You of course say all this with no experience in any of the fields.Pochsy wrote:
It's tedious, boring shit that requires hours upon hours of practice, not original thought.
You're ego is legendary.
You're ego is legendary.
how the fuck are you two arguing over intellectual-egotism when neither of you can use 'your' in its correct form?
pochsy you're an english major as well - fm you're a sheep in the costume of a wolf.
both fucking shameful. pop some ritalin and read the 'english common phrases' handbook. you need it.
discussing the 'difficulty' of subjects as if there's any objective or relative scale is fucking retarded. a comprehensive understanding and in-depth knowledge of Ulysses is just as demanding and mentally rigorous as a biochemist's lab-work or the architect's designing of a building. different disciplines, impossible to compare or relate, and each calling upon different faculties and methods of thinking. what is it with bf2s and everyone competitively trying to 'prove' who is most intelligent? horses for courses. shut up. ta.
pochsy you're an english major as well - fm you're a sheep in the costume of a wolf.
both fucking shameful. pop some ritalin and read the 'english common phrases' handbook. you need it.
discussing the 'difficulty' of subjects as if there's any objective or relative scale is fucking retarded. a comprehensive understanding and in-depth knowledge of Ulysses is just as demanding and mentally rigorous as a biochemist's lab-work or the architect's designing of a building. different disciplines, impossible to compare or relate, and each calling upon different faculties and methods of thinking. what is it with bf2s and everyone competitively trying to 'prove' who is most intelligent? horses for courses. shut up. ta.
Last edited by Uzique (2010-04-26 08:59:10)
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First year calculus does have some memorization...as does first year anything. That is because you haven't learned enough to actually understand the basis for most of it...so you just need to know it for the test. Once you start deriving your own formulas, there is nowhere near as much memorization as there is a need to understand the problem and intelligently solve it. I would not EVER lump bio with a mature, mathematically based science. I say this as a guy with a BS in Applied Math and a MS in Physics who works in Biological/Medical research. Bio is not a matured science in the way Chem/Physics/Math are.Pochsy wrote:
Really? No experience? I tried them all before having decided it wasn't what I wanted to do. I took first year calculus.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
You of course say all this with no experience in any of the fields.Pochsy wrote:
It's tedious, boring shit that requires hours upon hours of practice, not original thought.
You're ego is legendary.
But, my experience is limited, so we'll put aside the obvious argument: you don't have to sit them to understand what goes on.
Unoriginal thought. Original application.
Unless you are a PhD. Are you?
But Uzique is right...each field is different and complicated in it's own right.
Of course...there is a deep -seeded 'holier than thou' feeling that science and engineering majors tend to have over humanities and 'lesser' sciences, and this sums it up nicely!
LOLPochsy wrote:
Really? No experience? I tried them all before having decided it wasn't what I wanted to do. I took first year calculus.
This shit is hilarious. Your opinion on engineering/physics/math is based on first year calc. I would love you to see how little "unoriginal" thought you have in you, floundering in an engineering test that takes thinking and not rote memorization.
Copy/paste for added effect dummy. I'll make sure to put [sic] next time so you get it.Uzique wrote:
how the fuck are you two arguing over intellectual-egotism when neither of you can use 'your' in its correct form?
You should be in class paying attention. Maybe you need some drugs.
nah I don't need to memorize this stuff, I can derive it all on the test
Asian parents just use the belt.Yellowman03 wrote:
You should be in class paying attention. Maybe you need some drugs.
[sic] works fine for me, as it does for the rest of the world
otherwise copying other people's spelling stands as an ignorant replication of a prior mistake, rather than any form of mockery
a [sic] woulda killed him. sweet burn!
arts and philosophy arent comparable to any human or abstract sciences. in fact, my literature study involves a lot of secondary-reading and research into the human/social and concrete/mathematical sciences, as well as history and politics. it's a more universal curriculum. less esoteric and buried in abstraction. i love and prefer the 'all-round' feeling of education; it feels more personally enriching, rather than vocational or lost in deep theory.
otherwise copying other people's spelling stands as an ignorant replication of a prior mistake, rather than any form of mockery
a [sic] woulda killed him. sweet burn!
arts and philosophy arent comparable to any human or abstract sciences. in fact, my literature study involves a lot of secondary-reading and research into the human/social and concrete/mathematical sciences, as well as history and politics. it's a more universal curriculum. less esoteric and buried in abstraction. i love and prefer the 'all-round' feeling of education; it feels more personally enriching, rather than vocational or lost in deep theory.
