Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6827|Texas - Bigger than France

lowing wrote:

Pug wrote:

Alright, I'll tell you what.  Ceasefire.

Tommorrow, if there's time I'd like to try a different tack.

1) I'm going to prove you aren't racist
2) I'm going to help you express the topic different

Simple exercise where I just ask you why why why, with short answers until something spits out.

I understand your point.  I don't agree with many points within it, and I'm hoping this exercise will help with clarity.

Ok?
I don't need you proving I am not a racist, you have already called me out on that. What I want from you, is your proof that I am a racist.

Give me something that says I hold white people to a different standard, that I feel white people are better than plack people.
I'm busy

12 days until filing deadline.

Ready?  Keep your answers short, a few words so we can do this quick.

Statistics show there is a higher percentage of all the young blacks in jail than whites.  This is a fact.

Your question: What is the primary reason?

It's best to use answers that are like five words or less if possible.

Last edited by Pug (2010-04-03 16:07:27)

Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6827|Texas - Bigger than France

lowing wrote:

I don't need you proving I am not a racist, you have already called me out on that. What I want from you, is your proof that I am a racist.

Give me something that says I hold white people to a different standard, that I feel white people are better than plack people.
We'll take it up later.  I'm working 10-14 hours days, so forgive me if I'm not camped out.  I'll post when I can.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6937|USA

Pug wrote:

lowing wrote:

Pug wrote:

Alright, I'll tell you what.  Ceasefire.

Tommorrow, if there's time I'd like to try a different tack.

1) I'm going to prove you aren't racist
2) I'm going to help you express the topic different

Simple exercise where I just ask you why why why, with short answers until something spits out.

I understand your point.  I don't agree with many points within it, and I'm hoping this exercise will help with clarity.

Ok?
I don't need you proving I am not a racist, you have already called me out on that. What I want from you, is your proof that I am a racist.

Give me something that says I hold white people to a different standard, that I feel white people are better than plack people.
I'm busy

12 days until filing deadline.

Ready?  Keep your answers short, a few words so we can do this quick.

Statistics show there is a higher percentage of all the young blacks in jail than whites.  This is a fact.

Your question: What is the primary reason?

It's best to use answers that are like five words or less if possible.
for the most part, <----(gotta say this because I do not want it used against me) upbringing, personal decisions, lack of personal responsibilty, shitty attitude

The SAME REASONS I give for white people that are in prison ..uhhhh ( for the most part)

Did ya notice that I did not say "because they are black"? Notice how I did not say "because black people can not stay outta jail"?

My answers were social not racial.
lowing
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Pug wrote:

lowing wrote:

I don't need you proving I am not a racist, you have already called me out on that. What I want from you, is your proof that I am a racist.

Give me something that says I hold white people to a different standard, that I feel white people are better than plack people.
We'll take it up later.  I'm working 10-14 hours days, so forgive me if I'm not camped out.  I'll post when I can.
have fun with it and good luck
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6886|132 and Bush

This thread is getting a time out. I'd rather do that than punt the few who have had their emotions take control here.

Regroup. Chill. 1 day.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Bertster7
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lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:


It is not up to me to prove I am not racist, it is your claim that I am, you should prove it.
No one needs to prove it.

It is not an absolute. Racism is subjective to a point.

Most people here seem to think you come across as a racist because of the overall tone and subtext of your posts. Those opinions are certainly not unfounded.



And sagging? WTF? Who the fuck cares? There will always be those with thinly veiled prejudices targeting the fashions of minorities - Zoot Suits being another example.
Those opinions are unfounded because I have not made any racial comments. I have never not once pinned white people as superior to anyone and H ave never not once said that the problems stemming form the black community is do to the fact that they are black.

My posts are socially motivated not racially.

and sagging who gives a fuck? Perhaps employers for one. It emmulates gang life. It is the image you want to project and when you project it, you are surprised people have something to say about it? Time to get real.
No, what you have done is to persistently post this sort of content in a very one sided manner. A good proportion of your posts are relating to differences between various races. It's what you say between the lines, not explicitly, that makes you come across as a racist.

