ruisleipa
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/ma … us-officer

An Afghan prosecutor has issued an arrest warrant for an American special forces commander over allegations that a police chief was murdered by a US-trained militia.

Brigadier General Ghulam Ranjbar, the chief military prosecutor in Kabul, has accused the US of creating an outlaw militia which allegedly shot dead Matiullah Qateh, the chief of police in the city of Kandahar.

The militia, which Ranjbar claimed is armed and trained by US special forces, also allegedly killed Kandahar's head of criminal investigations and two other officers, when they attempted to free one of their members from a courthouse.

"We lost one this country's best law enforcement officers for the [attempted] release of a mercenary," said Ranjbar, interviewed for a film to be shown on Channel 4 News tomorrow.

He accused American officials of refusing to hand over evidence or to permit his investigators to interview the special forces commander, known to Afghans only as "John or Johnny", who he alleges sanctioned the raid.

The arrest warrant, which has been circulated to border posts and airports, is an embarrassment for the US military, which is facing growing criticism for links to militias controlled by warlords. In Kandahar, the militias have been accused of murder, rape and extortion.

Ranjbar said an investigation found that the force that killed Qateh operated from Camp Gecko, in the hills outside Kandahar, a base for both US special forces and the CIA.

Officials in Kandahar said the militia supplies guards and is trained to work alongside special forces and intelligence officials in raids against Taliban targets.

"If you go to Kandahar, people say these guys pretend to be interpreters but they carry out night raids and assassinations," said Ranjbar. "We hear lots of strange and shocking stories."

He claimed that suspects arrested for the courthouse raid had confessed to being part of a 300-strong militia unit run by "Johnny". They said they "could not move a muscle and could not leave their base without Johnny's orders" Ranjbar said. "He was the head of the group and they [the Americans] were the ones paying them."

Colonel Wayne Shanks, a spokesman for the US military, denied that any US or other coalition forces were involved in the attack, and said those involved "were not acting on behalf of US or international forces".
Country's shit is fucked up right now I tell ya...
Benzin
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Afghanistan has been a messed up country for 3 decades now... not likely to change any time soon. The US is mostly in the wrong, however. After the war with the Soviets ended, the Americans pulled out without a care as to what the aftermath would be. Now we know.
Cybargs
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CapnNismo wrote:

Afghanistan has been a messed up country for 3 decades now... not likely to change any time soon. The US is mostly in the wrong, however. After the war with the Soviets ended, the Americans pulled out without a care as to what the aftermath would be. Now we know.
People don't want another nam. People bitch about occupying and rebuilding a country too.
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Benzin
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We had another Vietnam after the CIA and the US government pulled all support for the mujahedin once the Soviets left. The entire country descended into chaos and the most radical of the Islamists received all the support from Pakistan. As it was, the US had always let Pakistan dictate American policy in Afghanistan because the US never wanted to get their hands too dirty in the 80s. That led to the majority of the funding not going to moderate and royalist mujahedin commanders but rather to the most radical commanders such as Hekmatyar and then in the future to the Taliban.
11 Bravo
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CapnNismo wrote:

the Americans pulled out without a care as to what the aftermath would be. Now we know.
excuse me?  what is with this muppet talk?  we never pulled out ffs....never had troops there.  the pakis and saudis pulled out also if you have to put it that way.  and they are muslims.  two muslims versus one non muslim country.  why is your blame so misplaced and wrong?
FEOS
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He's talking about pulling our support (a la "Charlie Wilson's War").
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Benzin
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I'm sorry, you said the Pakistanis pulled out of Afghanistan? Read a book, the Pakistanis had clandestine troops on the ground helping to organize the Taliban and al Qaeda's militias in both advisory and direct combat roles. Then you figure the amount of Saudi money flowing not only the GDI, but also the Islamic charities that take in truck loads of cash from Saudi donors and you have a lack of any effort of control by the Saudi government to stop it, because Saudi Arabia is in and of itself an Islamist government.

Once the United States started cutting off all its active ties to Afghanistan, the Pakistanis moved in without having any American oversight anymore (there was never any to really begin with, but the USA didn't give a shit what happened, thereby allowing Pakistan's ISI to basically run the show). From there you only need to look at the winners of the Afghan civil wars and you'll know who Pakistan was throwing their weight behind.
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when they attempted to free one of their members from a courthouse.
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FEOS
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CapnNismo wrote:

I'm sorry, you said the Pakistanis pulled out of Afghanistan? Read a book, the Pakistanis had clandestine troops on the ground helping to organize the Taliban and al Qaeda's militias in both advisory and direct combat roles. Then you figure the amount of Saudi money flowing not only the GDI, but also the Islamic charities that take in truck loads of cash from Saudi donors and you have a lack of any effort of control by the Saudi government to stop it, because Saudi Arabia is in and of itself an Islamist government.

Once the United States started cutting off all its active ties to Afghanistan, the Pakistanis moved in without having any American oversight anymore (there was never any to really begin with, but the USA didn't give a shit what happened, thereby allowing Pakistan's ISI to basically run the show). From there you only need to look at the winners of the Afghan civil wars and you'll know who Pakistan was throwing their weight behind.
Perhaps you should read a book. Al Qaeda didn't exist until well after the US pulled chocks in Afghanistan.

Pakistan was more than happy to have the Taliban move in, as it got them out of Pakistan (where they originally came from).

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pace51
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CapnNismo wrote:

Afghanistan has been a messed up country for 3 decades now... not likely to change any time soon. The US is mostly in the wrong, however. After the war with the Soviets ended, the Americans pulled out without a care as to what the aftermath would be. Now we know.
Yeah. They helped the Kurds, but partly to stick it to the commies.

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