Still, a squad would probably rather have a couple PKM-toting support guys than G3's with smokes. Or maybe some AT guys. Or maybe a specops for killing that artillery. Or a medic for keeping them alive. Or a sniper for taking out campers...EnglishLion wrote:
The whole idea of BF2 is to squad up and have a selection of kits in your squad. Each has strong points and weak points, if your squad's already got AT, Medic, Support, Engineer etc then picking Assault is a reasonable choice. The G3 is a good weapon and the low ammo is not an issue as your support squad member has loads to give you!
Proper squads are ALWAYS at an advantage!
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F2000 is a kickass weapon but you can't get extra points. no heal points no revive points no ammo givin points. thats the reason why many dont use it. ... but i do
After reading that, I discoverd two things.JaM3z wrote:
Stuff
1: If the medic had the G3 as an unlock, no one would play assault.
2: If spec ops had flashbangs, no one would play assault.
Last edited by Citizen One (2006-05-06 04:24:26)
I play the Assault class a lot because of the grappling hook,comes in handy in maps like Warlord. The G3 was the 2nd gun I unlocked way back in August when Corporal was 12k points,definitely was glad I did. Assault my most played class but don't get me wrong,I rarely used the G.L except against vehicles. The AK 101 is one of the best rifles in the game IMO.
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And if the snipers didn't have claymores, they would be killed a lot more often, or at least have lower scores, which would make people stop playing it.Citizen One wrote:
After reading that, I discoverd two things.JaM3z wrote:
Stuff
1: If the medic had the G3 as an unlock, no one would play assault.
2: If spec ops had flashbangs, no one would play assault.
If assault had a Stinger, jet whores would cry and everyone would play assault.
We can play this game all day.
AK-101 - You can shoot from hip, alot of ammo, accuracy...good enough, love the sight.
AK-47 - High recoil, in single shoot(I often find my self killing sniper), alot of ammo, love the sight.
M16A2 - ALOT of ammo, burst(good for sniping), good accuracy.
G3 - accurate(but not before the 3rd shot), small amount of ammo, good sight, (for me it feels more like a sub than a rifle)
F2000 - sexyest sight in the game(lol), enough ammo, accuracy in single shot.
Thats my opinion!
BTW: I never use assault unlocks since I got them, you know why?! AKs are the best guns there is!
AK-47 - High recoil, in single shoot(I often find my self killing sniper), alot of ammo, love the sight.
M16A2 - ALOT of ammo, burst(good for sniping), good accuracy.
G3 - accurate(but not before the 3rd shot), small amount of ammo, good sight, (for me it feels more like a sub than a rifle)
F2000 - sexyest sight in the game(lol), enough ammo, accuracy in single shot.
Thats my opinion!
BTW: I never use assault unlocks since I got them, you know why?! AKs are the best guns there is!
not neccisarily true (i know i cant spell ok), they just need a boost IMO the single only thing would be give the G3 more ammo or make the smokes hang around for ages, not asking much and i know EA would not do it because they suck but i would like to see all the assault players get something worthwhile from there kits other than kickass guns, because medic and support can get points in other ways, i.e like revive and heal people.Citizen One wrote:
After reading that, I discoverd two things.JaM3z wrote:
Stuff
1: If the medic had the G3 as an unlock, no one would play assault.
2: If spec ops had flashbangs, no one would play assault.
Snipers can just drop a claymore somewhere and they will get a random kill message then they go lay another one, but assault are just pure ground pounders, thats why we need a worth while upgrade.
Very well put. Assault should have claymores.JaM3z wrote:
Snipers can just drop a claymore somewhere and they will get a random kill message then they go lay another one, but assault are just pure ground pounders, thats why we need a worth while upgrade.Citizen One wrote:
After reading that, I discoverd two things.JaM3z wrote:
Stuff
1: If the medic had the G3 as an unlock, no one would play assault.
2: If spec ops had flashbangs, no one would play assault.
Um, except people like me and the people posting on this thread who LIKE to play as assault? I NEVER play with the F2000 (bc IMO it's a cheap piece of shit) or the G3.Citizen One wrote:
After reading that, I discoverd two things.JaM3z wrote:
Stuff
1: If the medic had the G3 as an unlock, no one would play assault.
2: If spec ops had flashbangs, no one would play assault.
I like to play assault because it's different. Everyone who plays the other kits and thinks their hotshit thinks Assault players are noobs, but that's a myth. In fact, most players who play as Assault are good players.