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I have no problem with that.
I have a problem with a prick saying my degree could be achieved with a prescription or a robot.
I have a problem with a prick saying my degree could be achieved with a prescription or a robot.
I get what FM says when he compares Chemistry and Biology to Physics/Maths. There's more of the memorisation style when it comes to Biology, and in Physics there's much more potential in the subject to make someone have to apply themselves properly when compared...
lolMarlo Stanfield wrote:
This^^mtb0minime wrote:
What's worse is that most of these kids doing it are of the more "useless" majors. All the business majors, art history, literature, etc. It's kind of sad that they think it's insanely difficult and requires that they take those kinds of drugs to do well, or at least pass. Then again, the memorizing and regurgitating are the only majors it works for. When you actually need to learn theories, learn to apply information, or most importantly, learn how to learn: an all-nighter with a cocktail of Red Bull and Adderall is not going to help you at all. Not surprisingly, these are the same kids who drink until their livers shut down and need to be rushed to the hospital and have their stomachs pumped... every weekend.
I may not go to some uber top ranked University, but I've seen the syllabus and course loads for several big top ranked Universities and they are the same thing I'm doing using the same exact books.
In my experience college is fairly easy and most of these people needing to use drugs to get through it are fucking weak.
mek you dropped out of all forms of study, you're even less qualified to spout bullshit conjecture than pochsy. ziiiiiiing.
incidentally i must say that my own abuse of amphetamines did nothing for my studies this last term. i found myself even more distracted from any form of concentrated study and more and more interested in chasing the sensation of dopamine and serotonin flooding my brain. the prescription-level amphets are probably pretty good for revision though, i imagine, because one definite benefit that i felt was being able to stay awake for days, seemingly enraptured and fascinated by absolute nothings. you could easily stare at a textbook for 8 hours and find it to be the most marvelously exciting and entertaining quest.
and yes, i do love macbeth's completely dipshit overlooking of the fact that, at uber top-ranked universities, your work is marked and assessed by the expectations and rubrics of uber top-level academics and professors. im sorry that your community college drop-out tutors with zero ambition don't set a particularly formidable scale of achievement. if i write shit for my professors, they drop the book on me and send me packing.
incidentally i must say that my own abuse of amphetamines did nothing for my studies this last term. i found myself even more distracted from any form of concentrated study and more and more interested in chasing the sensation of dopamine and serotonin flooding my brain. the prescription-level amphets are probably pretty good for revision though, i imagine, because one definite benefit that i felt was being able to stay awake for days, seemingly enraptured and fascinated by absolute nothings. you could easily stare at a textbook for 8 hours and find it to be the most marvelously exciting and entertaining quest.
and yes, i do love macbeth's completely dipshit overlooking of the fact that, at uber top-ranked universities, your work is marked and assessed by the expectations and rubrics of uber top-level academics and professors. im sorry that your community college drop-out tutors with zero ambition don't set a particularly formidable scale of achievement. if i write shit for my professors, they drop the book on me and send me packing.
Last edited by Uzique (2010-04-26 09:39:39)
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i cant move without caffeine.
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i honestly find, to echo an earlier post, that a healthy diet and lots of water eventually results in just as much energy, focus and productivity.
drugs and chemicals are, of course, always a shortcut to a certain frame-of-mind or state of being. they all have long-term effects, drawbacks and comedowns.
drugs and chemicals are, of course, always a shortcut to a certain frame-of-mind or state of being. they all have long-term effects, drawbacks and comedowns.
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c during the holidays were im forced to eat normal stuff, and can't just get trashed whenever i want i find myself feeling amazing after a few days, whereas at uni a good pizza, 8 cans of harp and some lucozade in the morning can achieve the same feeling...for a day or so before i crash.Uzique wrote:
i honestly find, to echo an earlier post, that a healthy diet and lots of water eventually results in just as much energy, focus and productivity.
drugs and chemicals are, of course, always a shortcut to a certain frame-of-mind or state of being. they all have long-term effects, drawbacks and comedowns.
