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Dilbert_X wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

A Happy Meal was a treat for me as a child. It might happen on a Saturday morning that my mom or dad would take me to get one. Did the world end? No. Did I get fat from it? No. Did I want fast food for the toy? No, I liked the soda/orange drink. All the toy did was convince me as a child that I wanted McDonald's over Wendy's or Burger King. That, and the play lands and Grimace and Ronald McDonald etc were all appealing as a child.
So the hamburger industry already had you and your family sucked into the idea a burger meal was a good choice for a treat, it was just product differentiation at that stage?
No, how about it's built into American culture? You should try visiting here sometime, you'll see a half million places that sell hamburger in New York City alone.
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A cheeseburger is a lot more American than apple pie.
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11 Bravo wrote:

dilbert i bet you are fat.  i bet you blame the world for being fat, and not yourself.
Considering his anti-social proclivities... I'm fairly certain he looks like this:

https://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7421/manwithgrapesmx3.jpg
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JG wrote:

It was a treat.
All the marketing did was
It was a treat.
All the marketing did was
It was a treat.
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Not talking about if they should sell hamburgers. We're supposed to be talking about whether they should package toys with them.
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FAST FOOD was the treat. McD's was the choice after the treat was a given.
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11 Bravo wrote:

dilbert i bet you are fat.  i bet you blame the world for being fat, and not yourself.
Bet all you like, you'll lose.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

JG wrote:

It was a treat.
All the marketing did was
It was a treat.
All the marketing did was
It was a treat.
That's American culture. It's got nothing to do with their marketing.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

dilbert i bet you are fat.  i bet you blame the world for being fat, and not yourself.
Bet all you like, you'll lose.
hmmmm.......i dunno.
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Flaming_Maniac wrote:

FAST FOOD was the treat. McD's was the choice after the treat was a given.
He already said, hamburgers were the treat - it was just a question of which restaurant.
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JohnG@lt wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

dilbert i bet you are fat.  i bet you blame the world for being fat, and not yourself.
Considering his anti-social proclivities... I'm fairly certain he looks like this:

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7421 … pesmx3.jpg
You should really stay off those gay porn sites.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

FAST FOOD was the treat. McD's was the choice after the treat was a given.
He already said, hamburgers were the treat - it was just a question of which restaurant.
hamburgers are a way of life.  mcd's was a treat.  just like dairy queen.  the treat was the blizzard....not a toy.
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JohnG@lt wrote:

Uzique wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:


A Happy Meal was a treat for me as a child. It might happen on a Saturday morning that my mom or dad would take me to get one. Did the world end? No. Did I get fat from it? No. Did I want fast food for the toy? No, I liked the soda/orange drink. All the toy did was convince me as a child that I wanted McDonald's over Wendy's or Burger King. That, and the play lands and Grimace and Ronald McDonald etc were all appealing as a child.
ding ding, the marketing strategy of mcdonalds that i spoke about.

"that i wanted mcdonalds over wendy's or burger king".

"ronald mcdonald"

these are all carefully researched and constructed artifices that exist only for the purpose of sowing seeds in impressionable and developing children's minds. this is the sort of tactic that the legislation is trying to ban. whether or not you want to admit it, the fact that you even look back on experiencing of mcdonalds with happy-nostalgia is testament to the fact that their strategy works. in today's market, anything making someone predisposed or inclined to buy something unhealthy or not-to-their-best-interest should be banned. let mcdonalds lure you into their chains with appetizing images of their glorious cuisine... not a happy smiling clown brandishing free balloons and worthless gimmicky toys.
Of course they are. But you missed the entire point that it was a special occasion that didn't happen very often. If I whined or cried that I wanted McDonald's there was no way in hell they would take me. It was a treat. All the marketing did was help choose between which fast food restaurant to visit. It didn't dictate that I was going to eat there every day.
where did i say eat everyday? i have maintained from my very first post that i am not interested in the issue of (child) obesity. don't give a shit.

my point was that the marketing they use(d) influences children to buy from mcdonalds without any second thought.

it's influencing people who are not mature or independent enough to make any intelligent, informed decision.

it's underhand, cheap marketing, in any business sense. the only reason they got away with it for so long was because it was beneath the cheery, faux-innocent veneer of a child's happiness. the intent and the corporate motivations behind it are pretty sinister, and their profit margins are at the expense of your child's lifestyle choices.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

FAST FOOD was the treat. McD's was the choice after the treat was a given.
He already said, hamburgers were the treat - it was just a question of which restaurant.
Why are you latching on to hamburgers? It could've been chicken nuggets or anything else on the menu. I said before, the soda was the treat. My family never kept soda in the house so going to a place that had it was the treat.

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FatherTed wrote:

i like soup
boiled soup
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11 Bravo wrote:

hamburgers are a way of life.
And it doesn't seem remarkable to you that anyone could make that kind of statement?

Sandwiches are a way of life.

Kebas are a way of life

Pizzas are a way of life.

Don't really work do they?
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Flaming_Maniac wrote:

A cheeseburger is a lot more American than apple pie.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

hamburgers are a way of life.
And it doesn't seem remarkable to you that anyone could make that kind of statement?
im gonna go grill some burgers for you.
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JohnG@lt wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

FAST FOOD was the treat. McD's was the choice after the treat was a given.
He already said, hamburgers were the treat - it was just a question of which restaurant.
Why are you latching on to hamburgers? It could've been chicken nuggets or anything else on the menu. I said before, the soda was the treat. My family never kept soda in the house so going to a place that had it was the treat.
You latched onto hamburgers
All the toy did was convince me as a child that I wanted McDonald's over Wendy's or Burger King.
You didn't mention other fast food, or the option of just having the soda.
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sigh

This is pretty strongly cut by oceanic divides. The poor, poor souls that have never had a good dose of freedom, strong parenting, or hamburgers just can't understand.

Also, why did Uzique stop responding to me?
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Dilbert_X wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

hamburgers are a way of life.
And it doesn't seem remarkable to you that anyone could make that kind of statement?

Sandwiches are a way of life.

Kebas are a way of life

Pizzas are a way of life.

Don't really work do they?
I see where he's coming from.

In England, Sunday Roast is a way of life

In Ireland, Guinness and Gaelic is a way of life

In Wales, bumming sheep is a way of life.
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Jay
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Dilbert_X wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:


He already said, hamburgers were the treat - it was just a question of which restaurant.
Why are you latching on to hamburgers? It could've been chicken nuggets or anything else on the menu. I said before, the soda was the treat. My family never kept soda in the house so going to a place that had it was the treat.
You latched onto hamburgers
All the toy did was convince me as a child that I wanted McDonald's over Wendy's or Burger King.
You didn't mention other fast food, or the option of just having the soda.
Why would I go to McDonald's and only order a soda?

Something interesting is occurring in this thread. All of the Americans are saying it's wrong, and all of the non-Americans think it's great. Considering our countries liberals look up to 'other developed nations' there's no wonder they're all a bunch of polite fascists.
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JohnG@lt wrote:

Why would I go to McDonald's and only order a soda?
Erm, because you only went there because its was the soda you wanted?

JG wrote:

I said before, the soda was the treat.
Thats the thing, they sucker you in with a treat and sell you something you didn't really want and which isn't healthy.
Its so deeply entrenched in your psyche you're not even aware its happened.

usm wrote:

hamburgers are a way of life.
Amazing.
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Jay
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Flaming_Maniac wrote:

dude fuck you I am so hungry now

also they did a really good job of cooking the huge one
It's almost, but not quite, medium rare. Almost perfect
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