I think instead of asking "Why doesn't assault get more points?!?!11" we should be asking "Why do Medics/Support get more points?"
Well, for one thing, I think EA ought to take out the Medics ability to heal himself, his grenades, and finally, the big one, swap the G3 and G36e, and add the AG-36 GL for the G36e. I believe that would seriously increase the balance in the game. You'd have all the G36e whores and the medic revive farmers crying their asses off at EA, but I'd be laughing, actually. Even though the G3 is still really, REALLY good, I think that it would be a fair trade for the G36e, especially because Assault needs it desperately. (it= a well balanced weapon with at least 30 rounds of ammo). If that's too much, at the very, VERY least, decrease the revive bonus to 1, instead of 2.
As for support? meh, it's fine the way it is now.
Last edited by Spearhead (2006-05-06 07:34:11)
A medic gets more points because he has a job to do, healing and reviving teamates, and at the same time has less armor. Assault dont do jack other than run around killing people and on occasion cap a flag, only to be owned half way. Support get more points because they give amo to assault lammers such as yourself, how many times for example, have you been running around killing people only to be greeted with a clicking noise at the lack of amo you have? You scream "I NEED AMO" but not a single support is anywhere to be seen, you are owned shortly after.Spearhead wrote:
I think instead of asking "Why doesn't assault get more points?!?!11" we should be asking "Why do Medics/Support get more points?"
LMFAO, An assault with the G36E? That is as dumb as giving the engineer Anti Tank rockets and amo bags. Can you imagine! I mean it's bad enough when a medic wields one, at least you can kill him fairly quickly, but giving it to a class with full armor? that's insanity! Same with giving a G3 to the medic, although that would rock, its still dumb, it would make the medic unstoppable!Spearhead wrote:
Well, for one thing, I think EA ought to take out the Medics ability to heal himself, his grenades, and finally, the big one, swap the G3 and G36e, and add the AG-36 GL for the G36e. I believe that would seriously increase the balance in the game.
In conclusion, the game is fine the way it is now, some guns are too powerfull, yes indeed, but all Dice needs to do is nerf them, simple as that.
I think you have lost your mind somewhere in your scope. What are you talking about? Running around killing people and capping flags is bad? The support guys and medics get a lot of their points from "assault lamers" as you call them. But what the hell do you know anway, you haven't played shit except sniper.Citizen One wrote:
A medic gets more points because he has a job to do, healing and reviving teamates, and at the same time has less armor. Assault dont do jack other than run around killing people and on occasion cap a flag, only to be owned half way. Support get more points because they give amo to assault lammers such as yourself, how many times for example, have you been running around killing people only to be greeted with a clicking noise at the lack of amo you have? You scream "I NEED AMO" but not a single support is anywhere to be seen, you are owned shortly after.Spearhead wrote:
I think instead of asking "Why doesn't assault get more points?!?!11" we should be asking "Why do Medics/Support get more points?"LMFAO, An assault with the G36E? That is as dumb as giving the engineer Anti Tank rockets and amo bags. Can you imagine! I mean it's bad enough when a medic wields one, at least you can kill him fairly quickly, but giving it to a class with full armor? that's insanity! Same with giving a G3 to the medic, although that would rock, its still dumb, it would make the medic unstoppable!Spearhead wrote:
Well, for one thing, I think EA ought to take out the Medics ability to heal himself, his grenades, and finally, the big one, swap the G3 and G36e, and add the AG-36 GL for the G36e. I believe that would seriously increase the balance in the game.
In conclusion, the game is fine the way it is now, some guns are too powerfull, yes indeed, but all Dice needs to do is nerf them, simple as that.
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Yeah i agree with that 100% except dont give the medics the G3 give them that F2000 pile of shite, medics have a great gun atm and thats why people choose the class, it wouldnt bother me if they actually revived or healed anyone, but instead they just run around not doing there job.Spearhead wrote:
Um, except people like me and the people posting on this thread who LIKE to play as assault? I NEVER play with the F2000 (bc IMO it's a cheap piece of shit) or the G3.Citizen One wrote:
After reading that, I discoverd two things.JaM3z wrote:
Stuff
1: If the medic had the G3 as an unlock, no one would play assault.
2: If spec ops had flashbangs, no one would play assault.
I like to play assault because it's different. Everyone who plays the other kits and thinks their hotshit thinks Assault players are noobs, but that's a myth. In fact, most players who play as Assault are good players.
I think instead of asking "Why doesn't assault get more points?!?!11" we should be asking "Why do Medics/Support get more points?"
