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JohnG@lt wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

"I argue the death penalty clearly should be considered here," he said. "He clearly aided the enemy to what may result in the death of U.S. soldiers . . . If that is not a capital offense, I don't know what is."

Same for Bush and Cheney.

You really need to get over that. It's been almost ten years. Are you going to lie on your deathbed bitching about how Bush and Cheney ruined your life? Please.

Its been ten years, ten years of our soldiers dying and in steadily increasing numbers, this can be pinned squarely on those two Neo-Cons with an agenda.

If your CIA, which seems to have an agenda all its own, is continuing to lie I think thats significant also.

The little guy gets hanged, the big guy takes up a directorship in the military-industrial complex, it needs to stop.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2010-08-04 16:36:03)

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Bush was great up to the end & Cheney is a God, may they both enjoy the rest of their days in peacefull bliss.

Why must people's perceptions of Bush be hyperbolic?  I'm not saying Bush was the worst president we've had, but he certainly wasn't a "great" president either.

The marks against Cheney seem mostly justified though -- he was one of the most manipulative vice presidents we've ever had.  He's on the same level as Spiro Agnew when it comes to corruption.

I was just tweaking Dil as it seems he can't make it through a thread without bashing Bush or Israel.  I liked Bush up until the end.  I never knew why he did those bailouts (didn't agree) and couldn't figure out why he didn't defend himself more when the d's/media started slandering him. 

Compared to this administration, Cheney isn't corrupt.  Go on though -bring up Haliburton.

Well, since you brought it up, it's worth mentioning that the corruption of Halliburton extends beyond just Iraq.  They were the company most responsible for this oil spill -- rather than BP.

So not only is Halliburton corrupt, but they're apparently so well connected that even a Democratic led government won't touch them after fucking up yet another operation.

Given Cheney's long history of war profiteering, I'd say he still is far more corrupt than Obama and Biden.  Although admittedly, Chris Dodd and Barney Frank might be close in their levels of corruption.

lowing wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Obama is your saviour, not mine

not hardly, that fucker is the anti-Christ

Obama is a watered down liberal with banking connections.  He's not the anti-christ, he's just a charismatic speaker that isn't as insane as his competition.

Granted, anyone that isn't far right would seem to be the anti-christ in your opinion.

Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Obama is your saviour, not mine

not hardly, that fucker is the anti-Christ

For-profit wars started by Obama?

Again I ask, if it is a simple as you make it out to be, why does Obama have us there?

Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

Again I ask, if it is a simple as you make it out to be, why does Obama have us there?

Because its not always so simple to climb out of a hole someone else has dug.

I kinda like to think the hole was dug long before Bush got into office...but that is just me.

Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

I kinda like to think the hole was dug long before Bush got into office...but that is just me.

It is just you.

Yeah I know, there was peace in the Middle East until Bush came along and fucked it all up

Dilbert_X wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Same for Bush and Cheney.

You really need to get over that. It's been almost ten years. Are you going to lie on your deathbed bitching about how Bush and Cheney ruined your life? Please.

Its been ten years, ten years of our soldiers dying and in steadily increasing numbers, this can be pinned squarely on those two Neo-Cons with an agenda.

If your CIA, which seems to have an agenda all its own, is continuing to lie I think thats significant also.

The little guy gets hanged, the big guy takes up a directorship in the military-industrial complex, it needs to stop.

To be fair, the people of Iraq are better off now than they were ten years ago. It hasn't all been for naught.

Dilbert_X wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Its been ten years, ten years of our soldiers dying and in steadily increasing numbers, this can be pinned squarely on those two Neo-Cons with an agenda.

If your CIA, which seems to have an agenda all its own, is continuing to lie I think thats significant also.

The little guy gets hanged, the big guy takes up a directorship in the military-industrial complex, it needs to stop.

To be fair, the people of Iraq are better off now than they were ten years ago. It hasn't all been for naught.

Apart from the dead ones.

And how many more would be dead under Saddams rule? Quit being hyperbolic. In the long run they're better off.

Dilbert_X wrote:

Depends, if, as is likely, a large part of Iraq falls to Iranian rule will they be better off?

Maybe, maybe not. At least the Iranian government isn't in the habit of committing genocide against its own people.

As we saw last year with the election riots, the Iranian government is teetering on the brink anyway. They couldn't afford to annex parts of Iraq and bring in yet more malcontents.

Dilbert_X wrote:

Depends, if, as is likely, a large part of Iraq falls to Iranian rule will they be better off?

If the part that falls under Iranian rule is the Shia populated areas, then good.

Iraq, under Saddam, was Sunni controlled and the Shia were 2nd class citizens (at best).

Not sure how the Arab Shia would get along any better with Persian Shia rulers, though.

Persian Shia seems like it's "Shia heart, Sunni mind".

Absorbing the Iraqi Sunni population, though, would put more stress on an already interesting political and social landscape there.

Also worth note, The Wahabbist & Sunni Kingdom of Saud wouldn't be a big fan of a larger Persian Shia state.

And, if the hardliner Persian clergy weren't in power, the Shia would be more likely to live peacefully with the Western World.
(OBL is a product of Saudi Arabian/Sunni/Wahabbiist thought)


If our American leadership would get a damn clue, they'd realize that we do not have to Westernize Iraq and Afghanistan.
Let Saudi Arabia (Sunni / Arab) and Iran (Persian / Shia) duke it out over leadership of the Islamic World.
If they weren't fighting us, they'd be fighting each other...

Tell Pakistan to go fuck themselves too, until they disband the ISI for the plague-works that it has been for the entirety of it's existence too.

Last edited by rdx-fx (2010-08-04 23:02:04)

Reports of the Taliban killing key village elders are starting to surface. The leaked military documents has enough information exposing who is working with the coalition forces. The leak does undermine our efforts and diminished any trust from the people. The thoughtless act of divulging information without thinking of the ramifications falls into the mindset of a child who has not learned the cause and effect of his/her behavior.
The guy is a douche and a tool, he could of waited till the war was over or some how blackened out names of people in order to protect their identity but he didn't. NOW, he is no better than the Apache pilots who accidentally killed the journalist and bystanders trying to help.
I hope this stirs up his conscious even more, the fool!

RISK / REWARD: RISKED people's live and his career / REWARDED infamous notoriety

There is an old naval saying: Loose Lips Sink Ships

Any side may agree on this saying: Snitches get Stitches

JohnG@lt wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

To be fair, the people of Iraq are better off now than they were ten years ago. It hasn't all been for naught.

Apart from the dead ones.

And how many more would be dead under Saddams rule? Quit being hyperbolic. In the long run they're better off.

Lol, thats a joke right?


because if its not you truly are a fucknut.