init m8 dunkno dats how we roll blud
nah shut up man you're the one selling your ferrari fucks sakes
nah shut up man you're the one selling your ferrari fucks sakes
got any other pics goonface, where abouts were you sitting?
i got in the pitlane and stuff
they wouldn't let me cross the red line lol
they wouldn't let me cross the red line lol
lol were you there on saturday (qualifying) when lewis had to get out the car and start pushing it infront of the crowd
nah, they had to get everyone out of the pitlane at 5 to 12, so then we went back to our seats all the way across the track at the hairpin
Bump
Euro Grand Prix this weekend, so far all races in Valencia have been shit but maybe this will be different. Ferrari and Mercedes looking much closer to McLaren/Red Bull so it should be a good race
Euro Grand Prix this weekend, so far all races in Valencia have been shit but maybe this will be different. Ferrari and Mercedes looking much closer to McLaren/Red Bull so it should be a good race
Last edited by Mekstizzle (2010-06-25 03:46:37)
Well that was gay, Red Bull on the front row. Valencia is usually a terrible race and with the two fastest cars at the front there's no hope for tomorrow, probably not gonna watch it... but at least there's the World Cup to look forward to
Great session, McLaren definately exceeding my expectations after a poor Practice showing all weekend. Race pace is usually pretty decent too, so I'm hoping Lewis can stick to the Red Bulls and maybe have a go on the straights. Although there was no competitive overtakes out on track (only in pit stops) in the 2009 race, we're due a decent race tomorrow
This was a great race, Mark Webber is probably getting used to flying in the air now, what a crazy crash
awsm race, GOGO KOBY
Just goes to show how strong those cars are. (where they need to be)ghettoperson wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJh6A-5CaOY
Mark Webber you lucky guy, as soon as he landed upside down I thought oh shit he's hit his head on the kerb, this is serious. A massive relief to see his head moving and to see him throw his wheel and seatbelt out of the car, very lucky guy! Pretty shocked that a car with such high downforce would take to the air like that anyway, although it's happened before.
Great job by Lewis to nail two perfect laps prior to his drive through penalty. Lol at Alonso when the team told him that Lewis had still maintained P2, that's what he gets I suppose It's not over yet though, no decision taken against the others that were being investigated so far, but Kobayashi could grab a podium if everybody is penalised!
Great job by Lewis to nail two perfect laps prior to his drive through penalty. Lol at Alonso when the team told him that Lewis had still maintained P2, that's what he gets I suppose It's not over yet though, no decision taken against the others that were being investigated so far, but Kobayashi could grab a podium if everybody is penalised!
5 second penalties applied to loads of drivers for going to fast during the safety car or some shit. Nothing really changes except Buemi loses a place to Alonso and De La Rosa loses his place to Rosberg
should have been drive true, so 20seconds, like speeding in pitlane it is the same offense
Last edited by menzo (2010-06-27 09:56:15)
I am right 5seconds penalty doesnt exist
The stewards may impose any one of three penalties on any driver involved in an Incident :
a) A drive-through penalty. The driver must enter the pit lane and re-join the race without stopping ;
b) A ten second time penalty. The driver must enter the pit lane, stop at his pit for at least ten seconds and then re-join the race.
c) a drop of any number of grid positions at the driver’s next Event.
However, should either of the penalties under a) and b) above be imposed during the last five laps, or after the end of a race, Article 16.4b) below will not apply and 20 seconds will be added to the elapsed race time of the driver concerned in the case of a) above and 30 seconds in the case of b).
The stewards may impose any one of three penalties on any driver involved in an Incident :
a) A drive-through penalty. The driver must enter the pit lane and re-join the race without stopping ;
b) A ten second time penalty. The driver must enter the pit lane, stop at his pit for at least ten seconds and then re-join the race.
c) a drop of any number of grid positions at the driver’s next Event.
However, should either of the penalties under a) and b) above be imposed during the last five laps, or after the end of a race, Article 16.4b) below will not apply and 20 seconds will be added to the elapsed race time of the driver concerned in the case of a) above and 30 seconds in the case of b).
Mark Webber's fault, that crash.
i smell a mad ferrari
5 seconds is abit weird but there might be something to the rules we're not seeing that says they can do something like that if they want.
What Ferrari are complaining about is how it took so long for them to punish Hamilton and even when they did it was only a drive through. The combination of taking a long time + a weak drive through meant he pretty much got away with everything. But Drive through is probably standard for doing what he did. Some say he should have been black flagged for overtaking the safety car.
I think the main thing is why they took so long, there was no need to wait about 30 minutes to decide on whether Hamilton was right or wrong!
What Ferrari are complaining about is how it took so long for them to punish Hamilton and even when they did it was only a drive through. The combination of taking a long time + a weak drive through meant he pretty much got away with everything. But Drive through is probably standard for doing what he did. Some say he should have been black flagged for overtaking the safety car.
I think the main thing is why they took so long, there was no need to wait about 30 minutes to decide on whether Hamilton was right or wrong!
yeh and therefor for he could build a big enough gap so it didnt impact his track positionMekstizzle wrote:
5 seconds is abit weird but there might be something to the rules we're not seeing that says they can do something like that if they want.
