Since there is a good chance the NFL will lockout next year..or at least half the year, I vowed last time they went on strike that the next time these bitchy millionaires go on strike I am done with the NFL. That being said I need someone to explain rugby to me. Best leagues? Basic league setup and structure? any rugby games for ps3 out there?
League or Union?
Best Leagues:
Union - Super 14 Super Rugby
League - NRL
Best Leagues:
Union - Super 14 Super Rugby
League - NRL
whats the diff?DrunkFace wrote:
League or Union?
Names as far as I can tell.11 Bravo wrote:
whats the diff?DrunkFace wrote:
League or Union?
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
Lots of little changes, the main one being in league you have 6 tackles in which to score, if you haven't lost possession or scored by the 6th tackle the ball in turned over to the opposition. In union you have unlimited tackles or "phases" as long as you can maintain possession. Difference being union you must release the ball as soon as you hit the ground. In league you keep possession after a each tackle and play is reset not too dissimilar to plays in NFL.11 Bravo wrote:
whats the diff?DrunkFace wrote:
League or Union?
Typical Victorian.Cheez wrote:
Names as far as I can tell.11 Bravo wrote:
whats the diff?DrunkFace wrote:
League or Union?
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AFL is better the any rugby tho
Last edited by DrunkFace (2011-01-03 03:45:09)
The six nations is always fun to watch too, it starts next month, unfortunately rugby union is one thing the French are quite good at.
Its a lot better these days than 10 years ago, it used to be like 'foot tennis' just booting the ball back and forth but now people tend to catch it and try running with it.
All Blacks and Strayer excused - they have always run with it
All Blacks and Strayer excused - they have always run with it
Between League/Union
Which one has no limit on how many rucks?
cuase that one is my favourite
I guess i love union
Which one has no limit on how many rucks?
cuase that one is my favourite
I guess i love union
Last edited by {B-T}<babacanosh> (2011-01-03 08:54:39)
Rugby world cup in NZ at the end of the year too
what aboot the leagues in england? are they kind of setup like the football leagues?
The main one is the Aviva premiership, I prefer the Magners league though.
Aviva is English teams, Magners is Welsh, Irish, Scottish and two Italian teams, much better league
Aviva is English teams, Magners is Welsh, Irish, Scottish and two Italian teams, much better league
yeah the leagues are set up much like any other. National and international leagues.
However if you keep using 'leagues' as a description you might get confused with the rugby league/rugby union debate.
League vs union is like national vs american in baseball. the basic game is the same, but the flavour is different.
although i guess rugby league is closer to nfl style of play but without the line of scrimmage battles NFL has every down. Rugby union has these battles known 'scrums' where 8 players a side push against each other for control of the ball.
40 minute halves for total 80 minutes BUT games can last several minutes longer if the ball is still live. The leading team can kick the ball out of bounds to finish the game.
14 players a side in league
15 players a side in union.
tackles:
league: almost anything goes very similar to NFL.
union: since it was amateur origins, tackling is more careful but watching sometimes...ouch
4 ways to score:
try (i..e touchdown): in order to score a try the play MUST ground the ball in the 'end zone. just going over the line is not enough. 5 points
conversion kick after try: ball is played on a line 22m away from and parallel to the 'goal line'. The position on the line is based on where the ball was grounded for the try. This means the ball can be played right on the edges of the field making the kicks a lot further than 22m and the target significantly smaller. 2 points.
penalty kick: one of the options when there is a penalty is to 'kick for goal'. Good kickers can score from 60m (65 yards). The kick is from the point of infraction. 3 points
drop kick: at any time during play, a player can opt to attempt for a drop kick. The ball MUST be bounced off the ground and kicked through the posts. Much harder to do. 3 points.
in the past, league was the 'professional' option, once you played league you could not play union as it was 'amateur'. that has changed as most union players are now professionals.
The world cup in new zealand is rugby union.
http://www.rugbydump.blogspot.com/ is the place to go for links to videos on rugby.
However if you keep using 'leagues' as a description you might get confused with the rugby league/rugby union debate.
League vs union is like national vs american in baseball. the basic game is the same, but the flavour is different.
although i guess rugby league is closer to nfl style of play but without the line of scrimmage battles NFL has every down. Rugby union has these battles known 'scrums' where 8 players a side push against each other for control of the ball.
40 minute halves for total 80 minutes BUT games can last several minutes longer if the ball is still live. The leading team can kick the ball out of bounds to finish the game.
14 players a side in league
15 players a side in union.
tackles:
league: almost anything goes very similar to NFL.
union: since it was amateur origins, tackling is more careful but watching sometimes...ouch
4 ways to score:
try (i..e touchdown): in order to score a try the play MUST ground the ball in the 'end zone. just going over the line is not enough. 5 points
conversion kick after try: ball is played on a line 22m away from and parallel to the 'goal line'. The position on the line is based on where the ball was grounded for the try. This means the ball can be played right on the edges of the field making the kicks a lot further than 22m and the target significantly smaller. 2 points.
penalty kick: one of the options when there is a penalty is to 'kick for goal'. Good kickers can score from 60m (65 yards). The kick is from the point of infraction. 3 points
drop kick: at any time during play, a player can opt to attempt for a drop kick. The ball MUST be bounced off the ground and kicked through the posts. Much harder to do. 3 points.
in the past, league was the 'professional' option, once you played league you could not play union as it was 'amateur'. that has changed as most union players are now professionals.
