International Council for Local Environmental Initiatives=UN control?

2010-08-04 21:28:06

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Harmor: Error_Name_Not_Found; +605|6838|San Diego, CA, USA

Now this is an interesting article:

Bike agenda spins cities toward U.N. control, Maes warns

Will one day government mandate we bike to work? Is this program that will "wane us from the automobile" while taking our freedoms?

Not to sound alarmist, but it sure seem innocent on the surface. But when you think about it is it really just a power grab to eventually mandate these 'innocent reforms'?

2010-08-04 21:29:56

#2

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5549|foggy bottom

too easy

Tu Stultus Es

2010-08-04 21:31:38

#3

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6695|North Carolina

Uh.... no.

2010-08-04 21:33:27

#4

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5648|London, England

"Bike Agenda"... really? 90% of Americans are obese and haven't touched a bicycle since they were in grade school. You're adding that 10% to the list of people you are terrified by? I'll admit, bicyclists terrify me, but only because they wear stupid looking, flamboyantly colored skintight clothing that no heterosexual male should ever be caught wearing.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-08-04 21:36:02

#5

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7006

Turquoise wrote:
Uh.... no.

gs wrote:
too easy

lol UN and more control. there's an oxymoron if I heard of one. Americans should be least afraid of UN governance since well you know... you guys own the place.

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2010-08-04 21:38:52

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unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,057|7061|PNW

Republican gubernatorial candidate Dan Maes is warning voters that Denver Mayor John Hickenlooper's policies, particularly his efforts to boost bike riding, are "converting Denver into a United Nations community."

"This is all very well-disguised, but it will be exposed," Maes told about 50 supporters who showed up at a campaign rally last week in Centennial.

Wat.

2010-08-04 21:59:05

#7

Harmor: Error_Name_Not_Found; +605|6838|San Diego, CA, USA

Why are Mayors of United State cities signing anything from the United Nations? Is that essentially a 'treaty'?

Doesn't that violate the Constitution where only the Federal Government can sign and agree to a treaty?

2010-08-04 22:00:12

#8

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5549|foggy bottom

almost everything the un does is non binding. soft law shit.

Tu Stultus Es

2010-08-04 22:05:08

#9

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7006

eleven bravo wrote:
almost everything the un does is non binding. soft law shit.

Only SC shit is legally binding, which the US has veto power to.

Harmor it's just an UN idea to create a "greener planet." it's not a treaty or anything at all, they're just implementing an idea that came from the UN, which is a pretty good idea if you think about it.

2010-08-04 22:06:56

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eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5549|foggy bottom

not for the morbidly obese

Tu Stultus Es

2010-08-04 22:15:55

#11

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,057|7061|PNW

Cybargs wrote:
eleven bravo wrote:
almost everything the un does is non binding. soft law shit.
Only SC shit is legally binding, which the US has veto power to.

Harmor it's just an UN idea to create a "greener planet." it's not a treaty or anything at all, they're just implementing an idea that came from the UN, which is a pretty good idea if you think about it.

Bike lanes are a great idea for reducing vehicle congestion, emissions and increasing available parking. Unfortunately, all the ghetto cities nearby want to be like the big boys and just slap down bike stencils wherever they want to say a bike lane is. This completely ignores the fact that any bicyclist who uses one is essentially riding directly in front of someone's right tires.

| || - right lane + REAL bike lane
| | - right lane without bike lane
| | - right lane + faux bike lane = waste of money

2010-08-04 22:18:34

#12

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7006

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
eleven bravo wrote:
almost everything the un does is non binding. soft law shit.
Only SC shit is legally binding, which the US has veto power to.

Harmor it's just an UN idea to create a "greener planet." it's not a treaty or anything at all, they're just implementing an idea that came from the UN, which is a pretty good idea if you think about it.
Bike lanes are a great idea for reducing vehicle congestion, emissions and increasing available parking. Unfortunately, all the ghetto cities nearby want to be like the big boys and just slap down bike stencils wherever they want to say a bike lane is. This completely ignores the fact that any bicyclist who uses one is essentially riding directly in front of someone's right tires.

| || - right lane + REAL bike lane
| | - right lane without bike lane
| | - right lane + faux bike lane = waste of money

bikes only work well if you have a REALLY REALLY REALLY good public transport system... which most US cities don't have

2010-08-04 22:23:20

#13

Reciprocity: Member; +721|6870|the dank(super) side of Oregon

Maes is trying to out-crazy the crazies now that Tancredo is running as a teabagger. Nothing gets the mouth-breathers worked up more than UN conspiracies.

2010-08-04 22:31:28

#14

Harmor: Error_Name_Not_Found; +605|6838|San Diego, CA, USA

eleven bravo wrote:
not for the morbidly obese

I think you pinned me on this one.

2010-08-04 22:35:33

#15

Harmor: Error_Name_Not_Found; +605|6838|San Diego, CA, USA

Reciprocity wrote:
Maes is trying to out-crazy the crazies now that Tancredo is running as a teabagger. Nothing gets the mouth-breathers worked up more than UN conspiracies.

Good for him. Hope he wins. That reminds me to add him to my donation list.

Also labeling him with the derogatory term 'teabagger' doesn't help your side garner support. If anything it makes you sound small-minded, with all due respect.

2010-08-04 22:43:20

#16

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,057|7061|PNW

Cybargs wrote:
unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Cybargs wrote:

Only SC shit is legally binding, which the US has veto power to.

Harmor it's just an UN idea to create a "greener planet." it's not a treaty or anything at all, they're just implementing an idea that came from the UN, which is a pretty good idea if you think about it.
Bike lanes are a great idea for reducing vehicle congestion, emissions and increasing available parking. Unfortunately, all the ghetto cities nearby want to be like the big boys and just slap down bike stencils wherever they want to say a bike lane is. This completely ignores the fact that any bicyclist who uses one is essentially riding directly in front of someone's right tires.

| || - right lane + REAL bike lane
| | - right lane without bike lane
| | - right lane + faux bike lane = waste of money
bikes only work well if you have a REALLY REALLY REALLY good public transport system... which most US cities don't have

Well, Washington's trying, but we're not very centralized. Plus people don't want to be harassed by criminals on the train. What some people are doing is just using bike racks, parking at a garage then riding out.

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