needing to defend yourself? You're a confused old man.

In fact I fully support the second amendment.

Bring your brain when you come back
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