Poll

Right or wrong?

Right, teaches kids to obey68%68% - 100
Wrong, makes kids violent31%31% - 46
Total: 146
KEN-JENNINGS
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+2,983|6922|949

I never really got the idea of spanking...every once in a while when I'm feeling frisky I'll spank my girl, but it's kind of a spur of the moment thing...it's more of a "you like that?" sort of thing.

nvm, I get it now.  Don't have kids, null vote.

Last edited by KEN-JENNINGS (2008-01-18 03:00:19)

LividBovine
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

I never really got the idea of spanking...every once in a while when I'm feeling frisky I'll spank my girl, but it's kind of a spur of the moment thing...it's more of a "you like that?" sort of thing.
I kind of like the all done smack on the a__.  She doesn't seem to like it as much as I do.
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1927
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I'll smack my Daughter on the arse if she hasn't done as she's been asked, then told and warned about a smack.  It always results in her saying sorry and never leaves a mark and probably doesn't hurt her skin, just hurts her mentally knowing that she's done wrong and disappointed me.
Rewaa
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steelie34 wrote:

im living proof that spanking doesn't make kids violent. so i say, slap the little fucker till he listens.
That's just sad...
I'm Jamesey
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

I never really got the idea of spanking...every once in a while when I'm feeling frisky I'll spank my girl, but it's kind of a spur of the moment thing...it's more of a "you like that?" sort of thing.

nvm, I get it now.  Don't have kids, null vote.
I got very scared and worried when I read those first 2 lines
Nappy
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+151|6520|NSW, Australia

i think they should bring the cane back to schools as well

and no, i havent been saying that just because ive just finished, ive been saying that since year 8/9
madmurre
I suspect something is amiss
+117|7001|Sweden

I'm Jamesey wrote:

My ex stepfather started off spanking me when I was misbehaving, but it increased and got worse as time went by, and as his alcoholism took hold, eventually it turned into him "spanking" me every time he was mad or felt I had annoyed him in some way.

I guess I can agree with spanking in situations where it will teach the child a valuable life lesson they won't wanna forget anytime soon, but when it becomes a routine, and a punishment for trivial things, then it's wrong and shouldn't be happening.

And don't fucking punch kids in the face, no matter how drunk you are. It messes them up a bit later in life.
That´s a perfect example of spanking being abused resulting in beating it should never ever be done in a way to release your own anger and problems onto the kid that´s disgusting. If you´ll go with it and use it make sure it´s only for discipline and penalty never for your own satisfaction.

I´m still cut in half on the subject but guess if you use this method do it with thought.

Last edited by madmurre (2008-01-18 04:39:27)

blademaster
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a new study was just released
There’s fresh evidence that spanking young children can lead to behavioural problems later on. Three-year-olds who are spanked frequently by their mothers are at an elevated risk of acting aggressively at five years of age, according to a study in the journal Pediatrics.

The research, led by Catherine Taylor of Tulane University in New Orleans, is based on interviews with 2,500 mothers – half of whom used corporal punishment. Previous studies have found a connection between spanking and aggressiveness, including bullying, screaming, fighting, cruelty and being disobedient. But the new study also looked at other home troubles that may contribute to bad behaviour, such as parental neglect or the mother’s use of drugs and alcohol. Even when these factors were taken into account, spanking was directly tied to aggressiveness.
source
RTHKI
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Was there another thread on this cause this seems very recent?

blademaster wrote:

a new study was just released
There’s fresh evidence that spanking young children can lead to behavioural problems later on. Three-year-olds who are spanked frequently by their mothers are at an elevated risk of acting aggressively at five years of age, according to a study in the journal Pediatrics.

The research, led by Catherine Taylor of Tulane University in New Orleans, is based on interviews with 2,500 mothers – half of whom used corporal punishment. Previous studies have found a connection between spanking and aggressiveness, including bullying, screaming, fighting, cruelty and being disobedient. But the new study also looked at other home troubles that may contribute to bad behaviour, such as parental neglect or the mother’s use of drugs and alcohol. Even when these factors were taken into account, spanking was directly tied to aggressiveness.
source
I always thought it was fine. I was spanked. No behavioral problems. It also didn't really teach me anything either
That says frequently though. What about every so often, like me..
And what about spanked by the father? I was never spanked by my mom iirc. Guess I don't really fir with the survey then.
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I thought it was about adult spanking, cause am all for that!
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Diesel_dyk
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When kids are too young to reason with, you need to spank in order to reinforce an idea that will keep them safe. I posted on another thread how to use spanking as an effective teaching tool.

When kids are older it doesn't do anything except cause resentment. Spank up to the age of 5 or 6 and that's it and even then the goal of a spank is to scare not to harm. And you have to reinforce the spanking with telling the kid exactly what they are not to be doing.

Later on you can simply use the threat of spanking to reinforce the fact that you are serious. After the age of 6 even the threat of spanking kind of becomes a joke. So when it comes to spanking in schools... welll school age starts at 5 or 6 so spanking really isn't going to do much.

