Overseas to where? In terms of taxes and other burdens you have to pay the U.S. is one of the lowest i the world ljaralsflsaflksdfkhskldfsdJohnG@lt wrote:
Frankly, if I was running a business today I would be looking for any way that I could to escape overseas.
Macbeth wrote:
Overseas to where? In terms of taxes and other burdens you have to pay the U.S. is one of the lowest i the world ljaralsflsaflksdfkhskldfsdJohnG@lt wrote:
Frankly, if I was running a business today I would be looking for any way that I could to escape overseas.
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I meant in total...so yeah enjoy a VAT and nice heavy personal income tax if you move over to Europe.JohnG@lt wrote:
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Overseas to where? In terms of taxes and other burdens you have to pay the U.S. is one of the lowest i the world ljaralsflsaflksdfkhskldfsdJohnG@lt wrote:
Frankly, if I was running a business today I would be looking for any way that I could to escape overseas.
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2nd highest corporate tax rate in the world baby.
I dunno, it doesn't say.Spark wrote:
Why do us and the Brits have asterisks?
Who said anything about Europe? I'd base my company out of the Cayman Islands or something.Macbeth wrote:
I meant in total...so yeah enjoy a VAT and nice heavy personal income tax if you move over to Europe.JohnG@lt wrote:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … ry.svg.pngMacbeth wrote:
Overseas to where? In terms of taxes and other burdens you have to pay the U.S. is one of the lowest i the world ljaralsflsaflksdfkhskldfsd
THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING
2nd highest corporate tax rate in the world baby.
I'm just tired of all this 'THE ECONOMY IS CRASHING ZOMG'.
Well you'll still get hit with U.S. income taxes and whatever business your does in the U.S. gets taxed to a degree.JohnG@lt wrote:
Who said anything about Europe? I'd base my company out of the Cayman Islands or something.Macbeth wrote:
I meant in total...so yeah enjoy a VAT and nice heavy personal income tax if you move over to Europe.JohnG@lt wrote:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … ry.svg.png
2nd highest corporate tax rate in the world baby.
I'm just tired of all this 'THE ECONOMY IS CRASHING ZOMG'.
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Right. Because wanting to keep more of what you earn is terrible. Weren't you just on here a few short weeks ago exclaiming that you want to keep what you kill?Macbeth wrote:
Well you'll still get hit with U.S. income taxes and whatever business your does in the U.S. gets taxed to a degree.JohnG@lt wrote:
Who said anything about Europe? I'd base my company out of the Cayman Islands or something.Macbeth wrote:
I meant in total...so yeah enjoy a VAT and nice heavy personal income tax if you move over to Europe.
I'm just tired of all this 'THE ECONOMY IS CRASHING ZOMG'.
This, I'm leaving/omving my company because of taxes!!!! Seems like such an alarmist, reactionary thought/statement.
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I'm saying it's a reactionary thought. An irrational emotional driven idea. It has nothing to do with keeping what you earn.JohnG@lt wrote:
Right. Because wanting to keep more of what you earn is terrible. Weren't you just on here a few short weeks ago exclaiming that you want to keep what you kill?Macbeth wrote:
Well you'll still get hit with U.S. income taxes and whatever business your does in the U.S. gets taxed to a degree.JohnG@lt wrote:
Who said anything about Europe? I'd base my company out of the Cayman Islands or something.
This, I'm leaving/omving my company because of taxes!!!! Seems like such an alarmist, reactionary thought/statement.
Like kitty stompers.Macbeth wrote:
I'm saying it's a reactionary thought. An irrational emotional driven idea. It has nothing to do with keeping what you earn.JohnG@lt wrote:
Right. Because wanting to keep more of what you earn is terrible. Weren't you just on here a few short weeks ago exclaiming that you want to keep what you kill?Macbeth wrote:
Well you'll still get hit with U.S. income taxes and whatever business your does in the U.S. gets taxed to a degree.
This, I'm leaving/omving my company because of taxes!!!! Seems like such an alarmist, reactionary thought/statement.
