Government Motors and

2010-06-09 21:25:37

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Harmor: Error_Name_Not_Found; +605|6834|San Diego, CA, USA

GM Recalling 1.5 Million Vehicles for Fire Hazard

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Fox News wrote:
General Motors Co. is recalling nearly 1.37 million vehicles because a washer fluid heater module could overheat and cause a fire, the National Highway Safety Administration said Tuesday.

The recall covers the 2006-2009 Buick Lucerne, Cadillac DTS, Hummer H2; 2008-2009 Buick Enclave and Cadillac CTS; and 2007-2009 Cadillac Escalade, Escalade ESV, Escalade EXT, Chevrolet Avalanche, Silverado, Suburban, Tahoe, GMC Acadia, Sierra, Yukon, Yukon XL, Saturn Outlook and the 2009 model year Chevrolet Traverse.

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AND...

Chrysler Recalling Nearly 600,000 Vehicles

Fox News wrote:
Fearing the risk of fire, brake failure and sticking accelerator pedals, U.S. automaker Chrysler made a slew of vehicle recalls, U.S. government documents showed Monday.

The Michigan-based firm recalled almost 600,000 vehicles across four models, documents from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) showed.

The recall includes 288,968 Jeep Wranglers for faults that could cause friction between an inner fender and tubing, leading to break failure.

A total of 284,831 Dodge Grand Caravans and Chrysler Town & Country models were also recalled because of ill-fitted wiring that poses a fire risk.

Around 25,336 Dodge Caliber and Jeep Compass models were also being recalled for problems with a sticking accelerator pedal.

It was just the latest in a raft of recalls from Chrysler and other vehicle manufacturers.

On June 4, Chrysler recalled about 34,700 Dodge Caliber vehicles worldwide over problems with sticky acceleration pedals.

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Reminds me of this opinion piece by John Stossel:

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Government Motors at Work

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You wonder how in bed the media is with the government. Two of the three US auto makers are announcing recalls this week and you barely hear a blurb about it. Yet when Toyota had a recall with the SAME problem one the recalls above is having it was all over the news for a month.

BTW, Toyota vehicles are more American than a GM or Chrysler vehicle.

2010-06-09 21:28:17

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Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,816|6391|eXtreme to the maX

Two of the three US auto makers are announcing recalls this week and you barely hear a blurb about it. Yet when Toyota had a recall with the SAME problem one the recalls above is having it was all over the news for a month.

Funny that.

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2010-06-10 02:26:26

#3

Karbin: Member; +42|6580

First I've heard of about the Caliber.

The rest, have made the news here. However........

What you did not mention was that there have been no reported fires or failures. I don't think Toyota can say that about their........ problem.
That makes it look like this was found out through routine maintenance checks.

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2010-06-10 02:33:32

#4

Varegg: Support fanatic :-); +2,206|7095|Nårvei

Recalls happens all the time AND to all brands ...

Wait behind the line ..............................................................

2010-06-10 06:26:07

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Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,816|6391|eXtreme to the maX

Chrysler says the pedals were made by the same company that made pedals involved in a recall of more than two million Toyotas earlier this year.

http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news … -xmii.html
Oops, so Chrysler took longer to react than Toyota?

Chrysler says the SUVs have "smart brake" technology allowing the brake to override the accelerator pedal.

Dunno about that.

Karbin wrote:
That makes it look like this was found out through routine maintenance checks.

Unlikely I think.

Fuck Israel

2010-06-10 07:21:52

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Varegg: Support fanatic :-); +2,206|7095|Nårvei

Dilbert_X wrote:
Chrysler says the pedals were made by the same company that made pedals involved in a recall of more than two million Toyotas earlier this year.
http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news … -xmii.html
Oops, so Chrysler took longer to react than Toyota?

Guess they will be fined also ...

Dilbert_X wrote:
Chrysler says the SUVs have "smart brake" technology allowing the brake to override the accelerator pedal.
Dunno about that.

I do

Dilbert_X wrote:
Karbin wrote:
That makes it look like this was found out through routine maintenance checks.
Unlikely I think.

Not so unlikely as you like to think ...

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2010-06-10 07:24:56

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pace51: Boom?; +194|5458|Markham, Ontario

Dilbert_X wrote:
Two of the three US auto makers are announcing recalls this week and you barely hear a blurb about it. Yet when Toyota had a recall with the SAME problem one the recalls above is having it was all over the news for a month.
Funny that.

Yeah... but it's a good reason you don't here about GM as much. Giving negative press to foreign companies and keeping GM's problems hidden supports GM, and the North American economy.

2010-06-10 07:26:30

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Varegg: Support fanatic :-); +2,206|7095|Nårvei

pace51 wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
Two of the three US auto makers are announcing recalls this week and you barely hear a blurb about it. Yet when Toyota had a recall with the SAME problem one the recalls above is having it was all over the news for a month.
Funny that.
Yeah... but it's a good reason you don't here about GM as much. Giving negative press to foreign companies and keeping GM's problems hidden supports GM, and the North American economy.

You gotta be kidding me?

Wait behind the line ..............................................................