The world cup in new zealand is rugby union.
http://www.rugbydump.blogspot.com/ is the place to go for links to videos on rugby.
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one is for posh gits at public schools and the other is for northern bastids from the mines11 Bravo wrote:
whats the diff?DrunkFace wrote:
League or Union?
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so union is for the poor people, yes?Uzique wrote:
one is for posh gits at public schools and the other is for northern bastids from the mines11 Bravo wrote:
whats the diff?DrunkFace wrote:
League or Union?
oh and if you want a good team to follow, usm, follow my home-team
i think they'll be right up your street
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloucester_Rugby
i think they'll be right up your street
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloucester_Rugby
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Also every player is allowed to handle the ball. There is no 'illegible receivers' crap as in the NFL.
There are no forward passes in either rugby.
If your team fumbles the ball FORWARD, your team is not allowed to recover it. If it does, then it is called a 'knock-on'. This is why you often see players trying to catch kicked balls over their shoulders. If they miss the catch, the ball tends to go backwards and thus your team is allowed to grab it.
Any player can kick the ball forward.
You are not allowed to interfere with players who don't have the ball. This means a player running with the ball, can kick it over/passed the opposing team, and then run past them to recover the ball. The opposing team is not allowed to impede the player. Kicking on the run is a skill.
There are no forward passes in either rugby.
If your team fumbles the ball FORWARD, your team is not allowed to recover it. If it does, then it is called a 'knock-on'. This is why you often see players trying to catch kicked balls over their shoulders. If they miss the catch, the ball tends to go backwards and thus your team is allowed to grab it.
Any player can kick the ball forward.
You are not allowed to interfere with players who don't have the ball. This means a player running with the ball, can kick it over/passed the opposing team, and then run past them to recover the ball. The opposing team is not allowed to impede the player. Kicking on the run is a skill.
The US economy is a giant Ponzi scheme. And 'to big to fail' is code speak for 'niahnahniahniahnah 99 percenters'
union is for people that went to schools like mine11 Bravo wrote:
so union is for the poor people, yes?Uzique wrote:
one is for posh gits at public schools and the other is for northern bastids from the mines11 Bravo wrote:
whats the diff?
league is for those dirty people that flunked through schools like yours
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league it is.
also thank you, stub
also thank you, stub
League is shit marine, Union is a lot better, adopt the Ospreys as your favourite team and masturbate with me when Shane Williams scores a try
E: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ospreys_%28rugby_team%29
E: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ospreys_%28rugby_team%29
Last edited by Sturgeon (2011-01-03 14:45:06)
aye aye
both are good, but i tend to stick to watching international events. Dont know much about the leagues.
Union is old school rugby, friends that went to posh schools all played this version, they didn't have a clue with a football though. Six nations is a good tounament between the european rubgy union power houses & most teams are evenly matched.
League is just a fast paced version and generally played by northern england teams, wigan, bradford (saaaafe) leeds etc still good to watch
Aussies have been known to dominate the game internationally in the past (held both union and league world cups at the same time) however its proberbly better is you stick to European rubgy because of the time difference.
Union is old school rugby, friends that went to posh schools all played this version, they didn't have a clue with a football though. Six nations is a good tounament between the european rubgy union power houses & most teams are evenly matched.
League is just a fast paced version and generally played by northern england teams, wigan, bradford (saaaafe) leeds etc still good to watch
Aussies have been known to dominate the game internationally in the past (held both union and league world cups at the same time) however its proberbly better is you stick to European rubgy because of the time difference.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
League is higher skilled than Union (admit it, it's true).
You've got a choice of watching either the ELS (England) or NRL (Aussie).
Union has piss poor national comps, but does good international games. Vice-versa for League imo.
You've got a choice of watching either the ELS (England) or NRL (Aussie).
Union has piss poor national comps, but does good international games. Vice-versa for League imo.
not that into rubgy to be able to discern which is more 'skilled'.
true.AussieReaper wrote:
Union has piss poor national comps, but does good international games. Vice-versa for League imo.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Just the pace of the game, and the fact that Rugby has specialist forwards who you would never see in a backline. League has players who need to be able to fill a few roles with smaller number a players on the field.m3thod wrote:
not that into rubgy to be able to discern which is more 'skilled'.
The scrums aren't contested in League anymore which is a shame. So Union has that advantage.
well thats exactly it....twas thinking england due to the time zone stuff.m3thod wrote:
both are good, but i tend to stick to watching international events. Dont know much about the leagues.
Union is old school rugby, friends that went to posh schools all played this version, they didn't have a clue with a football though. Six nations is a good tounament between the european rubgy union power houses & most teams are evenly matched.
League is just a fast paced version and generally played by northern england teams, wigan, bradford (saaaafe) leeds etc still good to watch
Aussies have been known to dominate the game internationally in the past (held both union and league world cups at the same time) however its proberbly better is you stick to European rubgy because of the time difference.