I genuinely believe, based entirely on the content of your posts, that you are a racist.

Two of the last 3 threads you have made are about race.

Since race seems to an issue again (in fact your posts in this thread are overtly racist)
I feel frivolous lawsuits coming on. Bad Walmart announcement
you're a moocher

You have race on the brain and seem to have an unhealthy interest in anything that makes races different, not what brings people together. Most people I can think of who are so aware of race are racists.

Your shouting and screaming about race all the time, your linking to articles and blogs written by racists, your attitude and the content of your posts overwhelming point to you being a racist.

Whilst I am confident you do not see yourself as being racist, I am even more confident that you are racist. You just don't see it, even when it is pointed out to you.

lowing wrote:

What is racist about it? The fact that he had the nerve to say it?Or you think there is no truth to it?
The closing post from that thread sums it up well:

Varegg wrote:

Just thinking about agreeing with what's written in the OP is borderline racism and will yield you a honorary membership in the KKK.
That's the OP that you posted and defended btw.

Racists usually don't think of themselves as racists and you clearly fit neatly into that bracket.


As for sagging, I work for one of the biggest and most successful companies in the world. Several of my colleagues dress in that sort of manner (one of whom drives a Ferrari and several other fancy sportscars). So, with that in mind, why should employers care? One could just as easily say it emulates youth culture with little to no reference to gang culture.

Why is it that black fashion trends have a tendancy to be disproportionately demonised? It's because it is a favourite pastime of closet racists.
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6827|Texas - Bigger than France
Dude, Europe fashion doesn't count.

I've seen plaid on plaid over there.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6937|USA

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

No one needs to prove it.

It is not an absolute. Racism is subjective to a point.

Most people here seem to think you come across as a racist because of the overall tone and subtext of your posts. Those opinions are certainly not unfounded.



And sagging? WTF? Who the fuck cares? There will always be those with thinly veiled prejudices targeting the fashions of minorities - Zoot Suits being another example.
Those opinions are unfounded because I have not made any racial comments. I have never not once pinned white people as superior to anyone and H ave never not once said that the problems stemming form the black community is do to the fact that they are black.

My posts are socially motivated not racially.

and sagging who gives a fuck? Perhaps employers for one. It emmulates gang life. It is the image you want to project and when you project it, you are surprised people have something to say about it? Time to get real.
No, what you have done is to persistently post this sort of content in a very one sided manner. A good proportion of your posts are relating to differences between various races. It's what you say between the lines, not explicitly, that makes you come across as a racist.

I genuinely believe, based entirely on the content of your posts, that you are a racist.

Two of the last 3 threads you have made are about race.

Since race seems to an issue again (in fact your posts in this thread are overtly racist)
I feel frivolous lawsuits coming on. Bad Walmart announcement
you're a moocher

You have race on the brain and seem to have an unhealthy interest in anything that makes races different, not what brings people together. Most people I can think of who are so aware of race are racists.

Your shouting and screaming about race all the time, your linking to articles and blogs written by racists, your attitude and the content of your posts overwhelming point to you being a racist.

Whilst I am confident you do not see yourself as being racist, I am even more confident that you are racist. You just don't see it, even when it is pointed out to you.

lowing wrote:

What is racist about it? The fact that he had the nerve to say it?Or you think there is no truth to it?
The closing post from that thread sums it up well:

Varegg wrote:

Just thinking about agreeing with what's written in the OP is borderline racism and will yield you a honorary membership in the KKK.
That's the OP that you posted and defended btw.

Racists usually don't think of themselves as racists and you clearly fit neatly into that bracket.


As for sagging, I work for one of the biggest and most successful companies in the world. Several of my colleagues dress in that sort of manner (one of whom drives a Ferrari and several other fancy sportscars). So, with that in mind, why should employers care? One could just as easily say it emulates youth culture with little to no reference to gang culture.

