ghettoperson
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Would it make my chances in court better if 'she' was? I suppose I could then add false advertising or something onto it.
Pug
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You have a character issue, so it'd never go to court.
eleven bravo
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hoes is always lying
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loubot
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Bertster7 wrote:

Opinions?
[  ] Getting Laid
[X] Trying to get Laid

What some guys will do just to get laid. Not sure what he intended, but if it was going to be a fling, he should of got out of town before she went to the authorities.
zeidmaan
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I love how she claims she was looking for a decent man for a serious relationship, but slept with a guy with a bike after 15 minutes

Did anyone managed to find a pro-conviction spin on this case? I would love to read it.
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wonder how much she charged him
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unnamednewbie13
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Identity deceit was a pretty asshole thing to do, but rape charges? I don't think he forced her to be easy...
Cybargs
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Guess the bitch just doesn't like Hajji... Maybe she is really religious and would only date a Jewish man

reminds me of this: http://www.break.com/usercontent/2007/1 … ons-213343
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ghettoperson
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What kind of 'really religious' girl fucks on the first date?
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ghettoperson wrote:

What kind of 'really religious' girl fucks on the first date?
the right kind
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Cybargs
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ghettoperson wrote:

What kind of 'really religious' girl fucks on the first date?
One's that are cool with fucking but aint cool with not fucking people not of their own faith.
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ghettoperson
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SEREMAKER wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

What kind of 'really religious' girl fucks on the first date?
the right kind
Chicka chicka yeah!
rdx-fx
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There is a very good reason for this, based on Jewish law.

cohen-levi.org wrote:

A Kohen may not marry any of the following women (in addition to those women forbidden to all Jewish men):

A Convert (giores) – a women born of non-Jewish parents, though she was converted Halachically to Judaism

A Zona – a Jewish women who had intimate relations with a man whom she is forbidden to marry, e.g. a non-Jew.

A Divorcee (gerusha) –a women who was married and divorced in accordance with Jewish law. This includes a women who was previously the Kohen’s own wife.

A Chalala – a Kohen’s daughter born to a women who was forbidden to him (e.g. a divorcee) or a Kohen’s daughter who had relations with a man forbidden to her (e.g. a non-Jew).

A Hostage (shevuya) –a victim of non-Jewish captors, kidnappers or the like.
So, she was consenting to sex with a Jewish man, she was not consenting to sex with a non-Jewish man.

In Israel, under Israeli law and Jewish custom, what he did was rape.

Now, her and all of her descendants are banned from marrying or having a relationship with a Kohanim

Also note, there is not a ban on pre-marital sex on the above list.
As long as you're screwing within the proper group of people, screw who you like.
(that claim could be debated though...)

Cohen-Levi.org article quoted above

Wiki article on Kohanim descendants of the Biblical Aaron.
The phrase "Kohen ha-Gadol" (Heb. )כהן גדול literally means "Great Priest" in Hebrew.

So, the Jewish take the whole Kohanim thing rather seriously.
What that guy did was, culturally, equvalent to an infidel walking into Mecca and screwing a Muslim woman in sight of the Kaaba.
Or, to a real Catholic, a Catholic priest going pedo-bear on an altar boy...

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Religious law
zeidmaan
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rdx-fx wrote:

There is a very good reason for this, based on Jewish law.

cohen-levi.org wrote:

A Kohen may not marry any of the following women (in addition to those women forbidden to all Jewish men):

A Convert (giores) – a women born of non-Jewish parents, though she was converted Halachically to Judaism

A Zona – a Jewish women who had intimate relations with a man whom she is forbidden to marry, e.g. a non-Jew.

A Divorcee (gerusha) –a women who was married and divorced in accordance with Jewish law. This includes a women who was previously the Kohen’s own wife.

A Chalala – a Kohen’s daughter born to a women who was forbidden to him (e.g. a divorcee) or a Kohen’s daughter who had relations with a man forbidden to her (e.g. a non-Jew).

A Hostage (shevuya) –a victim of non-Jewish captors, kidnappers or the like.
So, she was consenting to sex with a Jewish man, she was not consenting to sex with a non-Jewish man.

