You're right, it wouldn't change peoples behaviour, unless the mods put in some stricter rules. Actually, the mods shouldn't have to resort to strictness, but if people don't behave in the one place (DST) they're supposed to behave in, then strictness may be needed.Dilbert_X wrote:
Keep it as it is, dividing it up wouldn't change people's behaviour.
Maybe an auto-close feature after 20 pages, 50 if its a lowing thread.
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So we want to help spammers - don't think so.Pace51 wrote:
Subsections would increase posting. If someone has eight debate topics, their not gonna put them all in DST because they'd be called a spammer, or take away from the other arguments. But if there were seperate sections, that person could put one or two per section and they wouldn't clutter up anything.
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I don't mean help spammers, I mean speed up DST a bit. Give people more things to debate about, and make it easier to find stuff.Dilbert_X wrote:
So we want to help spammers - don't think so.Pace51 wrote:
Subsections would increase posting. If someone has eight debate topics, their not gonna put them all in DST because they'd be called a spammer, or take away from the other arguments. But if there were seperate sections, that person could put one or two per section and they wouldn't clutter up anything.
DAST is fairly slow-moving, and we don't have dozens of spam threads locked every day so its not a huge problem.
Oh. I just go into the sections by clicking. Dilbert, I agree with you that more sections would probably bring spam.Pug wrote:
Well, there's subsections in EE, but I don't search that way - I just hit "new posts"
I like 1 and two. However, what about extra mod supervision as well as stricter rules. Or... what about more sub-sections?Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Read through the thread again, revisiting the topic after the enthusiasm has died down to more reasonable levels, what do you guys actually want to implement?
1 - Cut off 1 on 1 arguments and divert them to some other place to make OPs more accessible.
2 - A more stringent code of conduct than general site rules, specifying things like what contribution means in this section and what an OP should resemble.
3 - Stickies for the obviously broad topics.
4 - Maybe delete by editing the post with "post deleted, flame, -FM" or something to that effect, pretty iffy on this point.
subsections not needed...Flaming_Maniac wrote:
I don't think more subsections is going to happen.
This this this this.AussieReaper wrote:
But you can avoid a subsection and avoid the spam... or even users much more easily.
I'd like to see a DST section that didn't involve the same arguments, and could just contain the tech/science topics which are generally SERIOUS TALK and not circular DEBATE.
1. nope censorshipFlaming_Maniac wrote:
Read through the thread again, revisiting the topic after the enthusiasm has died down to more reasonable levels, what do you guys actually want to implement?
1 - Cut off 1 on 1 arguments and divert them to some other place to make OPs more accessible.
2 - A more stringent code of conduct than general site rules, specifying things like what contribution means in this section and what an OP should resemble.
3 - Stickies for the obviously broad topics.
4 - Maybe delete by editing the post with "post deleted, flame, -FM" or something to that effect, pretty iffy on this point.
then stay out of those threads or better yet, if you want serious information, stop seeking it in a gaming forum and do some real research.mtb0minime wrote:
This this this this.AussieReaper wrote:
But you can avoid a subsection and avoid the spam... or even users much more easily.
I'd like to see a DST section that didn't involve the same arguments, and could just contain the tech/science topics which are generally SERIOUS TALK and not circular DEBATE.
It'd be nice to get some serious information I'm actually interested in and avoid the illegal immigration / homosexuality / Israel vs. Palestine bullshit.
Will more mod supervision happen... because tat could help. Cutting off derailments quickly.pace51 wrote:
I like 1 and two. However, what about extra mod supervision as well as stricter rules. Or... what about more sub-sections?Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Read through the thread again, revisiting the topic after the enthusiasm has died down to more reasonable levels, what do you guys actually want to implement?
1 - Cut off 1 on 1 arguments and divert them to some other place to make OPs more accessible.
2 - A more stringent code of conduct than general site rules, specifying things like what contribution means in this section and what an OP should resemble.
3 - Stickies for the obviously broad topics.
