wingman358
The Original
+11|6625

d4rkph03n1x wrote:

If the player joins a squad while dead, the player will not be able to use the squad leader as a spawn point until they have respawned once.
[...]The rule quoted above, is completely, and entirely, bullshit. That was such a huge part in the game.[...]
I, for one, completely agree. I'm glad you brought it up, and I hope it's one of those things that EA either gets tosses out before patch release or removes in a future patch. It's an essential feature to the dynamic battlefield... it adds to the game.

What will taking it away do for the game? I can't think of any reason why its removal would be beneficial...

d4rkph03n1x wrote:

[...]As for Air dropping cars? What the Fuck? And I suppose we won't be able to see the massive Aircraft that would be needed for such a job, and we'd also have to explain why an aircraft such as that could fly in areas like karkand and Sharqi, with no airstrip.[...]
I highly doubt you'll be able to have aircraft dropped on request. That wouldn't make any sense. First of all, you can't take off in an airplane just anywhere. You need a pretty good strip of land in order to take off. Also, the dominance of airplanes means they probably won't be infinitely available (if at all). You also have to consider real life... have you ever seen or heard of an aircraft being airdropped? I've seen vehicles such as jeeps and tanks being airdropped, but airplanes and helicopters? The nice people at EA/Dice aren't COMPLETELY incompetent. Wii (haha @ Nintendo marketing) must trust that EA/Dice won't be stupid...
[n00b]Tyler
Banned
+505|6564|Iceland
ugh they reduced SF missles on choppers too? making the game suck.
xaven
Member
+25|6703|Berlin

Zukabazuka wrote:

Seems like you have to work in squad for real now and not just jump between them. Most of the time people just joined them as spawnpont, ok I did it to but few times I been in good squads. Bring in more teamwork and the SL should now be more careful instead of going in to death. So you should stick to one squad now instead of jumping around
all you have to do is: camp in a corner, see who's the squadleader, kill him first and PKM down the medic too. done.

and now imagine this: you make a squad at karkand trying to get through the lines, but nobody joins your squad. you got it through the lines, ask for backup... but, wtf, nobody joins your squad! why? they can't spawn. face the APC and accept your fate.
KStryker
Member
+1|6676|New York

Elamdri wrote:

I really can't see the vehicle dropping thing being good. You know people are gonna start pulling shit like dropping HUMVEE's on the top of the hotel at Karkand and tearing shit up.
lol, so true...its already abused and it aint out yet
danCer
teh m0nsta
+314|6685|Germany
I think the change about the joining of squads will be great.
A lot of times people just jump in your squads for one flag to be captured and are not interested in good teamwork at all.
BlueScreen
I am the pwnage! Bitches!
+5|6709|Finland
And that patch will kill whole clan community (I know it because I'm been in top EU clan). Game has been faster because squad jumping and it's just stupid to make this big changes after game has been out almost year (well it was also stupid with 1.2 patch). Sure this will be good thing for public players (or maybe won't?) but that's the problem.. EA and DICE are listening only public players because there's more of them and that mean money and they think only money. FUCK EA, FUCK DICE. I'm finaly done with this game. This game was something great when I bought it, but now... Now it just sucks ! So thank you for making this game shit.
Puppy
Member
+11|6632
1.31 bots are gonna be sht every other bf with bots the bots suck they dont listen to radio called most of the time they stick next to bases and dont do nothin and they just suck...thats my 2 cents
Longshanks3rd
Member
+0|6542

KStryker wrote:

Elamdri wrote:

I really can't see the vehicle dropping thing being good. You know people are gonna start pulling shit like dropping HUMVEE's on the top of the hotel at Karkand and tearing shit up.
lol, so true...its already abused and it aint out yet
hey smart guys how are you gonna get up to that humvee on top of the hotel? not on a ranked server.  oh and about the whole thing about dropping the humvee on an enemy runway to block the jets...jets have guns..they blow up the car and then take off..not a huge deal. this vehicle thing isn't going to be that big of a change at all.
Zukabazuka
Member
+23|6655

xaven wrote:

