Islamists using US video games in youth appeal

2006-05-04 17:00:25

#1

G3|Genius: Pope of BF2s; +355|6865|Sea to globally-cooled sea

((I originally posted this in the BF2 chatter area but realized this post would probably reach more the demographic I want to reach in this forum. So if you recognize it is a copied post, it's because it is, but I copied it from myself.))

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060504/us_ … games_dc_4

WOW.

the irony is, they're going to blame the game, they're gonna blame you and me for playing the game, but they will not blame those whacked out Muslims extremists for doing this. Mark my words.

GOD things like this enfuriates me.

to those of you who do not think this war is a good one--our enemy is twisted. This is proof. Our beloved BF2 is a game and we have fun. They are using this to train children???????

HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY think that there is any way to persuade people like this with words??

[edited to fix broken link]

Last edited by G3|Genius (2006-05-04 17:02:28)

2006-05-04 17:48:11

#2

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|7011|PNW

A screenshot shows a video gamer playing the role of a special forces soldier in a first-person shooter game. The makers of combat video games have unwittingly become part of a global propaganda campaign by Islamic militants to exhort Muslim youths to take up arms against the United States, officials said on Thursday. (UbiSoft/Handout/Reuters)

Which is really no different than claims that said combat games have unwittingly become part of military recruiting campaigns. "Uh, yeah. So I joined the Navy because I played Delta Force 2."

Critics of the U.S. video game industry have long blamed the products for violence among American teenagers in civilian society, including high-profile shootings at public schools.

SAIC executive Eric Michael said researchers suspect Islamic militants are using video games to train recruits and condition youth to attack U.S.-led coalition forces in Iraq.

All this amounts to is yet more political finger-pointing and blame-throwing. Pretty soon, it'll be GTA's fault that terrorists crashed into the World Trade Center, and Doom's fault that the US nuked Japan.

That being said, violent media can influence the weak minded, but sources are by no means confined to games. Watching a man's head being sawn off on video had more impact on me than a lifetime of violent video games, and seeing dead bodies resultant of a serial killer's whim on news channels is much more disturbing than watching pixellated kneecaps being blown off in Soldier of Fortune (PC).

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-05-04 17:53:28)

2006-05-04 18:00:55

#3

xintegrityx: set your body ablaze; +37|6968|Louisiana

Then came a recording of President George W. Bush's September 16, 2001, statement: "This crusade, this war on terrorism, is going to take a while." It was edited to repeat the word "crusade," which Muslims often define as an attack on Islam by Christianity.

Who didn't see that coming? I knew that quote would create a shitstorm the instant I heard it.

2006-05-04 18:21:48

#4

IronFerret: Member; +48|6896|Mexico City.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The makers of combat video games have unwittingly become part of a global propaganda campaign by Islamic militants to exhort Muslim youths to take up arms against the United States, officials said on Thursday.

LOL what if we put it this way:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The makers of combat video games have unwittingly become part of a global propaganda campaign by US Army to exhort youth americans to take up arms against the Islamic militants, officials said on Thursday.

then it would be ok.. like AA(american army) video game.

Last edited by IronFerret (2006-05-04 18:22:44)

2006-05-04 18:27:00

#5

Lurch_454: Member; +5|6844

Ya know, I get the felling that we (as gamers) will never hear the end of it now. Of course, con' can't out right ban games, I'm pretty sure that could hurt the economic system in some way, shape, or form. That and that could be considered to be screwing around with the 2nd amendment, maybe.

2006-05-04 18:31:14

#6

Catbox: forgiveness; +505|6956

the article said the kids are signing up... and SAIC is monitoring these militant sites... now they know the names and maybe the addresses of these future terrorists... really smart...lol bunch of dumbass terrorists...

Love is the answer

2006-05-04 18:31:58

#7

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|7011|PNW

Lurch_454 wrote:
That and that could be considered to be screwing around with the 2nd amendment, maybe.

I'm not sure the right to keep and bear arms falls in with the right to own and play video games.

2006-05-04 18:37:00

#8

k1LLr_M: Prone to Own; +118|6833|Houston, TX

2nd amendment protects the right to bear arms, not bear violent video games.
However....

The 4th Amendment wrote:
The rights of the people to be secure...against unreasonable searches and seizures...

They can't take my BF2 away!!! Don't let them, no matter what happens! Fight as if your life depends on it, even though it doesn't even come close to depending on it

2006-05-04 20:55:04

#9

skratch-x: Member; +25|6876|NY, USA

G3|Genius wrote:
to those of you who do not think this war is a good one--our enemy is twisted. This is proof. Our beloved BF2 is a game and we have fun. They are using this to train children???????

HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY think that there is any way to persuade people like this with words??

[edited to fix broken link]

I haven't read the article (not to overshare, but I'm holding in a poop and just wanted to reply to this quickly), but I'll just say this:

I bet it's really dumb / terrible what "they're" doing, but "they" aren't every single person in the Middle East, or even close to that. Maybe it wasn't your intention, but please please please don't blanket Middle Easterners as "those people" because of shit like this.

2006-05-04 21:44:39

#10

Tagmaestro: Member; +6|6944|New Jersey

If the game, or mod in this case, is fun, I'll play it.

We all know it's literally impossible to train someone in a game. It's possible in a simulator, but not a game. What they've done is made a game.