In Israel, under Israeli law and Jewish custom, what he did was rape.

Now, her and all of her descendants are banned from marrying or having a relationship with a Kohanim
Reading the "Chalala" part, I cant believe they think there are any Kohens left in the world

Anyway, its not rape because of him de-Kochening her (Copyright). Its rape by deceit for a whole diferent reason.
rdx-fx
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zeidmaan wrote:

Reading the "Chalala" part, I cant believe they think there are any Kohens left in the world
There have been a few different genetic testing studies done, like here, for example that have identified a common genetic haplotype that between 90% to 97.5% of claimed Kohanim share in common.  Odds of that marker appearing in the same sample population size at random is about 1:10,000.
There's a little bit of fuzziness at the edge of the population group, but they definitely seem to be 'keeping it in the tribe' and not just playing make-believe.

Yes, the high priest class of the Jewish people keep pretty tight ledger books over the last 3300 years.
Might be a little something-something to that particular anal-retentive accountant stereotype.
(American flag on my uniform shoulder, Kohanim last name on my uniform, Atheist on my dogtags -- guess which region of the world I'd get the warmest reception in...)

zeidmaan wrote:

Anyway, its not rape because of him de-Kochening her (Copyright). Its rape by deceit for a whole diferent reason.
The whole non Kosher sausage deal is an important point in that region.
And you can't copyright it.  There's prior use documented.  Scroll up.
Jaekus
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Mekstizzle wrote:

Whatever happened to a good old slap to the face. The whole rape thing is generally getting out of hand, throughout the world. Too many women misusing it and because of all the feminist bullshit they usually easily get away with it.

A man's life can be ruined even if found not guilty but accused of rape and usually the women get off easily, rape accusation is too much of a tool for them nowadays.
Whilst what you're saying is in part correct, it's goes the other way more often than not.
Woman gets raped, not enough hard evidence, man walks free.

Or the most common one of all:
Woman gets raped, tells noone or never attempts to press a charge.

Just putting the other side of the story there to balance it out a little.
unnamednewbie13
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Again, boo-freaking-hoo. She should have kept her legs closed until she married.
Dilbert_X
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rdx-fx wrote:

There is a very good reason for this, based on Jewish law.

cohen-levi.org wrote:

A Kohen may not marry any of the following women (in addition to those women forbidden to all Jewish men):

A Convert (giores) – a women born of non-Jewish parents, though she was converted Halachically to Judaism

A Zona – a Jewish women who had intimate relations with a man whom she is forbidden to marry, e.g. a non-Jew.

A Divorcee (gerusha) –a women who was married and divorced in accordance with Jewish law. This includes a women who was previously the Kohen’s own wife.

A Chalala – a Kohen’s daughter born to a women who was forbidden to him (e.g. a divorcee) or a Kohen’s daughter who had relations with a man forbidden to her (e.g. a non-Jew).

A Hostage (shevuya) –a victim of non-Jewish captors, kidnappers or the like.
As long as you're screwing within the proper group of people, screw who you like.
This law doesn't apply to jewish men though, they can screw around with the goyim as much as they like..
Or, to a real Catholic, a Catholic priest going pedo-bear on an altar boy...
Hardly, it was the woman who fucked up really, she bears the consequences of the prehistoric nutball religion she's part of.
Fuck Israel
Cybargs
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Dilbert_X wrote:

rdx-fx wrote:

There is a very good reason for this, based on Jewish law.

cohen-levi.org wrote:

A Kohen may not marry any of the following women (in addition to those women forbidden to all Jewish men):

A Convert (giores) – a women born of non-Jewish parents, though she was converted Halachically to Judaism

A Zona – a Jewish women who had intimate relations with a man whom she is forbidden to marry, e.g. a non-Jew.

A Divorcee (gerusha) –a women who was married and divorced in accordance with Jewish law. This includes a women who was previously the Kohen’s own wife.

A Chalala – a Kohen’s daughter born to a women who was forbidden to him (e.g. a divorcee) or a Kohen’s daughter who had relations with a man forbidden to her (e.g. a non-Jew).

