oil spill

2010-04-30 01:26:40

#1

ruisleipa: Member; +149|6507|teh FIN-land

well Louisiana is quite fucked apparently. It is clear that the blame for this disaster lies with BP. They lobbied against stronger safety controls for oil drilling which are in place in other countries like norway and Brazil. Their desire for profits has now fucked up the environment, created maybe a worse catastrophe than Exxon Valdez and they should pay. Extremely stringent safety legislation should be implemented.

Of course this is also an inadvertent effect of our dependence on oil.

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Last edited by ruisleipa (2010-04-30 04:52:23)

2010-04-30 01:31:48

#2

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7001

Louisiana has always been quite fucked. Now its proper fucked.

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2010-04-30 01:35:49

#3

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5464|Sydney

If it can be proven that BP were negligent with their safety controls, they're going to be liable for a fuckload of damages. Surely someone's gotta be accountable for this.

2010-04-30 02:04:25

#4

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6960|Canberra, AUS

let's talk about blame/name/shame AFTER the spill is cleaned, the cap is plugged, the relief well drilled and the investigation finished.

k?

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2010-04-30 02:05:30

#5

Benzin: Member; +576|6284

Spark wrote:
let's talk about blame/name/shame AFTER the spill is cleaned, the cap is plugged, the relief well drilled and the investigation finished.

k?

Yea, let's fix the problem first before we start assigning blame in public.

2010-04-30 03:30:07

#6

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6906|London, England

Does anyone know why the damn oil rig blew up, killed 11 people and sunk in the first place? Everyone is just talking about this oil spill, which hasn't killed anyone or actually done much harm relatively speaking

but there's nothing about the oil rig exploding and killing people itself...

2010-04-30 03:34:46

#7

Benzin: Member; +576|6284

Mekstizzle wrote:
Does anyone know why the damn oil rig blew up, killed 11 people and sunk in the first place? Everyone is just talking about this oil spill, which hasn't killed anyone or actually done much harm relatively speaking

but there's nothing about the oil rig exploding and killing people itself...

Yes, the oil spill hasn't harmed anything - only destroying entire ecosystems and the industries that rely on their preservation.

2010-04-30 03:35:39

#8

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6906|London, England

Yeah well.. the explosion has already killed 11 people, and nobody has yet to say why

2010-04-30 03:36:37

#9

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5522|Cleveland, Ohio

CapnNismo wrote:
Mekstizzle wrote:
Does anyone know why the damn oil rig blew up, killed 11 people and sunk in the first place? Everyone is just talking about this oil spill, which hasn't killed anyone or actually done much harm relatively speaking

but there's nothing about the oil rig exploding and killing people itself...
Yes, the oil spill hasn't harmed anything - only destroying entire ecosystems and the industries that rely on their preservation.

it destroyed an entire eco system and industries already?

2010-04-30 03:38:38

#10

jord: Member; +2,382|6963|The North, beyond the wall.

Is there a way to salvage this oil and make profits?

2010-04-30 03:41:44

#11

Benzin: Member; +576|6284

11 Bravo wrote:
Yes, the oil spill hasn't harmed anything - only destroying entire ecosystems and the industries that rely on their preservation.
it destroyed an entire eco system and industries already?

Notice the use of the present continuous verb tense.

jord wrote:
Is there a way to salvage this oil and make profits?

I doubt it, but you never know.

2010-04-30 03:42:35

#12

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5522|Cleveland, Ohio

notice its a video game forum. get to the point.

2010-04-30 03:43:17

#13

ruisleipa: Member; +149|6507|teh FIN-land

Mekstizzle wrote:
Does anyone know why the damn oil rig blew up, killed 11 people and sunk in the first place? Everyone is just talking about this oil spill, which hasn't killed anyone or actually done much harm relatively speaking

but there's nothing about the oil rig exploding and killing people itself...

I don't think they have found the cause, but it's not true there wasn't anything written about the explosion. There was loads iirc.

Plus the oil spill looks to be one of the world's worst environmental disasters so it should be reported shouldn't it?

2010-04-30 03:48:05

#14

Noobeater: Northern numpty; +194|6732|Boulder, CO

jord wrote:
Is there a way to salvage this oil and make profits?