2006-05-04 22:01:53

#11

VspyVspy: Sniper; +183|6912|A sunburnt country

Shit, lets ban the game and everything else whilst we are at it!!!!!!!!!!

I heard that some extreme terrorist groups breath air, so lets ban that too, whilst we are at it, lets ban food because I am sure terrorists eat as well and as for water....................ban it!!!!

Man it shits me when people try to take our fun away with some lame arse argument.........phew....that feels better.......now if only I hadn't of banned air I could take a deep breath.

2006-05-04 22:36:16

#12

BVC: Member; +325|6935

Oh for fucks sake! Way to give gaming a bad name...damned terrorists, they probably use wallhacks and aimbots anyway

2006-05-04 22:36:28

#13

Coolbeano: Level 13.5 BF2S Ninja Penguin Sensei; +378|7003

Article wrote:
"I was just a boy when the infidels came to my village in Blackhawk helicopters," a narrator's voice said as the screen flashed between images of street-level gunfights, explosions and helicopter assaults.

Obviously whoever wrote the article has not seen Team America, it looks like he's blaming whoever made the video for saying it.

2006-05-05 04:51:30

#14

k1LLr_M: Prone to Own; +118|6833|Houston, TX

Pubic wrote:
Oh for fucks sake! Way to give gaming a bad name...damned terrorists, they probably use wallhacks and aimbots anyway

lol, then they come at the real US army like, WTF!!?? why can't I hit them, and, d00d my grenade just bounced off the wall!!

2006-05-05 04:59:32

#15

LordDragonclaw: RPK-74 Whore; +26|6822

I really think that the fanatical anti-gaming retards are going to jump on this like a bunch of idiots and try to get BF2 banned like GTA. Pretty soon if that happens theyll ban every FPS game on the market and then go on to ban every RTS, RPG, and any other game that a 3 year old couldnt play. These anti gaming critics are worse than the terrorists using the game for training because the critics live here and can cocksuck their way along and finally try and get the game banned from shelves.

2006-05-05 05:01:21

#16

mikkel: Member; +383|6841

G3|Genius wrote:
to those of you who do not think this war is a good one--our enemy is twisted. This is proof. Our beloved BF2 is a game and we have fun. They are using this to train children???????

HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY think that there is any way to persuade people like this with words??

[edited to fix broken link]

America's Army++

2006-05-05 06:47:11

#17

Agent_Dung_Bomb: Member; +302|6975|Salt Lake City

I haven't read the article, but what I want to know is if the Islamic militants are restricting the game play to spec-ops only, in preparation for a suicide bombing?

2006-05-05 06:54:49

#18

WilhelmSissener: Banned; +557|6973|Oslo, Norway

WilhelmSissener wrote:

2006-05-05 07:09:53

#19

Horseman 77: Banned; +160|7077

The CIA should hire a Kik ass Clan to Own them in Game after game.

2006-05-05 07:29:08

#20

Sh1fty2k5: MacSwedish; +113|6949|Sweden

poor americans, you soon won't be able to play video games because the republicans are too afraid to let them loose in the hands of youngsters. Thank god for the freedom of speech that we have over here. I'll let you guys download games from my DC++ hub ok?

2006-05-05 07:44:56

#21

Erkut.hv: Member; +124|6974|California

Sh1fty2k5 wrote:
poor americans, you soon won't be able to play video games because the republicans are too afraid to let them loose in the hands of youngsters. Thank god for the freedom of speech that we have over here. I'll let you guys download games from my DC++ hub ok?

Not for nothing, but Tipper Gore (democrat witch), was one of the biggest haters of free speech out there.

2006-05-05 07:50:48

#22

Horseman 77: Banned; +160|7077

Sh1fty2k5 wrote:
poor americans, you soon won't be able to play video games because the republicans are too afraid to let them loose in the hands of youngsters. Thank god for the freedom of speech that we have over here. I'll let you guys download games from my DC++ hub ok?

Being that " We " weren't Naive enough to let our Government Disarm us, My bet is You will Loose PC games before we do, I still wouldn't trade places with you anyway anytime For anything, Come what may. Cool country though from what I have seen of it.

Last edited by Horseman 77 (2006-05-05 08:00:46)

2006-05-05 13:20:21

#23

UON: Junglist Massive; +223|6893

Where do I get this mod? I want to see it before I comment on it.

2006-05-05 15:08:56

#24

k1LLr_M: Prone to Own; +118|6833|Houston, TX

Sh1fty2k5 wrote:
poor americans, you soon won't be able to play video games because the republicans are too afraid to let them loose in the hands of youngsters. Thank god for the freedom of speech that we have over here. I'll let you guys download games from my DC++ hub ok?

yeah, sweden sounds like a pretty good country if things go sour over here. either sweden or new zealand

2006-05-05 15:45:12

#25

UON: Junglist Massive; +223|6893

Damn, the 'officials' who make up the news these days are so fucking stupid. Sorry, but sampling a comedy movie (Team America) and making a bf2 vid out of it is not directly recruiting Islamic terrorists. And I expect they say the 'kids as young as 7' bit because they know that's how young some of the players in America are... this cracks me up, a news article about propaganda which is so clearly and transparently propaganda itself.... fuck, the guy who wrote this trash is a true master of irony.

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