Like I said before, I'm tired of all of this paranoid crap coming from everyone. Humanity has dealt with worst.
or he can immigrate to another country, apply for PR, later becoming a citizen and denounce US citizenship and don't have to pay federal taxes anymore.Macbeth wrote:
Well you'll still get hit with U.S. income taxes and whatever business your does in the U.S. gets taxed to a degree.JohnG@lt wrote:
Who said anything about Europe? I'd base my company out of the Cayman Islands or something.Macbeth wrote:
I meant in total...so yeah enjoy a VAT and nice heavy personal income tax if you move over to Europe.
I'm just tired of all this 'THE ECONOMY IS CRASHING ZOMG'.
no, it's not. but it is a good excuse right now. why would businesses expand and hire when the customers don't exist?JohnG@lt wrote:
No, it's uncertainty about health insurance coverage, tax increases, new financial regulations and the looming threat of cap and trade. You're right that people are paying down debt right now but the other stuff isn't just talking points for the right, the fear and uncertainty that those bills have created has definitely lengthened the recovery as businesses digest it and wait for the other shoe to drop. They're scared.
Frankly, if I was running a business today I would be looking for any way that I could to escape overseas. Getting stuck paying for my employees kids healthcare until they're 25 is absofuckinglutely ridiculous.
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I take that as "damn it, you win again Macbeth" since the last time we went down this line of discussion FM had to come along and explain to you the definition of paradox.JohnG@lt wrote:
Like kitty stompers.Macbeth wrote:
I'm saying it's a reactionary thought. An irrational emotional driven idea. It has nothing to do with keeping what you earn.JohnG@lt wrote:
Right. Because wanting to keep more of what you earn is terrible. Weren't you just on here a few short weeks ago exclaiming that you want to keep what you kill?
Like I said before, I'm tired of all of this paranoid crap coming from everyone. Humanity has dealt with worst.
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I know. I just find it pretty irrational to give up citizenship in your birth country to escape some taxes.Cybargs wrote:
or he can immigrate to another country, apply for PR, later becoming a citizen and denounce US citizenship and don't have to pay federal taxes anymore.Macbeth wrote:
Well you'll still get hit with U.S. income taxes and whatever business your does in the U.S. gets taxed to a degree.JohnG@lt wrote:
Who said anything about Europe? I'd base my company out of the Cayman Islands or something.
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Nah, you're wrong. Plenty of people have fled their country of origin for a multitude of reasons over the centuries. Why did your parents or grandparents come here? Work I assume. Mine came here to escape Europe. Leaving because of a crushing tax burden is as good as any other reason.Macbeth wrote:
I take that as "damn it, you win again Macbeth" since the last time we went down this line of discussion FM had to come along and explain to you the definition of paradox.JohnG@lt wrote:
Like kitty stompers.Macbeth wrote:
I'm saying it's a reactionary thought. An irrational emotional driven idea. It has nothing to do with keeping what you earn.
Like I said before, I'm tired of all of this paranoid crap coming from everyone. Humanity has dealt with worst.
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only thing nice about living abroad with US citizenship is embassy help. Actually it's nice to be a commonwealth citizen too (i can use any embassy of commonwealth countries and get "free" health care in any commonwealth country )Macbeth wrote:
I know. I just find it pretty irrational to give up citizenship in your birth country to escape some taxes.Cybargs wrote:
or he can immigrate to another country, apply for PR, later becoming a citizen and denounce US citizenship and don't have to pay federal taxes anymore.Macbeth wrote:
Well you'll still get hit with U.S. income taxes and whatever business your does in the U.S. gets taxed to a degree.
All a recession is, is a crisis of confidence. People don't feel confident that things are going to get better, that they don't have to worry about losing their job next week, and that it's safe to spend money. Confidence requires stability and this administration has provided none of it since taking office.Reciprocity wrote:
no, it's not. but it is a good excuse right now. why would businesses expand and hire when the customers don't exist?JohnG@lt wrote:
No, it's uncertainty about health insurance coverage, tax increases, new financial regulations and the looming threat of cap and trade. You're right that people are paying down debt right now but the other stuff isn't just talking points for the right, the fear and uncertainty that those bills have created has definitely lengthened the recovery as businesses digest it and wait for the other shoe to drop. They're scared.
