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2010-05-06 05:11:14

#1

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6935

http://reason.com/blog/2010/05/05/video … n-missouri

Bust into a guys house and shoot his dogs over a small amount of pot. What the fuck?

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2010-05-06 05:22:41

#2

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6960|Canberra, AUS

What the fuck, indeed.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2010-05-06 05:30:30

#3

Marlo Stanfield: online poker tax cheating; +122|5448

I didn't see the actual shooting so the dog could have attacked the officer for all we know.

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2010-05-06 05:31:04

#4

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6960|Canberra, AUS

Marlo Stanfield wrote:
I didn't see the actual shooting so the dog could have attached the officer for all we know.

The pitbull, maybe - but a corgi?!

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2010-05-06 05:37:43

#5

Marlo Stanfield: online poker tax cheating; +122|5448

Spark wrote:
Marlo Stanfield wrote:
I didn't see the actual shooting so the dog could have attached the officer for all we know.
The pitbull, maybe - but a corgi?!

Even if it was just a corgi, the police would still have the right to shoot it if it attacked. Furthermore, just going by the video and a blog post we really don't know the complete circumstances of them shooting the dog.

2010-05-06 05:38:20

#6

jord: Member; +2,382|6963|The North, beyond the wall.

If someone touched my dog id dedicate the rest of my life to getting the cunts back. Had him 15 years.
Pricks.

2010-05-06 06:00:20

#7

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6814|Global Command

It would have been better if they were all " hut two three four..." as they kicked in the door and terrorized the family. The dad should have known to buy his drugs from an official government approved mexican cartel.

2010-05-06 16:26:23

#8

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6690|North Carolina

Spark wrote:
Marlo Stanfield wrote:
I didn't see the actual shooting so the dog could have attached the officer for all we know.
The pitbull, maybe - but a corgi?!

Pitbulls are often pretty fucked up. They're even known to turn on their owners.

2010-05-06 16:31:15

#9

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5464|Sydney

Marlo Stanfield wrote:
Spark wrote:
Marlo Stanfield wrote:
I didn't see the actual shooting so the dog could have attached the officer for all we know.
The pitbull, maybe - but a corgi?!
Even if it was just a corgi, the police would still have the right to shoot it if it attacked. Furthermore, just going by the video and a blog post we really don't know the complete circumstances of them shooting the dog.

Have the right, surely, but do you really want to put in the report later "broke into house, shot small dog". You'd just get laughed at.

2010-05-06 16:47:43

#10

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6756

fucking C U N T S

A GRADE FUCKING CUNTS

search warrant for narcotics... with mp5's? shot a dog?

i cannot explain how fucked that poor guy must feel. in a cell, looking at time, and with a dead dog.

the cunts that they employ to do jobs like this are the dumb fucking cunts that dropout of college and have a major inferiority complex

narcs are useless pricks

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2010-05-06 16:50:55

#11

SEREMAKER: BABYMAKIN EXPERT √; +2,187|6854|Mountains of NC

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2010-05-06 16:54:02

#12

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6756

come on there was a little kid there and everything

a kilo of pot... maybe. a little bit for home use? it's just macho-bravado pricks storming in with their little curled up cocks

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2010-05-06 16:54:30

#13

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6886|132 and Bush

Turquoise wrote:
Spark wrote:
Marlo Stanfield wrote:
I didn't see the actual shooting so the dog could have attached the officer for all we know.
The pitbull, maybe - but a corgi?!
Pitbulls are often pretty fucked up. They're even known to turn on their owners.

Usually because the trend is that of assholes tend buy pit-bulls.

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2010-05-06 16:59:17

#14

King_County_Downy: shitfaced; +2,791|6882|Seattle

Spark wrote:
What the fuck, indeed.

Thirded. That was bullshit. I would be sooooooooooooooooooooo pissed if they shot my dog.

Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it

2010-05-06 17:07:12

#15

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5987|College Park, MD

I've heard of cops shooting dachshunds, AKA wiener dogs. Anyone who's ever owned a doxie knows they're sweet little critters who would certainly not pose a threat to a fucking police officer.

I understand that a lot of this is 'heat of the moment' and that they'd rather not risk getting bitten and getting an infection, but stuff like this really does make me lose respect for cops. I know not all of them are like this, but there is some sort of culture that makes this stuff acceptable. If cops and PDs required more judgment before shooting a dog, then things like this would probably be far more rare.

Something like this happened in Maryland a few years ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berwyn_Heights_drug_raid

I mean christ they sent a fucking SWAT team to pick up weed. If they were really interested in stopping drug usage they would have intercepted the package as soon as it was found. Instead they let it get to the recipient. And it turned out that the recipient didn't even buy the drugs. His family was just caught up in it. By the way, this recipient was the mayor of the fucking city.

End the drug war.

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2010-05-06 17:13:50

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DesertFox-: The very model of a modern major general; +796|6970|United States of America

While it seems like the child endangerment change is bullplop, I wouldn't say much else is wrong with what is presented. Can't say the author of that post is too impartial either as he writes "This is the blunt-end result of all the war imagery and militaristic rhetoric politicians have been spewing for the last 30 years—cops dressed like soldiers, barreling through the front door middle of the night, slaughtering the family pets, filling the house with bullets in the presence of children, then having the audacity to charge the parents with endangering their own kid" to make it seem as the police are sadistic bastards whereas much of what he describes, e.g. the dressing like soldiers, mid-night raid, shooting of dogs is done for the protection of the officers in the case that it isn't just one guy with some drugs. I did like how he then described them as "fillling the house with bullets" though---nice use of imagery for his rhetoric. Then again, it seems outrageous because most people act like drug laws are some sort of joke.

2010-05-06 18:01:53

#17

Ilocano: buuuurrrrrrppppp.......; +341|6952

Do the crime, accept the consequences...