Zukabazuka wrote:

Seems like you have to work in squad for real now and not just jump between them. Most of the time people just joined them as spawnpont, ok I did it to but few times I been in good squads. Bring in more teamwork and the SL should now be more careful instead of going in to death. So you should stick to one squad now instead of jumping around
all you have to do is: camp in a corner, see who's the squadleader, kill him first and PKM down the medic too. done.

and now imagine this: you make a squad at karkand trying to get through the lines, but nobody joins your squad. you got it through the lines, ask for backup... but, wtf, nobody joins your squad! why? they can't spawn. face the APC and accept your fate.
In other words stay in a squad and work as a team, most of the time its works better. That was the reason with squads.
danCer
teh m0nsta
+314|6685|Germany

Zukabazuka wrote:

xaven wrote:

Zukabazuka wrote:

Seems like you have to work in squad for real now and not just jump between them. Most of the time people just joined them as spawnpont, ok I did it to but few times I been in good squads. Bring in more teamwork and the SL should now be more careful instead of going in to death. So you should stick to one squad now instead of jumping around
all you have to do is: camp in a corner, see who's the squadleader, kill him first and PKM down the medic too. done.

and now imagine this: you make a squad at karkand trying to get through the lines, but nobody joins your squad. you got it through the lines, ask for backup... but, wtf, nobody joins your squad! why? they can't spawn. face the APC and accept your fate.
In other words stay in a squad and work as a team, most of the time its works better. That was the reason with squads.
Hear, hear! That's what it was meant to be.
People joining your Squad only after getting through the enemy aren't really teamplayers anyway and can be renounced anyway.
JimKong
Member
+31|6612|Ohio
Wow. A bunch of "fixes" to problems that affected my gameplay 0%!!!!!
Viper007Bond
Moderator Emeritus
+236|6775|Portland, OR, USA

Airdropping vehicles? Fucking sweet! No more being stuck out in the middle of nowhere.
https://bf3s.com/sigs/044900892044e7fc95e599e832a086ae9bcd7efb.png
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|6690|California

Viper007Bond wrote:

Airdropping vehicles? Fucking sweet! No more being stuck out in the middle of nowhere.
Airdropping vehicles? Fucking sweet! something to do when you cant get off the carrier!
(DEMOLITION DERBY BITCHES)
CraniumShot
Member
+0|6673|Knoxville, TN

Naughty_Om wrote:

guys... u know whats good about this... they change the gameplay.... it makes it challenging and requires the good players to find new tactics to get more pts... i like these changes... EA made no mention of the squad hopping. lets not all freak out until it comes out... please, just give it a chance... and remember, its only a PEEK. not all of it....

all im asking is please, dont whine yet until it comes out.......
Good point.
xaven
Member
+25|6703|Berlin

stryyker wrote:

Viper007Bond wrote:

Airdropping vehicles? Fucking sweet! No more being stuck out in the middle of nowhere.
Airdropping vehicles? Fucking sweet! something to do when you cant get off the carrier!
(DEMOLITION DERBY BITCHES)
the one who points out the flip side of the coin. +1
SFCCDailey
Banned
+106|6685|USA
I would be happy if they would just fix the damn Tactical Support Badge! Noting else just that!
ATC
Member
+58|6714|...
this patch will be so so gay.
TXGFpoman
Member
+2|6643
Squad hopping is a problem when:
1 guy creates a squad, jumps in a jeep, hauls arse to the main base. Jumps out , and 5 people spawn on him, then one makes his own squad and the last 2 people spawn on him. almost instantly the whole 8 person team is at the base WITHOUT having to fight for it. That is an exploit. Period. Whi not load up an APC or 2 with the squad and roll in as a team?

