Does this apply even if you train different muscle groups each day?Zimmer wrote:
Give yourself at least a day of recovery from one workout to the other. So, you should be doing - Monday ON, Tuesday OFF, Wednesday ON and so on. You should ONLY be working out 3 times a week if you're a beginner or even 6 months into working out.
Yes. Most definitely. And you didn't read my follow on from that. If you've just started out and are gearing towards taking this seriously, then you shouldn't be targeting different muscle groups each day. You should be doing a mix of the base exercises (which I will get into later on) on every workout. You shouldn't be doing any concentrated workouts, it's not going to benefit your muscles unless you're already pretty advanced and have worked out for a while.Metal-Eater-GR wrote:
Does this apply even if you train different muscle groups each day?Zimmer wrote:
Give yourself at least a day of recovery from one workout to the other. So, you should be doing - Monday ON, Tuesday OFF, Wednesday ON and so on. You should ONLY be working out 3 times a week if you're a beginner or even 6 months into working out.
You should always have an entire day rest and for beginners and intermediates you should be targeting most, if not all, muscle groups every workout day. The only two that should be switched about are legs and chest, but even then I advise doing legs at every opportunity.
Targeting different muscle groups still affects all your other muscles because you're tiring yourself out - That in turn then doesn't allow the muscles that got worked out the day before to get all the nutrients they need to grow. It's pretty simple really, you're not feeding your muscles enough if you don't rest them.
OK chaps, you're going to like this.
The guy in the pic (on the right) is a friend of a friend - he's the regional champion for the 'All Natural' bodybuilding league or something, ie nutritional supplements are allowed - but no drugs, steroids etc.
What he doesn't know about working out is probably not worth knowing.
So anyway, the point is this is how far you can go without drugs, and he isn't gay either.
(For once this isn't a troll post )
The guy in the pic (on the right) is a friend of a friend - he's the regional champion for the 'All Natural' bodybuilding league or something, ie nutritional supplements are allowed - but no drugs, steroids etc.
What he doesn't know about working out is probably not worth knowing.
So anyway, the point is this is how far you can go without drugs, and he isn't gay either.
(For once this isn't a troll post )
Last edited by Dilbert_X (2010-06-29 06:39:55)
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I do not have a say in my workout program, as it is arranged by the inducer (sp) and not me. But thanks for the insight.Zimmer wrote:
Yes. Most definitely. And you didn't read my follow on from that. If you've just started out and are gearing towards taking this seriously, then you shouldn't be targeting different muscle groups each day. You should be doing a mix of the base exercises (which I will get into later on) on every workout. You shouldn't be doing any concentrated workouts, it's not going to benefit your muscles unless you're already pretty advanced and have worked out for a while.Metal-Eater-GR wrote:
Does this apply even if you train different muscle groups each day?Zimmer wrote:
Give yourself at least a day of recovery from one workout to the other. So, you should be doing - Monday ON, Tuesday OFF, Wednesday ON and so on. You should ONLY be working out 3 times a week if you're a beginner or even 6 months into working out.
You should always have an entire day rest and for beginners and intermediates you should be targeting most, if not all, muscle groups every workout day. The only two that should be switched about are legs and chest, but even then I advise doing legs at every opportunity.
Targeting different muscle groups still affects all your other muscles because you're tiring yourself out - That in turn then doesn't allow the muscles that got worked out the day before to get all the nutrients they need to grow. It's pretty simple really, you're not feeding your muscles enough if you don't rest them.
You're entitled to an opinion though. I personally don't go for trainers because there are many that know little about how to properly work out. There are so many myths and thoughts about working out that are wrong that I wouldn't be surprised that many of the trainers believe them. I've spoken to several trainers; physios and the rest and they're usually more surprised that they didn't know what I explained than anything else. I've met trainers that shove you on a regime that is incredibly dumb as well.Metal-Eater-GR wrote:
I do not have a say in my workout program, as it is arranged by the inducer (sp) and not me. But thanks for the insight.
Of course, if you feel that your trainer is correct and that you are noticing a difference, then by all means continue on your current course.
cardio on off-days? that's how i do it when i have self-realizing moments of 'oh shit, im unfit'.Zimmer wrote:
Yes. Most definitely. And you didn't read my follow on from that. If you've just started out and are gearing towards taking this seriously, then you shouldn't be targeting different muscle groups each day. You should be doing a mix of the base exercises (which I will get into later on) on every workout. You shouldn't be doing any concentrated workouts, it's not going to benefit your muscles unless you're already pretty advanced and have worked out for a while.Metal-Eater-GR wrote:
Does this apply even if you train different muscle groups each day?Zimmer wrote:
Give yourself at least a day of recovery from one workout to the other. So, you should be doing - Monday ON, Tuesday OFF, Wednesday ON and so on. You should ONLY be working out 3 times a week if you're a beginner or even 6 months into working out.
