Yellowman03
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Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 4.html?g=0

In an era when students talk back to teachers, skip class and wear ever-more-risque clothing to school, one central Texas city has hit upon a deceptively simple solution: Bring back the paddle.
Since paddling was brought back to the city's 14 schools by a unanimous board vote in May, behavior at Temple's single high school has changed dramatically, Wright said, even though only one student in the school system has been paddled.
What do you guys think?

Should the city be allowed to paddle kids? Would you allow this to go on with your kid?
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FEOS
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Only people allowed to lay a hand on my kids are me and my wife.
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FEOS wrote:

Only people allowed to lay a hand on my kids are me and my wife.
^^^^^^^120% agree

So here's my rant


The article is interesting
"A joint American Civil Liberties Union-Human Rights Watch report last year found that students with disabilities were disproportionately subjected to corporal punishment, sometimes in direct response to behavioral problems that were a result of their disabilities."

So they are beating up kids with disabilities... must be nice to have the law on your side while you cowardly act out our frustrations on a disabled person.... cowards... reminds my of the phedophile prinicpal in Arizona strip searching a 12 year old girl... must be nice to have the law support your pedophilia (I think they finally stopped protecting those pedopiles there)

And another point... the govt isn't allowed to beat prisoners who have broken the law and been convicted in a court after full due process is accorded them... but these school administators can with out any process whatsoever.... Talk about an over bloated sense of authority these administrators have. And with all this talk of stopping bullying and here you have a prime example being set where an administrator is going to bully and physically abuse a child... IMO any school administrator that lays a hand on a child not should be fired on the spot, and they need to be investigated by CPS and have their kids taken away. In other words they need to be hurt back.... sorry but you don't get to work out you frustrations and your pyschological issues by laying your hands on someone elses child.


Anyway, the thoughts of anyone laying a hand on my kid, immediately brings thoughts of violence to my mind (obviously ^^^^).... fighting back against such tyranny would be justifiable homicide in my books and I would never convict if I were on that jury. I'm sure there are others out there that feel the same way.
FatherTed
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fucking wrong.
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I don't see a problem with it, but then again...  I don't have kids.
ATG
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We had spanking when I was a kid.
It works.
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ATG wrote:

We had spanking when I was a kid.
It works.
Yessir it does.

Brother didnt receive that treatment and he gets to be a twat.
Reciprocity
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If people knew how to raise their kids this wouldn't be an issue.  granted, truely(not ADDHD) handicapped kids can be a handful and probably shouldn't be spanked.  But most kids today are either spoiler rotten by weak parents or ignored and neglected by shitty parents.
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Reciprocity wrote:

If people knew how to raise their kids this wouldn't be an issue.  granted, truely(not ADDHD) handicapped kids can be a handful and probably shouldn't be spanked.  But most kids today are either spoiler rotten by weak parents or ignored and neglected by shitty parents.
It's not the teachers or principals job to instill discipline in kids. Their job is to teach kids. The fact that this passed just shows you how many awful parents there really are out there that are more than willing to pass the buck and have the government raise their kids for them. Turn off the TV people.
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If you people are so worried about them laying a hand on your kid, maybe you should not raise little brats. BTW I have two of my own, they just know how to behave!
Jay
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nlsme1 wrote:

If you people are so worried about them laying a hand on your kid, maybe you should not raise little brats. BTW I have two of my own, they just know how to behave!
So I can beat your kids if I ever see them step out of line and you're cool with it?
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temple is a shit city. nestled between other shit cities
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eleven bravo wrote:

temple is a shit city. nestled between other shit cities
Waco sucks, Belton sucks, Temple sucks...
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JohnG@lt wrote:

nlsme1 wrote:

If you people are so worried about them laying a hand on your kid, maybe you should not raise little brats. BTW I have two of my own, they just know how to behave!
So I can beat your kids if I ever see them step out of line and you're cool with it?
Some random douchenuts in a stopre?
I'd cut your head off.