As for the single guy in a base asking for backup, Quit trying to be freaking Rambo. Roll into the base WITH your squad. Then the backup is already there! what a concept. My group plays together all the time and we play as a REAL squad. We usually clear out servers when we roll in there. The game is about sticking together with your squad, working as a team, and shooting skill, Not the ability to suicide and join a squad with better location.

Last edited by TXGFpoman (2006-05-01 11:30:17)

markH262
Member
+0|6620
Here's the bug (not really a bug) that I wish they could fix. It's for those people who have figured out how to use the C4 to blow themselves up on top of a building that noone can normally get to!! I've seen them do it on top of the tall building just before the train wreck in Strike at Karkand. There were 6 of them on top of that building firing AT through the building from my perspective on the ground.  Nothing could hit them. Artillery seemed to just exploded around them and not on top of them. You couldn't get a grenade up there and they kept shooting me!! Also something about pressing F3 to only take 1/2 the damage from a C4.

Last edited by markH262 (2006-05-01 12:43:52)

Zukabazuka
Member
+23|6655
So far what I know the server should have friendly fire off and they use C4 to blow other people up in the air untill they land on that area.

Last edited by Zukabazuka (2006-05-01 13:20:09)

137[CSi]
Headshot Specialist
+104|6807|Woodland Hills, Ca

TXGFpoman wrote:

Squad hopping is a problem when:
1 guy creates a squad, jumps in a jeep, hauls arse to the main base. Jumps out , and 5 people spawn on him, then one makes his own squad and the last 2 people spawn on him. almost instantly the whole 8 person team is at the base WITHOUT having to fight for it. That is an exploit. Period. Whi not load up an APC or 2 with the squad and roll in as a team?
I cannot agree with this more, people bitch and moan about Wake Island being so one sided. But if one guy actually pulls his head out of his ass and manages to camp the airfield as a sniper popping noob jet pilots out of the seat. Asking everyone to spawn on them. Then they leave the squad make their own squad everyone suicides on the essex to spawn on the 3 new squad leaders and before you know it the whole island has been overtaken.

People will still exploit it even though it will cost them -4 points instead of -2 points.

There are a lot of changes I've been told about by the beta testers and also people who have played armored fury and quite frankly I like most of them.

The nerfing of the missles on the chopper is only going to make me sad concerning the hind, imo it will seperate those with skills from the people who just spam 14 missles at a target and land 4.

Now you will have to really aim for your targets.

I've flown with some chopper pilots who are REALLY CONSERVATIVE about their ammo and dont miss a shot. I've tried doing that sometimes but in desperation a shower of go fuck yourself is always needed.

Anyway I look foreward to any changes and all of the new bugs that will accompany these changes.
metatr0n84
Member
+10|6555|Germany
any new news WHEN the patch will be out?
G3|Genius
Pope of BF2s
+355|6596|Sea to globally-cooled sea
That whole squad issue also makes it so that if you're a squad leader and you die, you can't leave and rejoin the squad and spawn on your buddy who is still alive.  Since a commander can resign they should make it so that a squad leader can resign as well.

I also think that the commander should be allowed to spawn on any of his squad leaders.  There have been times when, as commander, I really wanted to help one of my squads but just couldn't.

If they're doing vehicle drops, they should also do boat drops for when you're out in the middle of the ocean because you bailed out of your chopper just before a tank on the island gunned it out of the sky.  Swimming to the mainland can get really freakin boring..
malarkeycoon
Member
+16|6610|Cardiff
The squad changes are going to make the squad leaders job a lot more important. They therefore need to make their point scoring system different. To stay alive they need to stay out of the action a bit more and will therefore have less ability to get kills and rack up points. I think they should therefore be given a small percentage of team points for every point that a squad member scores. This would have course have to be regulated by something. I'm not really sure what.... maybe the number of times squad members use them as a spawn point away from your own bases? Or maybe their number of deaths in that round (they should have very few). Who knows.
Shadow_Omega
Member
+16|6558
wow,alot of folks are afraid of change...decent players know how to adapt,shitty players sit there and bitch and moan.

by the way,any word on a possible release date?

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