Anyway, you might only have to spank you child 5 or 6 times in their entire life. If you are spanking on a weekly or daily basis then you're probably being an abusive bully and the kid will pick up on that and other parental characteristics and emulate them... so I wouldn't blame the spanking, I would want to know more about the character of the parent... bully parent = bully kid... could be genetic predisposition to being overly agressive too.  LArge part of that is if the parent doesn't have empathy, then how can they teach it to their kid

IMO if you're not teaching your child very early about learning to think for themself and developing foresight or consequences for their actions then you, as the parent, are not doing your job and you're going to making life more difficult for the child that you supposedly love.




On an aside... I saw Glenn Beck talk about spanking a few weeks back, but I can't find the video on it... But I figured out why he is is so screwed up in the head and crying all the time.... he talked about spanking and said what's the first thing you do after you spank your child? with a tear in his eye, his answer was that you hug them and tell them you love them.... now that would really be a mind f*ck on you child.... Can you imagine? spank, then hug and cry with your child and tell them you love them If that was how Beck was raised, no wonder he is soooo screwed up in the head....   What do I do after I spank and scold my kid? I send them to their room and tell them to think about it, because its always about trying to get them to think. And if its appropriate I will also tell them to come out when they are ready to apologize. I usually stomp around abit like an angry chimp as well to reinforce seriousness of what I told them.


Anyway there is a right way to use spanking and then there's the how to screw up your child way. I guess if your a liberal and don't spank you'll get a whiny pos kid that's uncontrollable except with the help of lots of therapy. And if your a social conservative you'll use spanking to beat your kid into giving up their free will so that they follow rules blindly and use their learned agression to try and enforce those rules on others.... /sarcasm
Once again... the nut cases on both sides drown out the sane and pragmatic approach of the majority.

I hate to post this link 
beware, watch at own risk, the video so infuriated me I wanted to reach through the tube and strangle everyone in it especially the whiny pos commentator, what an irritant
Jay
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+2,006|5648|London, England

blademaster wrote:

a new study was just released
There’s fresh evidence that spanking young children can lead to behavioural problems later on. Three-year-olds who are spanked frequently by their mothers are at an elevated risk of acting aggressively at five years of age, according to a study in the journal Pediatrics.

The research, led by Catherine Taylor of Tulane University in New Orleans, is based on interviews with 2,500 mothers – half of whom used corporal punishment. Previous studies have found a connection between spanking and aggressiveness, including bullying, screaming, fighting, cruelty and being disobedient. But the new study also looked at other home troubles that may contribute to bad behaviour, such as parental neglect or the mother’s use of drugs and alcohol. Even when these factors were taken into account, spanking was directly tied to aggressiveness.
source
Yes, it's better that we breed a society entirely devoid of aggression. Being a passive sheep while sitting back and being content with what comes your way should be idealized rather than going out and getting what you want in life.

I was never spanked as a child and it didn't stop me from being aggressive, arrogant and prone to fighting as a child. I don't fight anymore but the other two traits are still with me
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Spanking was made illegal for children of all ages here recently.  Its too soon to tell the results of this, but I personally think the law change was a mistake.

Sometimes, a child just won't understand complex adult reasoning, and just need to associate being naughty with being smacked.  There are already child abuse laws, and these server their purpose.
unnamednewbie13
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Not enough choices in the poll. I'd say anger-induced spanking is more prone to making kids violent, because it's more forceful and they pick up on their parent's emotions.

"Gee, I wish I could have that kind of power."

Plenty of people who were spanked as a kid aren't violent as an adult. I believe that when it becomes a beating, it's over the top and deserves to be addressed by whatever child protection agency the country in question has.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2010-04-20 19:45:49)

Reciprocity
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Not enough choices in the poll. I'd say anger-induced spanking is more prone to making kids violent, because it's more forceful and they pick up on their parent's emotions.

"Gee, I wish I could have that kind of power."

Plenty of people who were spanked as a kid aren't violent as an adult. I believe that when it becomes a beating, it's over the top and deserves to be addressed by whatever child protection agency the country in question has.
exactly, proper spanking isn't about anger.  If the parent is pissed off, they're doing it wrong.  If you're waling on your kid in the toy aisle at walmart, you're probably doing it wrong.
unnamednewbie13
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Reciprocity wrote:

If you're waling on your kid in the toy aisle at walmart, you're probably doing it wrong.
Yes, the public humiliation bit is also a bit, er, perverse.
13rin
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I've spanked mah' son a few times.  Never have I been out of control when doing it (spanked out of rage/anger).  I haven't done it in probably... At least a year or two.  My kid is good.  Like really good.  He's shown more empathy in life to date then I have in my entire life.  He's just a good kid.  I'm so f'n lucky.

Now when I did spank him, it's been open handed and a quick pop on the butt.  Never leaving marks or using an object (switch/paddle).  I fucking hated doing it too.  Nowadays he merely gets the computer/toys taken away.  I'll still threaten to do karate on his ass every now and then, but I don't need to anymore. 

Me growing up though?  I used to get 'belted' or "the wooden spoon".   I also remember a long plastic shoe horn (I broke it).  I did deserve it though...
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Jaekus
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+957|5469|Sydney
I believe spanking should only be used when a child puts itself in danger, and has been explained previously not to do that certain thing. That way it's a (hopefully) rare event when both danger and spanking occur, thus when it happens the child perceives it as being a very serious event.

Spanking a child at the drop of a hat is counter-productive.

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