You should always have an entire day rest and for beginners and intermediates you should be targeting most, if not all, muscle groups every workout day. The only two that should be switched about are legs and chest, but even then I advise doing legs at every opportunity.
Targeting different muscle groups still affects all your other muscles because you're tiring yourself out - That in turn then doesn't allow the muscles that got worked out the day before to get all the nutrients they need to grow. It's pretty simple really, you're not feeding your muscles enough if you don't rest them.
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This is probably one point where it is entirely up to the person. Cardio is fine on an off day, but only on one. You really do need to rest completely, and when I mean rest I mean no exercise or exerting yourself whatsoever.Uzique wrote:
cardio on off-days? that's how i do it when i have self-realizing moments of 'oh shit, im unfit'.
I always advise cardio right after a workout - never before because then it makes the workout pointless - because it's when you have to push yourself that *bit* further. Then again, in general you don't need much cardio to get "fit". Cardio relates to stamina and endurance and you can be perfectly healthy without much of it.
I have friends who followed the same way of training and it worked for them pretty well. But then everybody's different so that can't be a criterion can it. Will keep your advice in mind, though, thanks once again.Zimmer wrote:
You're entitled to an opinion though. I personally don't go for trainers because there are many that know little about how to properly work out. There are so many myths and thoughts about working out that are wrong that I wouldn't be surprised that many of the trainers believe them. I've spoken to several trainers; physios and the rest and they're usually more surprised that they didn't know what I explained than anything else. I've met trainers that shove you on a regime that is incredibly dumb as well.Metal-Eater-GR wrote:
I do not have a say in my workout program, as it is arranged by the inducer (sp) and not me. But thanks for the insight.
Of course, if you feel that your trainer is correct and that you are noticing a difference, then by all means continue on your current course.
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I do cardio 6 days a week (and usually twice a day) and its strongly recommended by anyone in the running community. Its perfectly fine to do cardio on 3 of your off days. It just depends on your workout program and what you're looking to develop. If you're working towards developing muscle then go for a light, easy 20 minute jog on your off days. If you're looking for pure fitness then alternate your runs between long and short, hill training, sprint intervals, etc.Zimmer wrote:
This is probably one point where it is entirely up to the person. Cardio is fine on an off day, but only on one. You really do need to rest completely, and when I mean rest I mean no exercise or exerting yourself whatsoever.Uzique wrote:
cardio on off-days? that's how i do it when i have self-realizing moments of 'oh shit, im unfit'.
I always advise cardio right after a workout - never before because then it makes the workout pointless - because it's when you have to push yourself that *bit* further. Then again, in general you don't need much cardio to get "fit". Cardio relates to stamina and endurance and you can be perfectly healthy without much of it.
Why is he orange and has no pecs whatsoever?Dilbert_X wrote:
OK chaps, you're going to like this.
The guy in the pic (on the right) is a friend of a friend - he's the regional champion for the 'All Natural' bodybuilding league or something, ie nutritional supplements are allowed - but no drugs, steroids etc.
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj25 … admate.jpg
What he doesn't know about working out is probably not worth knowing.
So anyway, the point is this is how far you can go without drugs, and he isn't gay either.
(For once this isn't a troll post )
Orange - Because they spray-paint themselves with some goo for the competition for some reason.Winston_Churchill wrote:
Why is he orange and has no pecs whatsoever?
Pecs - No idea.
Fuck Israel
Is it possible to get fit and shit by just doing sports? I kinda hate running on a fucking treadmill for 45 minutes or lifting weights for an hour.
cardio - yes.
you ain't gonna build muscle to any worthy degree unless the sports obviously involve heavy muscle-exercise.
most team-sports ain't intense enough, they're more about endurance and athleticism.
you ain't gonna build muscle to any worthy degree unless the sports obviously involve heavy muscle-exercise.
most team-sports ain't intense enough, they're more about endurance and athleticism.
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Yeah, most sports depend on off time training to develop the muscle needed for the sport. Swimming is the only one I could see allowing you to develop any serious muscle
well it's a good thing I have a pool at my house then!
I swear he has a vagina.Dilbert_X wrote:
OK chaps, you're going to like this.
The guy in the pic (on the right) is a friend of a friend - he's the regional champion for the 'All Natural' bodybuilding league or something, ie nutritional supplements are allowed - but no drugs, steroids etc.
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj25 … admate.jpg
What he doesn't know about working out is probably not worth knowing.
So anyway, the point is this is how far you can go without drugs, and he isn't gay either.