A Hostage (shevuya) –a victim of non-Jewish captors, kidnappers or the like.
As long as you're screwing within the proper group of people, screw who you like.
This law doesn't apply to jewish men though, they can screw around with the goyim as much as they like..
Or, to a real Catholic, a Catholic priest going pedo-bear on an altar boy...
Hardly, it was the woman who fucked up really, she bears the consequences of the prehistoric nutball religion she's part of.
The law does apply to both genders

]A Kohen may not marry any of the following women (in addition to those women forbidden to all Jewish men)
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Bertster7
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rdx-fx wrote:

What that guy did was, culturally, equvalent to an infidel walking into Mecca and screwing a Muslim woman in sight of the Kaaba.
Or, to a real Catholic, a Catholic priest going pedo-bear on an altar boy...
Not even close.

For a start, he never claimed to be Jewish. That was her assumption. He only lied about his name (and didn't really lie about that - he used a nickname that is what his friends call him (Dudu ()), which happened to be a common Jewish nickname for David), something I bet a lot of men have done to get laid.

There is no sort of responsibility to tell your partner all sorts of things about yourself before fucking them (unless you have AIDS or something). If she was so concerned about whether or not he was Jewish she should have made sure.

A better comparison would be a Catholic priest fucking a midget that he assumed was a child and then suing them for deceiving him into thinking they were a child.

Convicted of rape because a woman assumes you are someone you are not....

Great justice there.
Mekstizzle
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I thought the real question would be what happened to Israel being a tolerant westernised nation that doesn't bring stupid religious laws into the court and uses it as a basis for a rape conviction. You guys always bring up Saudi Arabia as the benchmark too, I don't know why people like those crazy bastards so much and hold them up on the pedestal as the benchmark for human civilisation.
Bertster7
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Mekstizzle wrote:

I thought the real question would be what happened to Israel being a tolerant westernised nation that doesn't bring stupid religious laws into the court and uses it as a basis for a rape conviction. You guys always bring up Saudi Arabia as the benchmark too, I don't know why people like those crazy bastards so much and hold them up on the pedestal as the benchmark for human civilisation.
There is no religious law that was applied here.

The rape conviction was probably down to the religious/ethnic background to the case, but there are no specific religious laws that were applied here.

Apparently there is precedent for these sort of convictions in Israel, which doesn't make them any less stupid. A man who pretended to be a neurosurgeon to get laid was convicted for fraud.
rdx-fx
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Bertster7 wrote:

Not even close.

He only lied about his name, something I bet a lot of men have done to get laid.

There is no sort of responsibility to tell your partner all sorts of things about yourself before fucking them (unless you have AIDS or something). If she was so concerned about whether or not he was Jewish she should have made sure.

Convicted of rape because a woman assumes you are someone you are not....

Great justice there.
He lied, straight up.

He lied about his name, misrepresenting his backround in the process.
Now, why would you purposely lie about something so apparently inconsequential, unless you knew of certain cultural or religious roadblocks to getting into a particular girls shorts?

He knew what the fuck he was up to, he lied, he took his chances - and the woman got pissed when she found out, then nailed his ass to a cross with the court system.

He lied, he took his chances, he lost.


Personally, if I'm going to date a woman, I'd make an effort to be on the right side of her particular religious or cultural views.
I'm definitely NOT going to go out of my way to lie, evade, or misrepresent myself.
If she doesn't like who I am, then, forget it, move on to the next woman.

Short course (TL:DR) summary - If you have to lie to get laid, you're already fucking up and need to check your head right-now-real-quick-and-in-a-hurry. If she finds out afterwards, expect an unholy shitstorm of apocalyptical proportions.

Last edited by rdx-fx (2010-07-24 12:37:36)

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Mekstizzle wrote:

Whatever happened to a good old slap to the face. The whole rape thing is generally getting out of hand, throughout the world. Too many women misusing it and because of all the feminist bullshit they usually easily get away with it.

A man's life can be ruined even if found not guilty but accused of rape and usually the women get off easily, rape accusation is too much of a tool for them nowadays.
Yeah I agree.

I think you're pretty much screwed once you're accused of rape even if you're found innocent later.
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