4 - Maybe delete by editing the post with "post deleted, flame, -FM" or something to that effect, pretty iffy on this point.
How is cutting off people, codes of conduct to the point of stifling, or deletion, NOT censorship?Flaming_Maniac wrote:
How is any of that censorship?
Well I'm not really actively seeking it, I'd just like to come across interesting non-political articles that I wasn't previously aware of.lowing wrote:
then stay out of those threads or better yet, if you want serious information, stop seeking it in a gaming forum and do some real research.mtb0minime wrote:
This this this this.AussieReaper wrote:
But you can avoid a subsection and avoid the spam... or even users much more easily.
I'd like to see a DST section that didn't involve the same arguments, and could just contain the tech/science topics which are generally SERIOUS TALK and not circular DEBATE.
It'd be nice to get some serious information I'm actually interested in and avoid the illegal immigration / homosexuality / Israel vs. Palestine bullshit.
Because FM has a god complex and can't understand why people won't conform to what he wants them to be. For all his talk about freedom, in the end he's nothing more than Dilbert_X with a 'badge'.lowing wrote:
How is cutting off people, codes of conduct to the point of stifling, or deletion, NOT censorship?Flaming_Maniac wrote:
How is any of that censorship?
yeah one that shields people that is not an open forum now is it?Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Cutting off people by directing them to a different, more appropriate thread.
Code of conduct to the point of, stop making bullshit posts.
Deletion is already done as it is. The only point there was making it more public. I don't hear you complain of censorship very often right now.
all ya gotta do is read what ya want, skip what ya don't want, ignore what ya hate and respond to what interests you ...not much more to it. No need to censor any of it.mtb0minime wrote:
Well I'm not really actively seeking it, I'd just like to come across interesting non-political articles that I wasn't previously aware of.lowing wrote:
then stay out of those threads or better yet, if you want serious information, stop seeking it in a gaming forum and do some real research.mtb0minime wrote:
This this this this.
It'd be nice to get some serious information I'm actually interested in and avoid the illegal immigration / homosexuality / Israel vs. Palestine bullshit.
Nothing wrong with you guys debating politics and whatnot, but it'd be nice if the full scope of D&ST was brought back.
That's what I do, and I never said anything about censorship. Just a sub-forum or something like that would be nice. It'd be nice to not have to wade through the same 101 Palestine vs. Israel threads and find something about advances in science or whatever.lowing wrote:
all ya gotta do is read what ya want, skip what ya don't want, ignore what ya hate and respond to what interests you ...not much more to it. No need to censor any of it.mtb0minime wrote:
Well I'm not really actively seeking it, I'd just like to come across interesting non-political articles that I wasn't previously aware of.lowing wrote:
then stay out of those threads or better yet, if you want serious information, stop seeking it in a gaming forum and do some real research.
Nothing wrong with you guys debating politics and whatnot, but it'd be nice if the full scope of D&ST was brought back.
don't think for a second, EVERYONE would not go there for whatever free for all you opened up. Then you are going to have to start censoring that.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
No? Another thread in DST, or in this case maybe a subsection. Anyone could post, the point is not to make it ONLY those people it's to keep the OP as open to discussion as possible for people late to the party.
Apart from that if "stupidity takes care of itself" is your philosophy, I don't know what you're doing on BF2S, because that is not even close to site policy.
DST is a subforum of the BF2S community. WHen that subforum gets hammered they will stiffle that as well. WHat is the point?mtb0minime wrote:
That's what I do, and I never said anything about censorship. Just a sub-forum or something like that would be nice. It'd be nice to not have to wade through the same 101 Palestine vs. Israel threads and find something about advances in science or whatever.lowing wrote:
all ya gotta do is read what ya want, skip what ya don't want, ignore what ya hate and respond to what interests you ...not much more to it. No need to censor any of it.mtb0minime wrote:
Well I'm not really actively seeking it, I'd just like to come across interesting non-political articles that I wasn't previously aware of.
Nothing wrong with you guys debating politics and whatnot, but it'd be nice if the full scope of D&ST was brought back.
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