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Flaming_Maniac wrote:

How did the oil spill inordinately affect black people?

how did Katrina inordinately affect black people? I mean more than just blacks live along the gulf or am I wrong about that?

Katrina affected everyone there, as does this oil spill.

burnzz wrote:

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my apologies. close this if you wish.

lowing is admitting bush didnt give a fuck about new orleans?  wow.

lowing wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

How did the oil spill inordinately affect black people?

how did Katrina inordinately affect black people? I mean more than just blacks live along the gulf or am I wrong about that?

Katrina affected everyone there, as does this oil spill.

A relatively large percentage of black people live in New Orleans, plus an inordinate number of the people that were unable to leave for whatever reason were also ethnic, so when the federal government fucks it up idiots will say the federal government is racist.

What is even more stupid is asking why a completely dissimilar situation that hardly affects black people at all, just as little as it actually affects the lives of everyone, does not have the same idiots saying racist.

You are at least as caught up with people claiming bullshit racism as the people claiming bullshit racism in the first place. Quit it with all the straw man crap, wait until there is actually bullshit outrage that you can point to in specific instances (in other words, make sure it exists) before you denounce it.

eleven bravo wrote:

lowing is admitting bush didnt give a fuck about new orleans?  wow.

Nope I don't speak for Bush, but I will tell ya I don't give a fuck about New Orleans.

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

lowing wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

How did the oil spill inordinately affect black people?

how did Katrina inordinately affect black people? I mean more than just blacks live along the gulf or am I wrong about that?

Katrina affected everyone there, as does this oil spill.

A relatively large percentage of black people live in New Orleans, plus an inordinate number of the people that were unable to leave for whatever reason were also ethnic, so when the federal government fucks it up idiots will say the federal government is racist.

What is even more stupid is asking why a completely dissimilar situation that hardly affects black people at all, just as little as it actually affects the lives of everyone, does not have the same idiots saying racist.

You are at least as caught up with people claiming bullshit racism as the people claiming bullshit racism in the first place. Quit it with all the straw man crap, wait until there is actually bullshit outrage that you can point to in specific instances (in other words, make sure it exists) before you denounce it.

ummm the fact that there isn't "bullshit outrage" after a month and a half is my observation. Katrina wasn't 5 days old and people were screaming racism.

lowing wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

While there is certainly hypocrisy on the part of people like Kanye, you have to remember that this spill was not a natural disaster.

It's generally assumed that the government is supposed to aid the public during a natural disaster.  When a company is behind a disaster, the burden for cleaning things up should primarily be on that company.

Granted, in the case of Katrina, FEMA was less at fault than Ray Nagin and the Louisiana state government.

the fact that it is a man made disaster, that is obviously beyond the abilites of the private company to deal with, the govt., should take over responsibility for stopping it, then worry about charging the private company later. Or do you suggest it continues until BP pulls their head out?

The government is starting to move to action now.  However, they began by letting BP fix the situation.  This wasn't solely a push by Obama either.  BP was attempting "damage control" quite literally by independently acting to fix things.

Now that it is clear that an oil company can't fix this by itself, it will justify more regulation of offshore drilling -- something BP probably wanted to avoid happening by cleaning things up on their own (among avoiding other things as well).

Turquoise wrote:

lowing wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

While there is certainly hypocrisy on the part of people like Kanye, you have to remember that this spill was not a natural disaster.

It's generally assumed that the government is supposed to aid the public during a natural disaster.  When a company is behind a disaster, the burden for cleaning things up should primarily be on that company.

Granted, in the case of Katrina, FEMA was less at fault than Ray Nagin and the Louisiana state government.

the fact that it is a man made disaster, that is obviously beyond the abilites of the private company to deal with, the govt., should take over responsibility for stopping it, then worry about charging the private company later. Or do you suggest it continues until BP pulls their head out?

The government is starting to move to action now.  However, they began by letting BP fix the situation.  This wasn't solely a push by Obama either.  BP was attempting "damage control" quite literally by independently acting to fix things.

Now that it is clear that an oil company can't fix this by itself, it will justify more regulation of offshore drilling -- something BP probably wanted to avoid happening by cleaning things up on their own (among avoiding other things as well).

The peopel don't give a shit, they want results remember? No results a week after Katrina, no results after 1.5 moths for the oil spill. Yet Obama gets a pass by the public?

I assume that the lack of outcry has to do with the fact that this is not something that immediately and directly affected the population of people along the coast.  This is a huge environmental disaster and until we start seeing beaches full of dead fish and birds...the outcry will be slow to start.  Katrina was a disaster that was immediate and directly affected a population of people...now, why there isn't outcry about the fact that the aftermath of Katrina is still so devastating...not sure...as soon as the media dropped it, people stopped thinking about it.  Out of sight, out of mind.

eleven bravo wrote:

lowing wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

show me where i asked what you gave a fuck about, please?

Ya didn't, I just am making sure I told you for my own satisfaction

satisfied?

As long as you understand how I feel about that shithole, I am satisfied.

Turquoise wrote:

lowing wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

The government is starting to move to action now.  However, they began by letting BP fix the situation.  This wasn't solely a push by Obama either.  BP was attempting "damage control" quite literally by independently acting to fix things.

Now that it is clear that an oil company can't fix this by itself, it will justify more regulation of offshore drilling -- something BP probably wanted to avoid happening by cleaning things up on their own (among avoiding other things as well).

The peopel don't give a shit, they want results remember? No results a week after Katrina, no results after 1.5 moths for the oil spill. Yet Obama gets a pass by the public?

For the people who do give a shit, the blame is easiest to put on BP rather than Obama.

When it's a natural disaster, people usually skip the "blaming the source" stage and move onto blaming the government.

Yelling at the sky is less satisfying than yelling at the president or a corporation...  That's the difference between these situations.

The bitch about Katrina was the lack of action in response, so naturally it is due to racism in their eyes.

There is a lack of action in response by the Govt. here as well. where is the racism?