BUT ITS A FUCKING PRIUS AND YOU'RE KILLING THE ENVIROMENT IF YOU DONT HAVE ONE!!!11111!FloppY_ wrote:
Not to mention their mileage is nearly the same as a regular eco-diesel unless you only drive them below 50kph, in which case, you are better off with fully electric...
Excatly the kind of ignorism I was referring toUnkleRukus wrote:
BUT ITS A FUCKING PRIUS AND YOU'RE KILLING THE ENVIROMENT IF YOU DONT HAVE ONE!!!11111!FloppY_ wrote:
Not to mention their mileage is nearly the same as a regular eco-diesel unless you only drive them below 50kph, in which case, you are better off with fully electric...
Eventually the oil companies will run so low on product that they will have to siphon whatever ressources they have left into alternatives, let's hope they go towards extracting Hydrogen from sea-water... Because hydrogen is the closest renewable fuelsource to the current oil-based in terms of "stop - fill up - go"...Turquoise wrote:
I think the general purpose behind Hybrids was, as you said, marketing. Although, it's not all bad...
The average consumer is unfamiliar with the technology behind electric cars and not typically familiar with growing energy concerns. Hybrids essentially served as a first step to acclimate people towards using an electric vehicle.
Jumping headlong into electric cars didn't work in previous instances, so hybrids were a logical choice from the perspective of an automaker.
From a consumer viewpoint, it makes more sense to wait until full electric cars are more economical. They eventually will be, but unfortunately, oil will likely be almost gone by then. It will be less of a voluntary shift than a mandatory one.
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So really Biofuel isn't the solution. And IMO hydrogen is, atleast it is easier to obtain than biofuel and the main ingredient is all around us.Mekstizzle wrote:
Nuclear power (eventually going from fission to fusion and being supplemented with Wind/Water/Solar power) and using that to generate hydrogen fuel seems like the best solution to me.
It can be done, but it will only be done when it needs to be done. I think right now the world is going the way of battery electric hybrids or full battery electric vehicles. Personally it's not really the right way forward unless someone can come up with a battery that's as good as a petrol tank (in all aspects)
Biofuels could be done. I reckon if someone was willing to invest into turning the Sahara desert (or any humongous empty peice of land) into land good enough to grow Biofuels they'd make a killing selling all that fuel, but it'd probably cost hundreds of billions just to do such a massive project. Infact I remember reading that the amount of land required to grow enough Biofuel to replace Fossil fuel isn't even that big.
Please tell me we are talking about the same car and not one of the America only mutant ones?AussieReaper wrote:
Hopefully these cars sell very well, because the US auto-industry really needs to be more competitive to survive.
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looks like it.FloppY_ wrote:
Please tell me we are talking about the same car and not one of the America only mutant ones?AussieReaper wrote:
Hopefully these cars sell very well, because the US auto-industry really needs to be more competitive to survive.
Because the Focus we have over here is as European as they come...
EDIT: Oh god the coming generation is hideous:
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/9866 … ssedan.jpg
So ford is basically following the current trend of hideous car design?AussieReaper wrote:
looks like it.FloppY_ wrote:
Please tell me we are talking about the same car and not one of the America only mutant ones?AussieReaper wrote:
Hopefully these cars sell very well, because the US auto-industry really needs to be more competitive to survive.
Because the Focus we have over here is as European as they come...
EDIT: Oh god the coming generation is hideous:
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/9866 … ssedan.jpg
For the 2012 model year, Ford decided to reunite both international and North American models by releasing the international Mk3 worldwide. The current North American version will thus be discontinued, and one new model — a five-door hatchback/liftback sedan — will be launched for this market simultaneously with the Mk3 launch in Europe, both scheduled to start production for Europe and North America late in 2010 and market launch early in 2011.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Focus … .282012.29
lol
Yup, electric cars only work for 90% of the population.JohnG@lt wrote:
Electric cars still only work for people in the suburbs with a garage. That kills a good chunk of their market (especially since it would be urban people buying into a product like this).
oh the humanity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Dilbert_X wrote:
Yup, electric cars only work for 90% of the population.JohnG@lt wrote:
Electric cars still only work for people in the suburbs with a garage. That kills a good chunk of their market (especially since it would be urban people buying into a product like this).
um, wat?Dilbert_X wrote:
Yup, electric cars only work for 90% of the population.JohnG@lt wrote:
Electric cars still only work for people in the suburbs with a garage. That kills a good chunk of their market (especially since it would be urban people buying into a product like this).
do you make your own electricity?Morpheus wrote:
um, wat?Dilbert_X wrote:
Yup, electric cars only work for 90% of the population.JohnG@lt wrote:
Electric cars still only work for people in the suburbs with a garage. That kills a good chunk of their market (especially since it would be urban people buying into a product like this).
i thought he was talking about the garage bit.11 Bravo wrote:
do you make your own electricity?Morpheus wrote:
um, wat?Dilbert_X wrote:
Yup, electric cars only work for 90% of the population.
wut can we do?11 Bravo wrote:
listen you cunt wipes. people cry about oil prices so stop being cunts and do something about it. yes you can do something you lazy fucks.
most people have access to a garage. but they would rather spend the money needed for it on a new video card or something stupid. ya i know new york street parking blah blah blah. he said 90%Morpheus wrote:
i thought he was talking about the garage bit.11 Bravo wrote:
do you make your own electricity?Morpheus wrote:
um, wat?
yea, that's what i meant. plus, people who store too much shit in their garage for it to hold a car11 Bravo wrote:
most people have access to a garage. but they would rather spend the money needed for it on a new video card or something stupid. ya i know new york street parking blah blah blah. he said 90%Morpheus wrote:
i thought he was talking about the garage bit.11 Bravo wrote:
do you make your own electricity?
That new car looks a lot better than the one you linked first.FloppY_ wrote:
Please tell me we are talking about the same car and not one of the America only mutant ones?AussieReaper wrote:
Hopefully these cars sell very well, because the US auto-industry really needs to be more competitive to survive.
Because the Focus we have over here is as European as they come...
EDIT: Oh god the coming generation is hideous:
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/9866 … ssedan.jpg
Too bad the "one" I linked to was all of the Global Focus' including the hidious upcoming oneTurquoise wrote:
That new car looks a lot better than the one you linked first.FloppY_ wrote:
Please tell me we are talking about the same car and not one of the America only mutant ones?AussieReaper wrote:
Hopefully these cars sell very well, because the US auto-industry really needs to be more competitive to survive.
Because the Focus we have over here is as European as they come...
EDIT: Oh god the coming generation is hideous:
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/9866 … ssedan.jpg
I was referring to the current model vs. the future one. The new Focus looks better.FloppY_ wrote:
Too bad the "one" I linked to was all of the Global Focus' including the hidious upcoming oneTurquoise wrote:
That new car looks a lot better than the one you linked first.FloppY_ wrote:
Please tell me we are talking about the same car and not one of the America only mutant ones?
Because the Focus we have over here is as European as they come...
EDIT: Oh god the coming generation is hideous:
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/9866 … ssedan.jpg
Not really, it's been downhill ever sinceTurquoise wrote:
I was referring to the current model vs. the future one. The new Focus looks better.FloppY_ wrote:
Too bad the "one" I linked to was all of the Global Focus' including the hidious upcoming oneTurquoise wrote:
That new car looks a lot better than the one you linked first.
