Whose fault is that? The moderates for not building a coalition, no?Dilbert_X wrote:
The hard right has been in power since day one, nothing to do with Gaza, in fact the most moderate party won the majority of votes since then.
As discussed before, the parties which came second and fifth (IIRC) are currently running the country, not the moderates the people wanted.
This is not on topic.Dilbert_X wrote:
Wouldn't really have lasted long.JohnG@lt wrote:
You do understand that citizenship was offered to, and declined by, the majority of Muslims...? It was their own choice.
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun … ist-state/
"In effect, this means that no non-Jew could become a citizen of Israel, since none worthy of whatever their religion is would take such an oath."
Not quite yet, however they're working on it.FEOS wrote:
And there is nothing in Israeli citizenship law that requires the person applying for citizenship to be Jewish.
There's people like that in every nation. You said it yourself. They aren't in the majority.Dilbert_X wrote:
Not quite yet, however they're working on it.FEOS wrote:
And there is nothing in Israeli citizenship law that requires the person applying for citizenship to be Jewish.
Your post is off topic. Please try to talk about the topic at hand. {quote}Dilbert_X wrote:
Not quite yet, however they're working on it.FEOS wrote:
And there is nothing in Israeli citizenship law that requires the person applying for citizenship to be Jewish.
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Nah I'd happily live in Qatar or UAE. If you're not Muslim it's a Westerner's dream (if you don't mind the heat, which I don't).JohnG@lt wrote:
I don't understand your ridiculous hatred for Israel at all. I don't see them as harmless little angels by any means but I'd rather live there than in any of the Arab nations. By comparison, they're a shining beacon of tolerance and secularism. They even have Arabic as the second official language even though it is spoken by a minority.
Spent four days in Qatar. It was meh. I'd rather live in Siberia than the desert thoughSpark wrote:
Nah I'd happily live in Qatar or UAE. If you're not Muslim it's a Westerner's dream (if you don't mind the heat, which I don't).JohnG@lt wrote:
I don't understand your ridiculous hatred for Israel at all. I don't see them as harmless little angels by any means but I'd rather live there than in any of the Arab nations. By comparison, they're a shining beacon of tolerance and secularism. They even have Arabic as the second official language even though it is spoken by a minority.
Spark wrote:
Nah I'd happily live in Qatar or UAE. If you're not Muslim it's a Westerner's dream (if you don't mind the heat, which I don't).JohnG@lt wrote:
I don't understand your ridiculous hatred for Israel at all. I don't see them as harmless little angels by any means but I'd rather live there than in any of the Arab nations. By comparison, they're a shining beacon of tolerance and secularism. They even have Arabic as the second official language even though it is spoken by a minority.
US State Dept Website wrote:
Incidents involving insults or obscene language/gestures often result in arrest, overnight imprisonment, and/or fines whether the incident occurs between private parties or involves officers of the law. Insulting someone in public is considered a punishable offense.
SOURCESex outside marriage is illegal in the UAE, as is cohabitation, adultery and homosexual behaviour. Visitors are warned that public displays of affection are frowned upon, and there have been several arrests for kissing in public.
Simple really, they're modern day nazis with south african racism and apartheid thrown in, a huge proportion of the violence and problems in the world are directly traceable to the consequences of their biblical fruitballery.JohnG@lt wrote:
I don't understand your ridiculous hatred for Israel at all. I don't see them as harmless little angels by any means but I'd rather live there than in any of the Arab nations. By comparison, they're a shining beacon of tolerance and secularism. They even have Arabic as the second official language even though it is spoken by a minority.
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Zionists are a small minority and you're turning them into representatives of the majority. You said it yourself, the moderates are the majority.Dilbert_X wrote:
Simple really, they're modern day nazis with south african racism thrown in, and a huge proportion of the violence and problems in the world are directly traceable to the consequences of their biblical fruitballery.JohnG@lt wrote:
I don't understand your ridiculous hatred for Israel at all. I don't see them as harmless little angels by any means but I'd rather live there than in any of the Arab nations. By comparison, they're a shining beacon of tolerance and secularism. They even have Arabic as the second official language even though it is spoken by a minority.
Hammering muslims is addressing the symptom, not the causes - of which Israel is a big one.
You keep the off-topic subject going and tell us to get back on topic?FEOS wrote:
This is not on topic.Dilbert_X wrote:
Wouldn't really have lasted long.JohnG@lt wrote:
You do understand that citizenship was offered to, and declined by, the majority of Muslims...? It was their own choice.