Yeah they're building a giant metal dome that they can use to capture the oil as it leaks and pump it to ships at the surface but it'll be a fair few weeks until its finished.

2010-04-30 04:29:44

#15

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6960|Canberra, AUS

jord wrote:
Is there a way to salvage this oil and make profits?

not with all the crap - water/salts/bioorganisms - that are in it now. (i assume you mean the oil in the water)

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2010-04-30 06:39:56

#16

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5987|College Park, MD

$20 says BP gets the Exxon treatment after this and they end up paying practically nothing in fines.

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2010-04-30 06:43:38

#17

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5464|Sydney

Mekstizzle wrote:
Does anyone know why the damn oil rig blew up, killed 11 people and sunk in the first place? Everyone is just talking about this oil spill, which hasn't killed anyone or actually done much harm relatively speaking

but there's nothing about the oil rig exploding and killing people itself...

Relative to being potentially worse than the Exxon Valdez oil spill?

2010-04-30 07:07:11

#18

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5643|London, England

Jaekus wrote:
If it can be proven that BP were negligent with their safety controls, they're going to be liable for a fuckload of damages. Surely someone's gotta be accountable for this.

BP was just the lease holder. The well was being drilled by Transocean, a Swiss company with a pretty damn good safety record.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-04-30 07:08:21

#19

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5643|London, England

Mekstizzle wrote:
Yeah well.. the explosion has already killed 11 people, and nobody has yet to say why

SWAT teams have been deployed on rigs in the Gulf of Mexico now... so perhaps foul play/terrorism. But, they say the same thing whenever a plane crashes now too.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-04-30 07:11:31

#20

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5643|London, England

Hurricane2k9 wrote:
$20 says BP gets the Exxon treatment after this and they end up paying practically nothing in fines.

Exxon paid billions of dollars for the cleanup and to settle civil lawsuits. Should they fine you when you get into a car accident?

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-04-30 07:16:02

#21

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6906|London, England

JohnG@lt wrote:
Hurricane2k9 wrote:
$20 says BP gets the Exxon treatment after this and they end up paying practically nothing in fines.
Exxon paid billions of dollars for the cleanup and to settle civil lawsuits. Should they fine you when you get into a car accident?

Well, depending on the outcome of the car accident and some other things, they can fuck you up, give fines and such if they see fit

2010-04-30 07:18:02

#22

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5643|London, England

Mekstizzle wrote:
JohnG@lt wrote:
Hurricane2k9 wrote:
$20 says BP gets the Exxon treatment after this and they end up paying practically nothing in fines.
Exxon paid billions of dollars for the cleanup and to settle civil lawsuits. Should they fine you when you get into a car accident?
Well, depending on the outcome of the car accident and some other things, they can fuck you up, give fines and such if they see fit

Sure, if you ran a red light and caused the accident. If your car breaks down in the middle of the highway and you get rear ended because of it, you won't get fined.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-04-30 08:14:09

#23

Trotskygrad: бля; +354|6284|Vortex Ring State

JohnG@lt wrote:
Mekstizzle wrote:
Yeah well.. the explosion has already killed 11 people, and nobody has yet to say why
SWAT teams have been deployed on rigs in the Gulf of Mexico now... so perhaps foul play/terrorism. But, they say the same thing whenever a plane crashes now too.

probably not the eco-terrorists.

2010-04-30 08:16:02

#24

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5464|Sydney

JohnG@lt wrote:
Jaekus wrote:
If it can be proven that BP were negligent with their safety controls, they're going to be liable for a fuckload of damages. Surely someone's gotta be accountable for this.
BP was just the lease holder. The well was being drilled by Transocean, a Swiss company with a pretty damn good safety record.

Ok cheers, I wasn't aware.
So who would be accountable, in your opinion? Cause now I have no idea.
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2010-04-30 08:16:24

#25

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5643|London, England

Trotskygrad wrote:
JohnG@lt wrote:
Mekstizzle wrote:
Yeah well.. the explosion has already killed 11 people, and nobody has yet to say why
SWAT teams have been deployed on rigs in the Gulf of Mexico now... so perhaps foul play/terrorism. But, they say the same thing whenever a plane crashes now too.
probably not the eco-terrorists.

Seems perfectly in line with what a group like ELF would do...

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-Frederick Bastiat

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