Why is it that black fashion trends have a tendancy to be disproportionately demonised? It's because it is a favourite pastime of closet racists.
Ya know, after calling bullshit on your post. the only thing I am left wondering is. Why would YOU consider my mooching thread racist?  I speak of moochers in that thread while YOU are the one associating it with black people. Seems to me you might have some soul searching to do.

In ALL my posts, I trash losers, not black people. Losers, include idiot saggers, gang bangers, welfare recipients, people with fuckin' pins in their faces etc....

Considering there are white idiot saggers, white gangs, white welfare recipients. I am wondering if you have ever read anything i have posted that accepted or approved of these groups. If so I beg you to post it.

Race comes up in my posts for 1 reason and that reason is the double standard that you seem to buy into. I am racist because I want to discuss reverse discrimination, affirmative action, entitlement, welfare etc.. I think you are taking the easy way out of that discussion by dismissing me and calling me a racist. How about you stand your ground and go toe to toe with the discussion if you think what I say is untrue, or unfounded? Hell, I dare you.

Last edited by lowing (2010-04-07 22:11:52)

Varegg
Support fanatic :-)
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How about I make a statement here lowing because I wonder if you agree or not ...

Statement: Specifically calling a crime a hate crime is rhetorically in itself a racist act ...
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6937|USA

Varegg wrote:

How about I make a statement here lowing because I wonder if you agree or not ...

Statement: Specifically calling a crime a hate crime is rhetorically in itself a racist act ...
I never viewed it as racist. I view it as bullshit special legislation for special interest groups, NOT adhering to the equality in society these groups are screaming about.

Gay is not a race, yet they are seeking such legislation.
Varegg
Support fanatic :-)
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lowing wrote:

Varegg wrote:

How about I make a statement here lowing because I wonder if you agree or not ...

Statement: Specifically calling a crime a hate crime is rhetorically in itself a racist act ...
I never viewed it as racist. I view it as bullshit special legislation for special interest groups, NOT adhering to the equality in society these groups are screaming about.

Gay is not a race, yet they are seeking such legislation.
I partially agree with you ... but ... when you need special legislation to cater a race or group doesn't that in itself uphold the need to label those groups in question ... doesn't need to be racist, could also involve gays etc ...

Does government labeling prevent sociological labeling?

I think that may be the reason that many of your opinions comes off as racist even though you say you are not racist ... just a thought ...
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6937|USA

Varegg wrote:

lowing wrote:

Varegg wrote:

How about I make a statement here lowing because I wonder if you agree or not ...

Statement: Specifically calling a crime a hate crime is rhetorically in itself a racist act ...
I never viewed it as racist. I view it as bullshit special legislation for special interest groups, NOT adhering to the equality in society these groups are screaming about.

Gay is not a race, yet they are seeking such legislation.
I partially agree with you ... but ... when you need special legislation to cater a race or group doesn't that in itself uphold the need to label those groups in question ... doesn't need to be racist, could also involve gays etc ...

Does government labeling prevent sociological labeling?

I think that may be the reason that many of your opinions comes off as racist even though you say you are not racist ... just a thought ...
It is not the govt. pushing for this legislation, it is the special interest groups doing it for self serving special agendas. To take as much as they can while playing the sympathy card or race card still has a balance on it. The second it is questioned they slap a racist label on you in hopes you scurry away. This is the tactic. 
Govt. is also not doing the labeling. It is the black community that insist on being labeled AFRICAN American, never mind the vast majority of the black community know jack shit about Africa or have ever been there.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6867|SE London

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Those opinions are unfounded because I have not made any racial comments. I have never not once pinned white people as superior to anyone and H ave never not once said that the problems stemming form the black community is do to the fact that they are black.

