So ahhhhh let me guess, this is your argument why private citizens should not be allowed to defend themselves and their homes?Bertster7 wrote:
On the other hand they now know which houses have guns in them and so know where to go if they want to steal a gun.lowing wrote:
good, so every bad guy has a list of houses NOT to invade for fear of getting shot. They now know where to go for easy pickings, the houses that deplore guns and champion the rights of criminals.
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It works both ways. Some people see it as a tool for criminals to see who's packing, others see it as a tool for concerned families to see who's packing. Depends on which side of the fence you are on. The US is a place saturated with firearms, is it wrong for someone to therefore want to live in an area where they are reduced, for whatever reason. Don't deny some people the peace of mind or whatever they want, of course most people would rather label those people as criminals who want easy targets.
Really stupid, the american gun argument.
Really stupid, the american gun argument.
Except this circumvents the point of a conceal permit by undermining the element of not knowing if a person is armedor not (which is a great crime deterrent).
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
But, upon realizing that there are already far too many guns present (both legal and illegal) in America to ever realistically hope to control guns, it actually makes far more sense to continue providing a legal and open means for people to have guns.Mekstizzle wrote:
It works both ways. Some people see it as a tool for criminals to see who's packing, others see it as a tool for concerned families to see who's packing. Depends on which side of the fence you are on. The US is a place saturated with firearms, is it wrong for someone to therefore want to live in an area where they are reduced, for whatever reason. Don't deny some people the peace of mind or whatever they want, of course most people would rather label those people as criminals who want easy targets.
Really stupid, the american gun argument.
The point is... any attempt to control guns at this point in America inevitably hurts law abiding citizens more than it hurts criminals.
That simple fact is something that this Jewish lawyer apparently doesn't realize or doesn't care about. He's not really doing this for the sake of making his city safer -- he's just doing it for his own ego and paranoia.
It's an argument for why the list should not be public record.lowing wrote:
So ahhhhh let me guess, this is your argument why private citizens should not be allowed to defend themselves and their homes?Bertster7 wrote:
On the other hand they now know which houses have guns in them and so know where to go if they want to steal a gun.lowing wrote:
good, so every bad guy has a list of houses NOT to invade for fear of getting shot. They now know where to go for easy pickings, the houses that deplore guns and champion the rights of criminals.
Well, only if they have some aversion to being shot by handguns. :plowing wrote:
good, so every bad guy has a list of houses NOT to invade for fear of getting shot. They now know where to go for easy pickings, the houses that deplore guns and champion the rights of criminals.
It is the pistol permit list, and does not include rifles, shotguns, etc...
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I have a shotgun
Tu Stultus Es
As do I, but it's locked up in a closet so it's not very convenient for home defense...loleleven bravo wrote:
I have a shotgun
its nearly impossible to get a conceal permit in los angeles county
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I looked into getting a pistol permit in Monroe county of NY, but I was going to be looking at over a year for the processing. To complicate things, I went to college here (all my friends left town), so I didn't know enough people who still lived here for the 3+ years required. And I know I would have been denied a CCW permit regardless.eleven bravo wrote:
its nearly impossible to get a conceal permit in los angeles county
18" barrel and 00 buckSenorToenails wrote:
As do I, but it's locked up in a closet so it's not very convenient for home defense...loleleven bravo wrote:
I have a shotgun
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
You like to leave an impression, eh?JohnG@lt wrote:
18" barrel and 00 buckSenorToenails wrote:
As do I, but it's locked up in a closet so it's not very convenient for home defense...loleleven bravo wrote:
I have a shotgun
Tu Stultus Es
The buck won't travel through walls, but it will kill if it connects. If you're going to pull the trigger, the object is not to wound, it is to kill.SenorToenails wrote:
You like to leave an impression, eh?JohnG@lt wrote:
18" barrel and 00 buckSenorToenails wrote:
As do I, but it's locked up in a closet so it's not very convenient for home defense...lol
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
what kind of adamantium walls are you living with
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Try #4 buck, I believe it was designed as an urban HD round.JohnG@lt wrote:
The buck won't travel through walls, but it will kill if it connects. If you're going to pull the trigger, the object is not to wound, it is to kill.SenorToenails wrote:
You like to leave an impression, eh?JohnG@lt wrote:
18" barrel and 00 buck
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot3.htm <------------ Testing of shells v. drywall
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I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
my walls are drywall and wood and if I ever fired my weapon inside the house id be terrified of hitting one of my neighbors kids
Tu Stultus Es
Unpack the shells and repack them with rock salt and toilet paper. I use prefragged ammo in the casa. Magsafeeleven bravo wrote:
my walls are drywall and wood and if I ever fired my weapon inside the house id be terrified of hitting one of my neighbors kids
Yea... I was kidding about the rocksalt and tp
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I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
thats terrible for the shotgun though.DBBrinson1 wrote:
Unpack the shells and repack them with rock salt and toilet paper. I use prefragged ammo in the casa. Magsafeeleven bravo wrote:
my walls are drywall and wood and if I ever fired my weapon inside the house id be terrified of hitting one of my neighbors kids
Ill just aim at the head instead of center mass
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yea... and use #4 buckshot.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Can you get flechette darts in a shell for a shotgun?
/gun noob
/gun noob
I think that's a state issue. I like the "dragon's breath" rounds.Surgeons wrote:
Can you get flechette darts in a shell for a shotgun?
/gun noob
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
I wasn't bothered about the legalities of it, but you can?
Sweet, in know they use them in Apaches, or atleast the British do, and they're devestating.
Sweet, in know they use them in Apaches, or atleast the British do, and they're devestating.
in some states yesSurgeons wrote:
Can you get flechette darts in a shell for a shotgun?
/gun noob
in canada no
Thanks and:Surgeons wrote:
I wasn't bothered about the legalities of it, but you can?
Sweet, in know they use them in Apaches, or atleast the British do, and they're devestating.
http://www.antipersonnel.net/sdllc/005.html
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
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