If the kids see a paddle hanging on the wall and know what infractions the authorized authority have charge to administer it for, then okay.
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ATG wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

nlsme1 wrote:

If you people are so worried about them laying a hand on your kid, maybe you should not raise little brats. BTW I have two of my own, they just know how to behave!
So I can beat your kids if I ever see them step out of line and you're cool with it?
Some random douchenuts in a stopre?
I'd cut your head off.

If the kids see a paddle hanging on the wall and know what infractions the authorized authority have charge to administer it for, then okay.
This TBH. When I was in school the principal had a paddle with holes in it, wiffle style. I went there once, and the threat of it was enough. Granted a lot of childrens behavior today has to do with lack of parenting. Both parents feel the need to earn a living, thus little johnny and little molly don't get enough mommy and daddy time. They tend to act out to get attention, and as they get older they feel that this acting out is the only way to get what they want. Parenting starts at home. The school, after school programs, and day cares are not parents, nor should they be used as parenting aids.




edited for grammer

Last edited by Canin (2010-04-17 21:29:42)

Jay
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I'm not one of those bleeding hearts that thinks parents shouldn't spank or discipline their children. There's no denying that it's effective. I draw the line at parents foisting their own responsibilities onto school systems. As I said before, it's not the schools responsibility to discipline children, it's the parents responsibility. No man will ever lay a finger on my children without receiving the beating of his life in return.
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JohnG@lt wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

temple is a shit city. nestled between other shit cities
Waco sucks, Belton sucks, Temple sucks...
Texas sucks.
Little BaBy JESUS
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It may work in a purely statistical sense. But I don't think it does anything at all to address the under lying issues. Not the schools place to physically punish in my opinion.

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Trotskygrad wrote:

same Texas School as this one?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,509798,00.html
I'll see your story and raise you one better

Handicapped Students made to battle in a fight club And yes its Texas... Funny how the state with the simple solutions has the worst problems.



Discipline belongs to the parents.. and yes I've spanked my kid who is now growing up to be very polite and productive at school. No doubt there are problem kids. What schools should do then is call the parents get them in the school, hand them the paddle and say have at it... better yet do it in front of the class to shame the little shit...... if a parent balks because they don't believe in discipline then put he kid on a three strikes and your expelled policy but don't dare touch a kid that's not yours.

Its the kids that are never told "no" that are the real problem. But still, schools are decrepit places where careerists hiberate between the glory days of their college partying and their golden retirement kiss-off. These people are not the people to be touching any elses kid just to work off their life frustrations that they build up with actually having to do their job training these little shits.... its part of their job description... its what they get paid for... they volunteered to do that job, they weren't drafted.... they are the ones that need to learn to deal with it. Paddling kids is just as bad as doping with up with Ritalin to make them quiet, its the solution that meant to make the teachers life easier and it doesn't do anything for the kid. IMO if a teacher can't hack it then GTFO before you do more harm than good.
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Diesel_dyk wrote:

Trotskygrad wrote:

same Texas School as this one?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,509798,00.html
I'll see your story and raise you one better

Handicapped Students made to battle in a fight club And yes its Texas... Funny how the state with the simple solutions has the worst problems.



Discipline belongs to the parents.. and yes I've spanked my kid who is now growing up to be very polite and productive at school. No doubt there are problem kids. What schools should do then is call the parents get them in the school, hand them the paddle and say have at it... better yet do it in front of the class to shame the little shit...... if a parent balks because they don't believe in discipline then put he kid on a three strikes and your expelled policy but don't dare touch a kid that's not yours.
What about the parents who do believe in discipline, but not in violence? Also, why should only children whose parents believe in violence be exempt from this 'three strikes' rule?
Reciprocity
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mikkel wrote:

What about the parents who do believe in discipline, but not in violence? Also, why should only children whose parents believe in violence be exempt from this 'three strikes' rule?
what does spanking have to do with violence?  Spanking induced clarity and focus.  It's not about expressing anger or frustration.  It's not about vengence or retribution.  It's a tool of discipline.

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