2010-05-06 18:36:18

#18

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6756

do the crime... get your dog shot?

having a little bit of pot in your house DOES NOT warrant with ANY REASONABLE APPLICATION OF FORCE the RAIDING of your property by a FULLY ARMED swat-team, whilst your CHILD is in the same house. LET ALONE WITH LIVE ROUNDS GOING OFF.

jesus christ... what next?

get caught taking non-prescribed ritalin and face the guillotine? fucking retarded notion of 'justice' and 'lawful force'.

you know, it amazes me how much americans hate when 'the state' or the 'big man' or the feds over-stretch their boundaries. americans hate having their 'liberty' and 'freedom' taken away or infringed upon in any way by the government or state. so why are you so blithely accepting of federal law enforcement agencies smashing their way into your house? surely, by the libertarian and 'land of the free' concept, you guys should be fine with a guy having a little bit of pot to smoke in his own house. classical, english utilitarianism, right? the greater good for the greater number? not doing any harm to anyone else? but no... you get all christian and vindictive and shit because a guy was caught with a little bit of herb and had a fucking fully-automatic home-invasion drop on his ass. idiot hypocrits, all of you. hypocrite lecteurs!

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2010-05-06 18:37:11

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Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5643|London, England

Uzique wrote:
do the crime... get your dog shot?

having a little bit of pot in your house DOES NOT warrant with ANY REASONABLE APPLICATION OF FORCE the RAIDING of your property by a FULLY ARMED swat-team, whilst your CHILD is in the same house. LET ALONE WITH LIVE ROUNDS GOING OFF.

jesus christ... what next?

get caught taking non-prescribed ritalin and face the guillotine? fucking retarded notion of 'justice' and 'lawful force'.

Well, if drug dealers weren't known to arm themselves then perhaps cops wouldn't go in all SWAT-like.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
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2010-05-06 18:40:36

#20

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6756

yeah learn to read the OP for once before you wage in with your usual ideological bullshit.

they found a 'small quantity'. enough for a 'misdemenour' charge. he's not going down for supply offences now, is he?

it's the equivalent of having a SWAT van roll up outside your house with mp5's and a battering ram because you bought a gram of coke from a dealer downtown. i bet the police operation cost 100x more than the street-worth of the spliff or two that the poor guy bought. "your tax dollars at work". your ridiculous notions of liberty and american ideology stretched to the fucking limit.

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2010-05-06 18:44:05

#21

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5643|London, England

Uzique wrote:
yeah learn to read the OP for once before you wage in with your usual ideological bullshit.

they found a 'small quantity'. enough for a 'misdemenour' charge. he's not going down for supply offences now, is he?

it's the equivalent of having a SWAT van roll up outside your house with mp5's and a battering ram because you bought a gram of coke from a dealer downtown. i bet the police operation cost 100x more than the street-worth of the spliff or two that the poor guy bought. "your tax dollars at work". your ridiculous notions of liberty and american ideology stretched to the fucking limit.

Yeah, a completely one-sided story with no background as to why the police would be raiding his home. Could it be that he was a major dealer and just happened to have sold out at the time? Since it's Missouri, odds are the guy was running a meth lab at some point.

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-Frederick Bastiat

2010-05-06 18:45:32

#22

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6756

right, yeah.

all im saying is it's reasonable that they would have done some research on the property if they had taken out narcotics/search warrants. those things need signing-off. they take some level of time and bureaucracy. they arrange a SWAT raid. bust in on a house. and find... nothing. police incompetence at best. total fucking mistake with unlawful use of force at worst. a fuck-up.

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2010-05-06 18:47:23

#23

DesertFox-: The very model of a modern major general; +796|6970|United States of America

Uzique wrote:
right, yeah.

all im saying is it's reasonable that they would have done some research on the property if they had taken out narcotics/search warrants. those things need signing-off. they take some level of time and bureaucracy. they arrange a SWAT raid. bust in on a house. and find... nothing. police incompetence at best. total fucking mistake with unlawful use of force at worst. a fuck-up.

How is it incompetence? They found drugs. You just don't think it's a reasonable amount of effort or force because you don't mind a bit o' weed in the house.

2010-05-06 18:49:09

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Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5643|London, England

DesertFox- wrote:
Uzique wrote:
right, yeah.

all im saying is it's reasonable that they would have done some research on the property if they had taken out narcotics/search warrants. those things need signing-off. they take some level of time and bureaucracy. they arrange a SWAT raid. bust in on a house. and find... nothing. police incompetence at best. total fucking mistake with unlawful use of force at worst. a fuck-up.
How is it incompetence? They found drugs. You just don't think it's a reasonable amount of effort or force because you don't mind a bit o' weed in the house.

I'm sure his pot dealer is a very nice chap who would never hurt a fly.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-05-06 18:52:09

#25

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6756

it has nothing to do with my stance on drugs in the house. i don't think letting off live rounds in a family home is acceptable for a 'find' with a total net-value of probably $20 bucks. the ammunition was probably worth more. it's a joke. it's a waste of tax money. it's an excercise in nothing but police over-reaction. is this how the "war on drugs" is fought in america? take out the end-users? imprison the hordes of small-time, casual users? no wonder you have such high adult incarceration rates. the fact of the matter is that your law enforcement agencies don't even want to follow the money trail: they're happy busting into little guy's houses and ruining their fucking lives. why dont they follow the paper-trail? it probably goes through the corrution of your own state officials. you guys do nothing about your neighbouring countries that ship the drugs. the war on drugs in america is a fucking farce, in my honest opinion, and i hope all of you enjoy being socialist taxpayers so that dumb police grunts with inferiority complexes can go around shooting corgis for a sense of self-satisfaction and moral 'right'.

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