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun … ist-state/
"In effect, this means that no non-Jew could become a citizen of Israel, since none worthy of whatever their religion is would take such an oath."
And there is nothing in Israeli citizenship law that requires the person applying for citizenship to be Jewish.
Keep it on topic, or posts will start to get deleted.
Yeah, what happened to topics evolving? Nothing ever stays on topic past the second page.Dilbert_X wrote:
You keep the off-topic subject going and tell us to get back on topic?FEOS wrote:
This is not on topic.Dilbert_X wrote:
Wouldn't really have lasted long.
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun … ist-state/
"In effect, this means that no non-Jew could become a citizen of Israel, since none worthy of whatever their religion is would take such an oath."
And there is nothing in Israeli citizenship law that requires the person applying for citizenship to be Jewish.
Keep it on topic, or posts will start to get deleted.
Your post is off topic. Please try to talk about the topic at hand. {quote}JohnG@lt wrote:
Zionists are a small minority and you're turning them into representatives of the majority. You said it yourself, the moderates are the majority.
That's like saying fundamentalist Christians make up the majority in America because Bush was president for eight years. They don't, not even close.
So how about the Muslims living within the borders of Israel accept Israeli citizenship and work from within to help moderate the Israeli government. They have that option and opportunity. There's nothing preventing them from doing so except stubborn pride and the status that being 'the victim' gives them.
Because Israel-related topics turn into triple-digit page long train wrecks.JohnG@lt wrote:
Yeah, what happened to topics evolving? Nothing ever stays on topic past the second page.Dilbert_X wrote:
You keep the off-topic subject going and tell us to get back on topic?FEOS wrote:
This is not on topic.
And there is nothing in Israeli citizenship law that requires the person applying for citizenship to be Jewish.
Keep it on topic, or posts will start to get deleted.
Muslims are certainly fair game in the discussion, and have been.Dilbert_X wrote:
Just keep the discussion to the paucity of US journalism and the spinelessnes of corporate execs.
No need for any discussion of muslims.
No, the comment was about Israel being significantly more religiously bigoted than Saudi Arabia, since Saudi Arabia was being held up as the epitome of religious bigotry.FEOS wrote:
Then Dilbert jumps in with a random, totally unrelated "Israel is the fucking devil" comment to derail into his own world view.
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I don't really know what more needed to be said. I think we all agreed that if we were to see a bearded Muslim board the same plane as us we would get nervous and that the PC types are morons.FEOS wrote:
Muslims are certainly fair game in the discussion, and have been.Dilbert_X wrote:
Just keep the discussion to the paucity of US journalism and the spinelessnes of corporate execs.
No need for any discussion of muslims.
That would be considered...the term is "on topic".
Israel is largely secular. Saudi Arabia is wholly religious. You're just blinded by your silly hatred.Dilbert_X wrote:
No, the comment was about Israel being significantly more religiously bigoted than Saudi Arabia, since Saudi Arabia was being held up as the epitome of religious bigotry.FEOS wrote:
Then Dilbert jumps in with a random, totally unrelated "Israel is the fucking devil" comment to derail into his own world view.
You just always jump in to defend Israel no matter what.
Israel is hardly secular, and as already pointed out, if the oath of allegiance is changed to define the nation according to a single religion it certainly won't be.JohnG@lt wrote:
Israel is largely secular. Saudi Arabia is wholly religious. You're just blinded by your silly hatred.
And if you want to start an Israel thread, feel free. That is not what this thread is about.Dilbert_X wrote:
No, the comment was about Israel being significantly more religiously bigoted than Saudi Arabia, since Saudi Arabia was being held up as the epitome of religious bigotry.FEOS wrote:
Then Dilbert jumps in with a random, totally unrelated "Israel is the fucking devil" comment to derail into his own world view.
You just always jump in to defend Israel no matter what, and tell us to keep on topic while trying to get the last word in yourself.
No, you're trying to impose your view and stifle discussion at the same time.FEOS wrote:
As to the "last word" comment: I'm doing my fucking job as a moderator
Now explain how socialised medicine is on topic.FEOS wrote:
This is not on topic.
And there is nothing in Israeli citizenship law that requires the person applying for citizenship to be Jewish.
Keep it on topic, or posts will start to get deleted.
FEOS wrote:
Socialized medicine is a proposed solution to an issue. That issue being health care reform. I would argue that the left in this country is remarkably intolerant of alternative views regarding that issue, even though both sides agree reform is required.
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