Well, for one thing, I think EA ought to take out the Medics ability to heal himself, his grenades, and finally, the big one, swap the G3 and G36e, and add the AG-36 GL for the G36e. I believe that would seriously increase the balance in the game. You'd have all the G36e whores and the medic revive farmers crying their asses off at EA, but I'd be laughing, actually. Even though the G3 is still really, REALLY good, I think that it would be a fair trade for the G36e, especially because Assault needs it desperately. (it= a well balanced weapon with at least 30 rounds of ammo). If that's too much, at the very, VERY least, decrease the revive bonus to 1, instead of 2.
As for support? meh, it's fine the way it is now.
or when they do revive you its infront of a tank only to be wasted again
You know JaM3z ans Spearhead, I don't get Citizen One/Two, or people like her. They speak like assault is running around like a bunch of retards chasing a bouncy ball. Now step out of the game for a second, and you real see that squads are mostly made up of assault weapons, not snipers or three medics or whatever. Now back to the game, if a squad was set up with three assault, one medic, and one support, it would do better than people think. I know people have opinions, but when they are without any back-up it is just plain stupid. Someone says assault is useless and yet the played it just for a couple hours.
The only fix assault needs is the old grenade launcher. (not jump shoot) The Operation Peacekeeper mod does this and assault is very good.
yeah i agree i think citizen should play the assault kit for a few more hours and ground pound with us, instead of headshotting the rest of the world, the assault class is great and brings a great feel to the game when you end up with a round KDR of 32:1, i know you can achieve this as a sniper but its so much more satisfying to do as the assault class. If i wasnt going for expert spec ops i would play it more often i userally do 2rounds spec ops 1 round assault now.usmarine2005 wrote:
You know JaM3z ans Spearhead, I don't get Citizen One/Two, or people like her. They speak like assault is running around like a bunch of retards chasing a bouncy ball. Now step out of the game for a second, and you real see that squads are mostly made up of assault weapons, not snipers or three medics or whatever. Now back to the game, if a squad was set up with three assault, one medic, and one support, it would do better than people think. I know people have opinions, but when they are without any back-up it is just plain stupid. Someone says assault is useless and yet the played it just for a couple hours.
Seriously what is everyone problem with this class? is it the fact you now cant kill anyone with the Gl because your such a noob, or the fact that you cant go around throwing health/ammo packs everywhere?
usmarine2005: what servers do you play?
Freddyshouse BF2 SF #2 or 24/7 DAY MAPS SF. I play on Freddy even though my ping is a little high because the voice never works on the other one.JaM3z wrote:
yeah i agree i think citizen should play the assault kit for a few more hours and ground pound with us, instead of headshotting the rest of the world, the assault class is great and brings a great feel to the game when you end up with a round KDR of 32:1, i know you can achieve this as a sniper but its so much more satisfying to do as the assault class. If i wasnt going for expert spec ops i would play it more often i userally do 2rounds spec ops 1 round assault now.usmarine2005 wrote:
You know JaM3z ans Spearhead, I don't get Citizen One/Two, or people like her. They speak like assault is running around like a bunch of retards chasing a bouncy ball. Now step out of the game for a second, and you real see that squads are mostly made up of assault weapons, not snipers or three medics or whatever. Now back to the game, if a squad was set up with three assault, one medic, and one support, it would do better than people think. I know people have opinions, but when they are without any back-up it is just plain stupid. Someone says assault is useless and yet the played it just for a couple hours.
Seriously what is everyone problem with this class? is it the fact you now cant kill anyone with the Gl because your such a noob, or the fact that you cant go around throwing health/ammo packs everywhere?
usmarine2005: what servers do you play?
i think assautl is better than sniper thats for shure.. with the g3 even more, its a nice kit i like it. but i miss the grenade laucher that made assault class a legend in previus patches. also i beeing playing REALITY MOD, and assault kit kick ass in there, because you do need the extra armor and granade laucher its very usefull, if you dont want to spend 2x death than alive there you got to play with a tactical aproach so grenade launcher is a nice tool for that.
i find quite fool people who argue that sniper or spec ops.. are better because you can do tactical kills, stealth and smoth.. dhuuu you cand do that with any kit.. its about how you move in the battlefield not about the kit you wear.
i find quite fool people who argue that sniper or spec ops.. are better because you can do tactical kills, stealth and smoth.. dhuuu you cand do that with any kit.. its about how you move in the battlefield not about the kit you wear.