(For once this isn't a troll post )
This is not a fitness thread, nor is it a running thread. I do not advise this by any means. Runners aren't built nor do they want to be, they need to be light and skinny, not muscley.Winston_Churchill wrote:
I do cardio 6 days a week (and usually twice a day) and its strongly recommended by anyone in the running community. Its perfectly fine to do cardio on 3 of your off days. It just depends on your workout program and what you're looking to develop. If you're working towards developing muscle then go for a light, easy 20 minute jog on your off days. If you're looking for pure fitness then alternate your runs between long and short, hill training, sprint intervals, etc.
There should be total rest days. No cardio and no workouts. Sprints and stuff only need to be done once a week. There is enough endurance done with a proper workout regime.
Again, this ain't a running community, therefore the recommendation is both pointless and not true for this.
Zimmer wrote:
This is not a fitness thread, nor is it a running thread. I do not advise this by any means. Runners aren't built nor do they want to be, they need to be light and skinny, not muscley.Winston_Churchill wrote:
I do cardio 6 days a week (and usually twice a day) and its strongly recommended by anyone in the running community. Its perfectly fine to do cardio on 3 of your off days. It just depends on your workout program and what you're looking to develop. If you're working towards developing muscle then go for a light, easy 20 minute jog on your off days. If you're looking for pure fitness then alternate your runs between long and short, hill training, sprint intervals, etc.
There should be total rest days. No cardio and no workouts. Sprints and stuff only need to be done once a week. There is enough endurance done with a proper workout regime.
Again, this ain't a running community, therefore the recommendation is both pointless and not true for this.
So running isnt a "workout"?
Also, you're wrong. Plenty of long distance runners are built, just not the pro marathoners from Kenya. I'm doubting anyone here is aiming for world records in the marathon. Ever seen sprinters? Much, much more built than you are. Ever seen sport runners/triathlon runners? Again, much more built than you are.
You can have almost total rest on the upper body muscles you are building up with your lifting if you do a run... unless you are doing handstands and cartwheels instead of running properly. Advising against cardio is just silly.
Last edited by Winston_Churchill (2010-06-29 10:49:51)
i walk and do push ups.
zimmer
i dont know if it too much to ask but can you post a workout plan for beginners?
i dont know if it too much to ask but can you post a workout plan for beginners?
Check out this thread if zimmer cant/ while he works on it:lxcpikiman wrote:
zimmer
i dont know if it too much to ask but can you post a workout plan for beginners?
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea … =115643271
Is there any benefit in doing cardio in the morning and then later in the evening do my workout? Or is that worse?Zimmer wrote:
This is probably one point where it is entirely up to the person. Cardio is fine on an off day, but only on one. You really do need to rest completely, and when I mean rest I mean no exercise or exerting yourself whatsoever.Uzique wrote:
cardio on off-days? that's how i do it when i have self-realizing moments of 'oh shit, im unfit'.
I always advise cardio right after a workout - never before because then it makes the workout pointless - because it's when you have to push yourself that *bit* further. Then again, in general you don't need much cardio to get "fit". Cardio relates to stamina and endurance and you can be perfectly healthy without much of it.
That's my next step mate. I don't have time just now, but I should do in the next few days.lxcpikiman wrote:
zimmer
i dont know if it too much to ask but can you post a workout plan for beginners?
@ Haibai - I would always do it after the workout, because that is when cardio is going to be the most effective. If you do it beforehand, even in the morning, you're going to tire your muscles out when you want them to be in prime form for the workout later in the day. It's personal choice at the end, if you think it works for you then go ahead.
wtf why would you ever want to look like that? gross.Dilbert_X wrote:
OK chaps, you're going to like this.
The guy in the pic (on the right) is a friend of a friend - he's the regional champion for the 'All Natural' bodybuilding league or something, ie nutritional supplements are allowed - but no drugs, steroids etc.
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj25 … admate.jpg
What he doesn't know about working out is probably not worth knowing.
So anyway, the point is this is how far you can go without drugs, and he isn't gay either.
(For once this isn't a troll post )
No idea really, some people take things to extremes.11 Bravo wrote:
wtf why would you ever want to look like that? gross.Dilbert_X wrote:
OK chaps, you're going to like this.
The guy in the pic (on the right) is a friend of a friend - he's the regional champion for the 'All Natural' bodybuilding league or something, ie nutritional supplements are allowed - but no drugs, steroids etc.
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj25 … admate.jpg
What he doesn't know about working out is probably not worth knowing.
So anyway, the point is this is how far you can go without drugs, and he isn't gay either.
(For once this isn't a troll post )
Fuck Israel
This might sound stupid to some, and it probably is a stupid question, but w/e.
When out, would you rather be drinking a glass of cola/soda or a beer? (ie. what's more healthy?)
When out, would you rather be drinking a glass of cola/soda or a beer? (ie. what's more healthy?)