Frankly, if I was running a business today I would be looking for any way that I could to escape overseas. Getting stuck paying for my employees kids healthcare until they're 25 is absofuckinglutely ridiculous.
It's not really a crushing tax burden. An annoyance sure but not a crushing burden.JohnG@lt wrote:
Nah, you're wrong. Plenty of people have fled their country of origin for a multitude of reasons over the centuries. Why did your parents or grandparents come here? Work I assume. Mine came here to escape Europe. Leaving because of a crushing tax burden is as good as any other reason.Macbeth wrote:
I take that as "damn it, you win again Macbeth" since the last time we went down this line of discussion FM had to come along and explain to you the definition of paradox.JohnG@lt wrote:
Like kitty stompers.
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people aren't confident enough in the economy to rack up unsustainable credit card debt and borrow against their house for that sweet set of jet skis? sounds good to me.JohnG@lt wrote:
All a recession is, is a crisis of confidence. People don't feel confident that things are going to get better, that they don't have to worry about losing their job next week, and that it's safe to spend money. Confidence requires stability and this administration has provided none of it since taking office.
heh a lot of dual citizens usually give up US citizenship. sometimes theres really no point in having it... especially if you have commonwealth or EU based citizenship.Macbeth wrote:
It's not really a crushing tax burden. An annoyance sure but not a crushing burden.JohnG@lt wrote:
Nah, you're wrong. Plenty of people have fled their country of origin for a multitude of reasons over the centuries. Why did your parents or grandparents come here? Work I assume. Mine came here to escape Europe. Leaving because of a crushing tax burden is as good as any other reason.Macbeth wrote:
I take that as "damn it, you win again Macbeth" since the last time we went down this line of discussion FM had to come along and explain to you the definition of paradox.
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 5#p2977025
And yes you can go live somewhere else but there are things you are going to have to give up or other things you are going to have to put up with if you leave. For that reason, it doesn't make a lot of sense to give up being a U.S. citizen to escape a slight tax increase.
I know, I was the one who made the thread about people giving up their citizenship not too long ago.Cybargs wrote:
heh a lot of dual citizens usually give up US citizenship. sometimes theres really no point in having it... especially if you have commonwealth or EU based citizenship.Macbeth wrote:
It's not really a crushing tax burden. An annoyance sure but not a crushing burden.JohnG@lt wrote:
Nah, you're wrong. Plenty of people have fled their country of origin for a multitude of reasons over the centuries. Why did your parents or grandparents come here? Work I assume. Mine came here to escape Europe. Leaving because of a crushing tax burden is as good as any other reason.
And yes you can go live somewhere else but there are things you are going to have to give up or other things you are going to have to put up with if you leave. For that reason, it doesn't make a lot of sense to give up being a U.S. citizen to escape a slight tax increase.
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Yes, we should stay in a permanent recession because people are too stupid to care for their financesReciprocity wrote:
people aren't confident enough in the economy to rack up unsustainable credit card debt and borrow against their house for that sweet set of jet skis? sounds good to me.JohnG@lt wrote:
All a recession is, is a crisis of confidence. People don't feel confident that things are going to get better, that they don't have to worry about losing their job next week, and that it's safe to spend money. Confidence requires stability and this administration has provided none of it since taking office.
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If our recession is business as usual in your country you should drop some of the socialism and regulations on businessDilbert_X wrote:
Recession for the US is business as usual for the rest of the world.
Your x000 sq ft house hasn't appreciated 20% this year?
You can't afford to trade in your 1 year old SUV for a brand new one?
You're so poor you can only eat out 5 times a week?
Your graphics card is 3 months old and therefore so out of date you want to stick forks in your eyes because you can't upgrade?
Very sorry, time to man up, take off the skirt, grow a moustache and harden the fuck up.