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I can still noob tube, EA can't stop the champ.
usmarine, got a IP?
and yeah assault is better than sniper
and yeah assault is better than sniper
Not with me, I am still at work for another three hours.JaM3z wrote:
usmarine, got a IP?
and yeah assault is better than sniper
Love the assault class F2000 is my WOC. I've only started using the other clases because I want the expert badges for them.
You can find me on the Brother In Arms server
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I'll be wearing my [BIA] tags on the server
You can find me on the Brother In Arms server
IP: 85.236.101.49 Port 17167
Its a 64 player server.
I'll be wearing my [BIA] tags on the server
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LOL i try to.. but is not the same.FromTheAshes wrote:
I can still noob tube, EA can't stop the champ.
As said before - the Ak101 is arguably one of the best weapons.
G3- yea it works fantastic, but 20-rd clip hinders capacity to pwnerize
F2000- flashangs are also fabulous, but are worthless when you either=
(a) Flash yourself (AAARRGGHH)
(b) Flash the enemy, but have nobody around to mop up the blind mice.
F2000 has enormous potential, but alas it remains forever untapped.
I think Assault is bashed becuase it doesnt have a distinct capability like the other classes. I do, however, like the idea that assault could sprint and shoot, which would give them some leeway. i mean, seriously, they aren't called ASSAULT for nothing, righT?
G3- yea it works fantastic, but 20-rd clip hinders capacity to pwnerize
F2000- flashangs are also fabulous, but are worthless when you either=
(a) Flash yourself (AAARRGGHH)
(b) Flash the enemy, but have nobody around to mop up the blind mice.
F2000 has enormous potential, but alas it remains forever untapped.
I think Assault is bashed becuase it doesnt have a distinct capability like the other classes. I do, however, like the idea that assault could sprint and shoot, which would give them some leeway. i mean, seriously, they aren't called ASSAULT for nothing, righT?
Assault lamers? You, IMO, are a disgrace to the BF2 community. I could own your ass any day with any gun, ESPECIALLY an M16. I'd love to see your face when I snipe you from 200 m with an assault rifle.Citizen One wrote:
A medic gets more points because he has a job to do, healing and reviving teamates, and at the same time has less armor. Assault dont do jack other than run around killing people and on occasion cap a flag, only to be owned half way. Support get more points because they give amo to assault lammers such as yourself, how many times for example, have you been running around killing people only to be greeted with a clicking noise at the lack of amo you have? You scream "I NEED AMO" but not a single support is anywhere to be seen, you are owned shortly after.Spearhead wrote:
I think instead of asking "Why doesn't assault get more points?!?!11" we should be asking "Why do Medics/Support get more points?"LMFAO, An assault with the G36E? That is as dumb as giving the engineer Anti Tank rockets and amo bags. Can you imagine! I mean it's bad enough when a medic wields one, at least you can kill him fairly quickly, but giving it to a class with full armor? that's insanity! Same with giving a G3 to the medic, although that would rock, its still dumb, it would make the medic unstoppable!Spearhead wrote:
Well, for one thing, I think EA ought to take out the Medics ability to heal himself, his grenades, and finally, the big one, swap the G3 and G36e, and add the AG-36 GL for the G36e. I believe that would seriously increase the balance in the game.
In conclusion, the game is fine the way it is now, some guns are too powerfull, yes indeed, but all Dice needs to do is nerf them, simple as that.
The medic kit, ya right. Half of the medic players wouldn't give a rats ass about reviving team mates if they didn't get 2 points for it. Then, on top of allowing blatant and obvious medic point farming, EA gives the medic class a better assault rifle unlock than the assault class unlocks. You, Citizen One, have no sense of balance whatsoever.
For your fucking info, http://bf2s.com/player/48591541/ those are my stats.
I have played for hours upon hours with the medic kit (and ALL of the other kits too, dickhead), and in my eyes it is point farming, when a pussy medic runs around for the entire game, getting revives, while an honest hard working assault player is getting about half the points. You say Medic is at a disadvantage because it doesn't have body armor? LMFAO, you need a reality check. Medics can heal everyone around them, including themselves, my friend. They have, theoretically, INFINITE health.
Last time I checked, Citizen One, all of the kits had a purpose. Giving the G36e to the Assault class would be the greatest thing EA has ever done. Last time I checked, Assault was supposed to be the best infantry class there is.
Last edited by Spearhead (2006-05-06 12:35:14)
I think someone just got owned.
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