Small hourglass island
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Both are psychostimulant drugs. One is worse for you, but they are both in the same category of drugs. Just like weed and acid are both in the same category of drugs: hallucinogens.mtb0minime wrote:
Inappropriate metaphor.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
DrunkFace wrote:
Fix'd metaphor. Now go.
Re: caffeine vs. smart drugs: in both cases people are voluntarily consuming them.
Re: sex vs. rape: in one case both adults are consenting, in the other case at least one of them is not. I will explain the "at least one" in a soon-to-be-posted thread that gave me a great idea.
How someone can't understand this.. I can't even fathom.
Coffee is just socially acceptable while adderall is not.
Don't bother telling that to an engineering student.Uzique wrote:
also the point about 'societal acceptance' is a big issue. caffeine and other mild stimulants are completely fine but other 'prescription' drugs that affect the same receptors in the same chemical manner arent? it's kind of like the casual chewing of cocoa in south american countries - to us it's shocking use of an illegal drug, but to them it's culturally natural. we have the same with starbucks and high-sugar, high-caffeine, high-taurine, high-stimulant everything. whatever it takes to get the results, i suppose. anyway, it's a huge grey-area and you can't have absolutes of black/white, right/wrong. every drug has a different purpose, a different benefit, a different drawback, and a different potential for abuse.
Honestly, basic fucking 7th grade health shit right here. If you can't understand it, well, it's pretty ridiculous and idiotic.
Last edited by Poseidon (2010-04-26 09:55:08)
popping a ritalin to boost a revision session does a whole lot less damage to your body, mentally and physically, than slurping on coffee every-day.
just sayin'.
it's an ethical issue re: performance and academic 'fairness', more than an issue of drug-abuse.
just sayin'.
it's an ethical issue re: performance and academic 'fairness', more than an issue of drug-abuse.
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most ive done to help in class was drink red bulls and coffee
Tu Stultus Es
ITT: FDA professionals
Same, minus the coffeeeleven bravo wrote:
most ive done to help in class was drink red bulls and coffee
Lucozade Orange + smoking.liquidat0r wrote:
Same, minus the coffeeeleven bravo wrote:
most ive done to help in class was drink red bulls and coffee
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I also chain smoke every time I end up writing something the day before its due.
Tu Stultus Es
3am in the morning essays in in 6 hours and im running out of cigarettes and whiskey crew checkin' ineleven bravo wrote:
I also chain smoke every time I end up writing something the day before its due.
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at least i have the experience and entitlement to talk about both sides of the storyFlaming_Maniac wrote:
ITT: FDA professionals
in every thread with FM: wikipedia scholar with vast knowledge of fighter-jets, world literature and all forms of contemporary social debate.
coffee and red-bull does a fuckload of damage over a prolonged period of time. mood-swings and mental alterations, too.
the fact is, legally and socially... ritalin was probably like any other pharmaceutical compound, synthesized and tested... it was found to have a particular use in a certain area of (mental) healthcare, and then controlled and distributed with regulation for a) profits and industry-protection, b) because there was no valid social, utilitarian benefit in giving it to non-ADHD sufferers. the fact that the government/regulatory body considers it to have 'no benefit' to the public at large doesn't mean it's the devil's-pill and causes any particular harm to body/mind or mentality. shit, the fact that ritalin boosts performance and concentration in non-ADHD sufferers was only discovered serendipitously after it had been classified and deemed prescription-only-- if my prior research and knowledge of the pharmaceutical industry is anything to go by. my aunt is one of the senior-level experts in the NHS that considers directives and legislature to do with pills and medicine like this. the simple fact is that ritalin and the like probably aren't all that bad for you. caffeine isn't killer, either, but people neck it every single day. taurine isn't exactly the best thing for your metabolism or mood but people utilize that to their own ends every day, too. it's a social and ethical problem. not a medical crisis.
Last edited by Uzique (2010-04-26 10:09:34)
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I figure given that the US government throws that shit at fighter pilots who they've invested multiple millions in, it probably isn't that dangerous. As Uzi says, just a question of fairness.