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I miss you guise

pewpewpew oh know ive been targeted get back in the forcefield! hahaha pew pew oh shit back in!

trlolololo

FatherTed wrote:

Adams_BJ wrote:

lolted: http://www.eve-search.com/thread/971836/page/1

when google searching - Thorax pvp solo

got my first pvp kill using that fit

if its still viable now you me and IGR should take it out on a roam

For old time's sake.

yeah, i did understand the finer points of EVE's combat... i read up a lot on it after, indeed, not 'getting' it after my few trial-run plays. ive totalled about 2 month's of total play-time on EVE just by continuously taking and playing trials a moderate amount. i even resubbed one trial account to 'further' a character and get further into development with skill-points... but it just didn't 'grab' me. EVE is more of a virtual spreadsheet, where the numbers matter first-and-foremost (numbers often determined by arbitrary things, such as how long your opponent has subbed and amassed skillpoints for in 'x' area)- whereas in WoW it's entirely down to the skill of the player in any given situation. this is talking within reason, of course... in both games you can get blobbed by a party/fleet that far outsizes you. just generally regarding the play 'style' and 'feel' of the gameplay, if you know what i mean. EVE seems more 'passive' - even though you're making lots of strategic decisions and affecting the course of a fight in ways, it's more to do at the end of the day with the ways the numbers add-up and who is left standing at the end. in WoW you feel dynamically and instrinsically connected to every fight in real time-- probably a combination of the different movement-system (WASD) with the fact all your moves are real-time, instantly-performed actions, so you have to hit a hotkey/shortcut/number whenever you want to even do one bit of damage. in comparison, weapons in EVE, e.g. lasers, just operate on an auto-attack timer. it feels less engaging to me that way.

hope that makes sense.

Uzique I forgot, did you ever live in nullsec?

Please keep chats clear trololol.

Uzique wrote:

yep, was babysat and funded by bigger, richer friends... what difference does that make to fundamental turn-offs in the game's combat?

lots and lots and lots. when i started (the npe was a little different, might be easier now) it was a huuuuge grind to get your first cruiser for missions. i then promptly lost it in lowsec. set me back a week or so. basically it makes eve pvp tangible in the sense that its your stuff (and time) thats being destroyed, and once it's gone it's gone.

Teds gave me 5 mil cause he's sexy and Irish gave me 50 mil cause he's super-sexy.

Uzique if you flew with fleets you would know frigates are the scout/tackle/disposables, no I don't lose a lot each time but it is quite the opposite of being protected on roams.

You don't like it, let us play our game.

I didn't say you didn't know what tackling is. I said you didn't do any tackling. If you are saying there is only tackling in small-scale pvp, then I dunno what you are on about because tackle is everywhere. If you are saying you only did small-scale pvp, then I don't know where you get your opinion about how shit the game is.

What you failed to take from the risk point, is EVE is about setting up your battles as much as fighting them. The key is fitting a ship and being aware so you're in a position to hold someone when you're going to fuck them or slip away before you get fucked. In large fleets, it's about the bubbles, logi, and EWAR as much so if not more than DPS. You are so focused on the guns being boring, yeah that is the most boring part of combat. All they do is pew pew and that's it. The difficulty is in maintaining your speed/distance, maintaining your tank, maintaining your cap, and then whatever other PvP aspect your ship is fitted for.

The point is you aren't changing anyone's minds, and while I'm not pissed off by "you spreadsheet geeks because you occasionally like to wank into each other's mouths on the in-game browser as well as the in-game chat" it is stupid attacking.

Look at fucking FM becoming a pro all of a sudden knowing all his shits... I'll be asking you questions next, lulz!

Out of lols, that dream you mentioned... Was that before you lost the Drake? Cause that's ironic as fuck if it was.

I had the dream before I lost my Drake...fuckin prophetic lawl

Uzique when I was first asking you about the game you told me "EWAR isn't as big of a deal as it is made out to be" when I was talking about wanting to get into a Blackbird. You talked about how the combat is all pick optimal orbit range and shoot. You told me EVE Uni was THE way to go for noob players. I have learned first hand how obscenely wrong those statement are.

You said "in EVE it seems like half of the battle is decided on pure numbers or maths before the fight even begins". That is not the same as preparation. Preparation includes intel, fleet positioning, and fleet composition beyond straight up numbers and individual fittings. That is the where you don't understand what the preparation is, the part that isn't the spreadsheet. The battle might not even be fought, much less decided, because of these additional levels of preparation.

And I'm not reading tutorials anymore, I'm learning from experience.

http://combat.ishukone-raata.com/?a=pil … t_id=52350

Obviously those aren't legitimate "kills" because I'm not doing damage for shit, but I've been in a fair number of fleets and watched how the pros roll as it were.