Harmor
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This should be interesting...I wonder if Obama will sue all 22 states?

Clearly the lingering recession has people realizing that illegals are straining government services.  For example the entire California deficit of $19.1 billion could be at 0 if we didn't have 33% of the illegals in the United States.

Welcome to Mexifornia.
-Sh1fty-
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Send the National Guard down to the border to guard our nation. After the border is secure, deal with the illegals in the country. Whilst doing the latter let Mexicans come in for cheap labor to work, lodge them or whatever, but they do not benefit from the U.S. government, they can work here and earn their money to send home to their families which they return to on weekends.

I think what I said is plausible in the long run, of course it won't work perfectly but it's better than the current "System".

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Harmor
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Why should we let illegals or for that matter legal immigrants on work visas work when we have 9.5% umployment?  (17% real unecomployment rate)
Jay
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Harmor wrote:

Why should we let illegals or for that matter legal immigrants on work visas work when we have 9.5% umployment?  (17% real unecomployment rate)
Because the people on unemployment would rather stay on unemployment than do the shitty jobs that the immigrants will do. I don't know many unemployed IT professionals who would be willing to go pick fruit, mow lawns or wash dishes. They're 'too good for that now' and the government, by extending unemployment benefits ad infinetum allows them to keep this false sense of worth.

They're content to sit back, wait for jobs to open up at a wage they feel they are entitled to, and then take it. Nevermind that there are a million other people with their skillset doing the exact same thing which will keep wages down right until that last person decides to get off their ass. It's become a giant game of chicken and the government is funding it.

You keep harping on immigrants as if they are the cause of any of this mess. They're just a fucking scapegoat and nothing more. California is fucked up because of your public service unions, not because of illegals flooding your state. Redirecting your anger elsewhere allows them to continue skullfucking you to death while you're distracted. Your teachers, firefighters, cops, nurses and highway workers are the culprit for your state being near bankruptcy, not the damn illegals.

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To be honest, I'm more afraid of getting car jacked or mugged by a black, white, or hispanic American then I am by a border hopper who wants to make a living.

At work the immigrants who pick up our scrap metal at least offer to pay us, the other american scrappers think they just deserve the metal.

Meh the plight of immigrants doesn't mean much to me anyway though.

Why am I posting like ATG?
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because you wish you were white
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eleven bravo wrote:

because you wish you were white
No, I wish you would fuck off and die though anchorbaby.

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thanks for proving my point.

also

*off

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eleven bravo wrote:

because you wish you were white
macbeth isn't white?
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Cybargs wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

because you wish you were white
macbeth isn't white?
lol.  nope. puerto rican
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Cybargs wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

because you wish you were white
macbeth isn't white?
Nope puerto rican.

The thing with GS is, he thinks since I'm puerto rican I'm supposed to care about whatever happens to other Hispanics and should feel bad for people like him despite the fact we both had very different upbringings and lives.

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eleven bravo
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no, not at all.  i'm just very familiar with the kind of person you have revealed yourself to be.
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Harmor wrote:

Why should we let illegals or for that matter legal immigrants on work visas work when we have 9.5% umployment?  (17% real unecomployment rate)
Are you asking a sincere question or just instigating with bone rhetorical questions?

Legal immigrants begone!
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jord wrote:

Harmor wrote:

Why should we let illegals or for that matter legal immigrants on work visas work when we have 9.5% umployment?  (17% real unecomployment rate)
Are you asking a sincere question or just instigating with bone rhetorical questions?

Legal immigrants begone!
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Macbeth wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

because you wish you were white
macbeth isn't white?
Nope puerto rican.

The thing with GS is, he thinks since I'm puerto rican I'm supposed to care about whatever happens to other Hispanics and should feel bad for people like him despite the fact we both had very different upbringings and lives.
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eleven bravo wrote:

no, not at all.  i'm just very familiar with the kind of person you have revealed yourself to be.
You live in California, I live in NJ. I grew up during the 90's and 2000's, you mostly did during the 80's and 90's.

Whatever you and the other Mexicans experienced out there and how they reacted to it is different from my experience out in NJ and how I reacted to it. Being Puerto Rican out here was never a big issue for me. Sorry for anything that happened during your life but don't take it out on me. You're being a stupid troll.

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Macbeth wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

no, not at all.  i'm just very familiar with the kind of person you have revealed yourself to be.
You live in California, I live in NJ. I grew up during the 90's and 2000's, you mostly did during the 80's and 90's.