What Ferrari are complaining about is how it took so long for them to punish Hamilton and even when they did it was only a drive through. The combination of taking a long time + a weak drive through meant he pretty much got away with everything. But Drive through is probably standard for doing what he did. Some say he should have been black flagged for overtaking the safety car.
I think the main thing is why they took so long, there was no need to wait about 30 minutes to decide on whether Hamilton was right or wrong!
Good post explaining the details behind next year's moveable rear wing. I'm not really a fan of this, I reckon it might make things too easy for the car following behind, but here's what it am:
ManipeF1 wrote:
Feature: How the 2011 rear wing will work
There has been much commotion about the proposed 2011 moveable rear wing (MRW), with drivers and fans alike joining together to largely oppose its introduction. While fans are fearful the new wing will make overtaking too easy, drivers are worried about safety, with Mark Webber's enormous accident in Valencia last weekend once again highlighting the danger of excessive closing speeds. On Saturday in Valencia, Manipe F1 attended Williams technical director Sam Michael's media briefing to get the low-down on the 2011 rear wing and to find out exactly how it will work.
Put simply, the wing will enable drivers to overtake with greater ease by reducing drag and increasing straightline speed, much like the current F-duct. By only allowing chasing drivers to use it during the race, it ensures that, unlike the F-duct or KERS, only those who are looking to overtake will be able to benefit from it. The driver in front, who is already disadvantaged on the straights by not having a slipstream, will essentially be a sitting duck for any rival close enough.
In qualifying, there will be no restriction on the use of the MRW, it will be free to use whenever and wherever a driver chooses. It will therefore act as an F-duct, used whenever the driver is on full throttle to increase speed, before the wing returns to normal when the driver brakes. This will force teams to gear their cars with the MRW in mind, meaning they won't be reaching the 18,000 rev limiter when it is used during the race.
At the start of the race, the MRW will be disabled in its default position for the first two laps of the race. This is to stop pole position being a disadvantage, as otherwise the polesitter would be the only person not allowed to use the MRW on the first lap, a significant disadvantage. The MRW will also to be disabled for the first lap or two following a safety car period, for the same reason that the lead driver would be unfairly disadvantaged.
From lap three onwards, any driver who is one second or less behind a rival will be able to use the MRW. The time gap will be measured at various timing loops scattered around the track (not just the sector timing positions) and once the computer recognises that a chasing driver is within one second of a rival he will be given a notification on his steering wheel through the standard ECU that the MRW is available for use.
The MRW will only be activated upon the driver pressing a special button in his steering wheel, and the wing will stay in its low-drag position until the driver presses the brakes. The MRW will also return to default if the driver crosses another timing loop having already passed his rival on-track (at which time the overtaken driver will have the MRW available for use).
From a technical point of view, the MRW was proposed by the Formula One overtaking working group to give a chasing car 15km/h top speed advantage on the straight. This is similar to the top speed advantage drivers get when slipstreaming, so in combination with each other it should be more than enough to successfully pull off an overtaking manoeuvre on any long straight.
Rear wing regulations at present require there to be a minimum 10mm slot gap between the two main planes of the rear wing. The regulations governing the MRW will allow a maximum 50mm slot gap between the two main planes when the MRW is activated. However, unlike the moveable front wing that was unsuccessfully introduced in 2009 to improve overtaking, the MRW will have just two settings, 'on' (at 10mm slot gap or more) and 'off' (at 50mm slot gap or less).
If, as is feared, overtaking becomes too easy next season, it's likely that the wing will be changed, simply by reducing the maximum 50mm slot gap measurement. This will require just a small change to the operating mechanism, by reducing its range, whereas had the working group been shortsighted and needed to increase it to a greater slot gap to make overtaking easier, teams would have had to almost entirely redesign their control systems. It's therefore logical to aim for a larger than required slot gap and reduce it at a later stage if necessary.
Undoubtedly the MRW will be implemented with the tremendous safety standard we have grown to know in Formula One, but whether it will produce the desired effect or not is another matter entirely. Nevertheless, FOTA must be admired for attempting something new. The fans asked for more overtaking and it looks like they'll get just that.
http://www.manipef1.com/blog/articles/33/
Action everywhere you look today! Red Bull front row, expected to walk it, Lewis vs Fernando at the start tomorrow too, Jenson right the way down in P14 - can he put in a great recovery drive?
Hugely looking forward to it, I'll take some pictures tomorrow and upload a few
Hugely looking forward to it, I'll take some pictures tomorrow and upload a few
Haha, "Not bad for a number 2 driver". Nice Webber
Serious Flex
start was fun, middle was a bit meh
Last edited by menzo (2010-07-11 06:36:49)
Stewards have it in for Alonso and Ferrari. That penalty was stupidly harsh. It wasn't even his fault, it was his race engineers fault; who didn't tell him to let Kubica past when he asked. Fucking retards that Ferrari are. They constantly screw up.