2010-06-10 07:29:33

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mcminty: Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.; +879|7006|Sydney, Australia

Varegg wrote:
pace51 wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:

Funny that.
Yeah... but it's a good reason you don't here about GM as much. Giving negative press to foreign companies and keeping GM's problems hidden supports GM, and the North American economy.

You gotta be kidding me?

Be nice

but really pace

2010-06-10 07:30:20

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11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5522|Cleveland, Ohio

Dilbert_X wrote:
Two of the three US auto makers are announcing recalls this week and you barely hear a blurb about it. Yet when Toyota had a recall with the SAME problem one the recalls above is having it was all over the news for a month.
Funny that.

well the person who said that needs to pay attention

2010-06-10 07:31:32

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Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,816|6391|eXtreme to the maX

Oh come on, helping GM hide their faults helps the economy as a whole, like not eating french fries on account of they're french.

Fuck Israel

2010-06-10 07:36:16

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pace51: Boom?; +194|5458|Markham, Ontario

Disregard my earlier statement. I just remembered about branch plants.

2010-06-10 07:38:16

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mcminty: Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.; +879|7006|Sydney, Australia

pace51 wrote:
Disregard my earlier statement. I just remembered about branch plants.

Lolwut.. explain what you mean there..

2010-06-10 07:39:46

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pace51: Boom?; +194|5458|Markham, Ontario

mcminty wrote:
pace51 wrote:
Disregard my earlier statement. I just remembered about branch plants.
Lolwut.. explain what you mean there..

Toyota has many of their cars built in the USA. These branchplants provide jobs to people, Americans. Also, Toyota must have hired Americans before.

2010-06-10 07:48:34

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Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5643|London, England

pace51 wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
Two of the three US auto makers are announcing recalls this week and you barely hear a blurb about it. Yet when Toyota had a recall with the SAME problem one the recalls above is having it was all over the news for a month.
Funny that.
Yeah... but it's a good reason you don't here about GM as much. Giving negative press to foreign companies and keeping GM's problems hidden supports GM, and the North American economy.

And totally fucks over the consumer.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-06-10 07:50:31

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pace51: Boom?; +194|5458|Markham, Ontario

JohnG@lt wrote:
pace51 wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
Funny that.
Yeah... but it's a good reason you don't here about GM as much. Giving negative press to foreign companies and keeping GM's problems hidden supports GM, and the North American economy.
And totally fucks over the consumer.

Well, yeah. That's business for ya.

2010-06-10 07:51:57

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-CARNIFEX-[LOC]: Da Blooze; +111|6939

The manner in which these issues came to light is far different.

There were some high-profile media stories about accelerator issues in Toyotas - one involved an off-duty CHP officer and his family dying. This is the sort of thing that catches media attention, and as the apparent problems mounted and led to a recall, it provided a continuous story to cover for months.

I'm sure the big automakers here started checking out their cars and taking preventative steps in the hopes of avoiding the media fallout that would happen should similar incidents occur.

They're just covering their bases TBH.

(Although they probably do exercise a lot of behind-the-scenes control...)

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2010-06-10 07:53:57

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Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7001

Toyota America still employs loads of Americans tbh. Companies now are moving towards being more globalized than nationalized, which is a good thing for everybody.

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2010-06-10 08:36:41

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=NHB=Shadow: hi; +322|6651|California

am i safe with my 2010 silverado? lol

2010-06-10 08:42:24

#20

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6785|so randum

pace51 wrote:
mcminty wrote:
pace51 wrote:
Disregard my earlier statement. I just remembered about branch plants.
Lolwut.. explain what you mean there..
Toyota has many of their cars built in the USA. These branchplants provide jobs to people, Americans. Also, Toyota must have hired Americans before.

...

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2010-06-10 08:44:58

#21

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5544|foggy bottom

john stossel is such a ginormous douche bag. I heard about this days ago.

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2010-06-10 10:43:12

#22

13/f/taiwan: Member; +940|5984

Last week I received a recall notice by Suzuki. All their 199-2004 XL-7 brands were recalled because of a defect with the accelerator cable. Only took like 30 minutes to fix at their shop.

Varegg wrote:
Recalls happens all the time AND to all brands ...

2010-06-10 11:01:58

#23

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6814|Global Command

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this sounded good until i realized it was owned by gm.

2010-06-10 19:19:20

#24

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6690|North Carolina

Harmor wrote:
You wonder how in bed the media is with the government. Two of the three US auto makers are announcing recalls this week and you barely hear a blurb about it. Yet when Toyota had a recall with the SAME problem one the recalls above is having it was all over the news for a month.

BTW, Toyota vehicles are more American than a GM or Chrysler vehicle.

A lot of the reason why the Toyota recall got more press was because they didn't make a recall until people died first.

If you recall before something like that happens, then you're less likely to get press.

It's not a conspiracy, it's just a matter of controversy and sensationalism.

2010-06-10 19:21:56

#25

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6690|North Carolina

JohnG@lt wrote:
pace51 wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
Funny that.
Yeah... but it's a good reason you don't here about GM as much. Giving negative press to foreign companies and keeping GM's problems hidden supports GM, and the North American economy.
And totally fucks over the consumer.

Well, we fuck over the consumer so much nowadays that if it's anything short of bailouts, ecological disasters, health risks, or cartel behavior, then it's just standard business.

Supporting consumer rights is what's more newsworthy these days.

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