Whatever you and the other Mexicans experienced out there and how they reacted to it is different from my experience out in NJ and how I reacted to it. Being Puerto Rican out here was never a big issue for me. Sorry for anything that happened during your life but don't take it out on me. You're being a stupid troll.
GS isn't mexican.
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Macbeth wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

because you wish you were white
macbeth isn't white?
Nope puerto rican.

The thing with GS is, he thinks since I'm puerto rican I'm supposed to care about whatever happens to other Hispanics and should feel bad for people like him despite the fact we both had very different upbringings and lives.
http://comedians.comedycentral.com/carl … ensitivity

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Cybargs wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

no, not at all.  i'm just very familiar with the kind of person you have revealed yourself to be.
You live in California, I live in NJ. I grew up during the 90's and 2000's, you mostly did during the 80's and 90's.

Whatever you and the other Mexicans experienced out there and how they reacted to it is different from my experience out in NJ and how I reacted to it. Being Puerto Rican out here was never a big issue for me. Sorry for anything that happened during your life but don't take it out on me. You're being a stupid troll.
GS isn't mexican.
I know he's Dominican and Nicaraguan, it was a mistake with how I formed the sentence.
Jay
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eleven bravo wrote:

no, not at all.  i'm just very familiar with the kind of person you have revealed yourself to be.
Puerto Rican = batshit crazy. Well, at least the women are...




I have a Puerto Rican aunt
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getting called "wetback" and "anchor baby" and being wished death in iraq 5 years ago from somebody who "wishes he was a vampire", who thinks lisa mendoza is a useless cunt and who admits himself to have no friends or social life really cracks me up
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idiots. lol. 


yes sir, agreed.  I myself hate it whenever I hear "la raza".  To me that is no different than saying "white power" or something corny like that.  There is nothing wrong with identify yourself with a culture and showing pride, but Im under the impression that we are all American and there really should not be any distinction between our ethnic groups and races.  But yes, the root of this issue is the integrity of the American economy and her borders.


if Uncle Sam told me to invade Nicaragua and shoot my cousin, I would have done without hesitation.
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eleven bravo wrote:

getting called "wetback" and "anchor baby" and being wished death in iraq 5 years ago from somebody who "wishes he was a vampire", who thinks lisa mendoza is a useless cunt and who admits himself to have no friends or social life really cracks me up
Yeah after you sent me karma, I sent you those back, so don't try to play innocent. All of my friends are in the military overseas so yeah all of my friends, the people I really care about, aren't in the U.S.

Are you going to comment on what I said or try to bring up more trash?

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my karmas werent insults, they were reflections of how I felt about you.  dont back track on what youve said.  be a man and stand behind it.
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Jay
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But getting back to what I was saying earlier...

The media will never pick on the civil servants I listed and make them the target of your ire. Why? Because we've all got a teacher, or firefighter or cop friend and we've probably listened to them gripe about being underpaid at some point or another. Even if we don't agree with them, we still have a point of reference and if they were targeted by the media, we'd feel some sympathy. On the other hand, if they target a minority group who, let's face it, we don't have a lot of social interaction or mingling with, it's easier to get upset and channel our anger in that direction. It's much easier to heap hate and blame on a people that we aren't close to.

This plays on the human instinct to fear the unknown. We're all afraid of what we don't understand or haven't experienced before. Some of us counter that with bravado, and some of us counter that with anger and indignation, and still others of us cringe from it. Whatever the reaction is, it's natural. Minority groups, especially ones that don't share our customs and language have always been easy targets throughout human history. Whether it's Jews or Gypsies in Europe with their strange customs and religions, or Italian immigrants at the beginning of the last century here in America, the story is always the same. You get a bunch of poor ignorant and angry peasants together, stick an eloquent speaker in front of them, and have yourself a pogrom. There, now instead of directing their anger at the establishment, or that noble who stole the fall's harvest and sold it off to buy himself a new warhorse, they've channeled and redirected that anger elsewhere. They'll blame the greedy Jew or the thieving Gypsies, or the hospital system abusing illegal immigrants.

What the media does is to simply get people angry about an issue, keep feeding their anger, give them a shoulder to cry on, and pray that it doesn't blow up in their face if they're ever found out. It's called hooking an audience. They don't have to be truthful, they don't have to be sincere, they just have to do whatever it takes to sell ratings. Fox happens to have the anger card down pat. MSNBC does the same with indignation. Either way, they all play on emotion in order to keep you from changing that channel.

If you've read all this, take a second and go back and read what my original post was now.
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