My posts are socially motivated not racially.

and sagging who gives a fuck? Perhaps employers for one. It emmulates gang life. It is the image you want to project and when you project it, you are surprised people have something to say about it? Time to get real.
No, what you have done is to persistently post this sort of content in a very one sided manner. A good proportion of your posts are relating to differences between various races. It's what you say between the lines, not explicitly, that makes you come across as a racist.

I genuinely believe, based entirely on the content of your posts, that you are a racist.

Two of the last 3 threads you have made are about race.

Since race seems to an issue again (in fact your posts in this thread are overtly racist)
I feel frivolous lawsuits coming on. Bad Walmart announcement
you're a moocher

You have race on the brain and seem to have an unhealthy interest in anything that makes races different, not what brings people together. Most people I can think of who are so aware of race are racists.

Your shouting and screaming about race all the time, your linking to articles and blogs written by racists, your attitude and the content of your posts overwhelming point to you being a racist.

Whilst I am confident you do not see yourself as being racist, I am even more confident that you are racist. You just don't see it, even when it is pointed out to you.

lowing wrote:

What is racist about it? The fact that he had the nerve to say it?Or you think there is no truth to it?
The closing post from that thread sums it up well:

Varegg wrote:

Just thinking about agreeing with what's written in the OP is borderline racism and will yield you a honorary membership in the KKK.
That's the OP that you posted and defended btw.

Racists usually don't think of themselves as racists and you clearly fit neatly into that bracket.


As for sagging, I work for one of the biggest and most successful companies in the world. Several of my colleagues dress in that sort of manner (one of whom drives a Ferrari and several other fancy sportscars). So, with that in mind, why should employers care? One could just as easily say it emulates youth culture with little to no reference to gang culture.

Why is it that black fashion trends have a tendancy to be disproportionately demonised? It's because it is a favourite pastime of closet racists.
Ya know, after calling bullshit on your post. the only thing I am left wondering is. Why would YOU consider my mooching thread racist?  I speak of moochers in that thread while YOU are the one associating it with black people. Seems to me you might have some soul searching to do.
Note how I said the last two out of three? Then I listed the last three threads you opened. Two of which are race related, the moochers one being the one that wasn't race related.

lowing wrote:

In ALL my posts, I trash losers, not black people. Losers, include idiot saggers, gang bangers, welfare recipients, people with fuckin' pins in their faces etc....

Considering there are white idiot saggers, white gangs, white welfare recipients. I am wondering if you have ever read anything i have posted that accepted or approved of these groups. If so I beg you to post it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah - justify it any way you like. You come across as a racist. Your running around shouting "prove I'm a racist" does nothing but support this.

lowing wrote:

Race comes up in my posts for 1 reason and that reason is the double standard that you seem to buy into. I am racist because I want to discuss reverse discrimination, affirmative action, entitlement, welfare etc.. I think you are taking the easy way out of that discussion by dismissing me and calling me a racist. How about you stand your ground and go toe to toe with the discussion if you think what I say is untrue, or unfounded? Hell, I dare you.
You go way beyond that. The way you do it isn't even very subtle.

Your obsession with race related topics is very telling. The fact that you make such distinctions so frequently (and always as far as I have observed to the detriment of non-whites) shows your true colours even if you would never admit as much.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2010-04-08 11:39:29)

lowing
Banned
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Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Those opinions are unfounded because I have not made any racial comments. I have never not once pinned white people as superior to anyone and H ave never not once said that the problems stemming form the black community is do to the fact that they are black.

My posts are socially motivated not racially.

and sagging who gives a fuck? Perhaps employers for one. It emmulates gang life. It is the image you want to project and when you project it, you are surprised people have something to say about it? Time to get real.
No, what you have done is to persistently post this sort of content in a very one sided manner. A good proportion of your posts are relating to differences between various races. It's what you say between the lines, not explicitly, that makes you come across as a racist.

I genuinely believe, based entirely on the content of your posts, that you are a racist.

Two of the last 3 threads you have made are about race.

Since race seems to an issue again (in fact your posts in this thread are overtly racist)
I feel frivolous lawsuits coming on. Bad Walmart announcement
you're a moocher

You have race on the brain and seem to have an unhealthy interest in anything that makes races different, not what brings people together. Most people I can think of who are so aware of race are racists.

Your shouting and screaming about race all the time, your linking to articles and blogs written by racists, your attitude and the content of your posts overwhelming point to you being a racist.

Whilst I am confident you do not see yourself as being racist, I am even more confident that you are racist. You just don't see it, even when it is pointed out to you.

lowing wrote:

What is racist about it? The fact that he had the nerve to say it?Or you think there is no truth to it?
The closing post from that thread sums it up well:


That's the OP that you posted and defended btw.

Racists usually don't think of themselves as racists and you clearly fit neatly into that bracket.


As for sagging, I work for one of the biggest and most successful companies in the world. Several of my colleagues dress in that sort of manner (one of whom drives a Ferrari and several other fancy sportscars). So, with that in mind, why should employers care? One could just as easily say it emulates youth culture with little to no reference to gang culture.

Why is it that black fashion trends have a tendancy to be disproportionately demonised? It's because it is a favourite pastime of closet racists.
Ya know, after calling bullshit on your post. the only thing I am left wondering is. Why would YOU consider my mooching thread racist?  I speak of moochers in that thread while YOU are the one associating it with black people. Seems to me you might have some soul searching to do.
Note how I said the last two out of three? Then I listed the last three threads you opened. Two of which are race related, the moochers one being the one that wasn't race related.

lowing wrote:

In ALL my posts, I trash losers, not black people. Losers, include idiot saggers, gang bangers, welfare recipients, people with fuckin' pins in their faces etc....

Considering there are white idiot saggers, white gangs, white welfare recipients. I am wondering if you have ever read anything i have posted that accepted or approved of these groups. If so I beg you to post it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah - justify it any way you like. You come across as a racist. Your running around shouting "prove I'm a racist" does nothing but support this.

lowing wrote:

Race comes up in my posts for 1 reason and that reason is the double standard that you seem to buy into. I am racist because I want to discuss reverse discrimination, affirmative action, entitlement, welfare etc.. I think you are taking the easy way out of that discussion by dismissing me and calling me a racist. How about you stand your ground and go toe to toe with the discussion if you think what I say is untrue, or unfounded? Hell, I dare you.
You go way beyond that. The way you do it isn't even very subtle.

Your obsession with race related topics is very telling. The fact that you make such distinctions so frequently (and always as far as I have observed to the detriment of non-whites) shows your true colours even if you would never admit as much.
"yeah yeah yeah" <---- proof in point, you do not want to hear what I said you want to infuse your own spin on what I said...I can not help ya if you do not consider that I have never supported white losers any more than any other loser of any other race. Like it or not it is a significant point. You have never read my endorsement of white lazy, welfare recipent, sagging, gang members.

I am not "obsessed" with race. I view the world around me, in my case, the USA and its social problems. I speak of them and I ask questions. Questions that people like yourself refuse to answer other than "you're a racist" for no other reason than because I seemingly have the  nerve to ask.

Already dared you answer the social questions posed in this thread as well as others, so get to it if you can argue what I said is untrue or unfounded.
eleven bravo
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with each response, lowing is proving bertster right
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lowing
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eleven bravo wrote:

with each response, lowing is proving bertster right
and with each of your post you are proving yourself a troll the likes no one has seen since ruis. showed up.

and no, there is nothing I just posted that proves him right. If so, do point it out.

Last edited by lowing (2010-04-08 12:22:50)

eleven bravo
Member
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lowing wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

with each response, lowing is proving bertster right
and with each of your post you are proving yourself a troll the likes no one has seen since ruis. showed up.

and no, there is nothing I just posted that proves him right. If so, do point it out.
I think the only person who would agree with you on that would be actually be ruis
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ruisleipa
Member
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eleven bravo wrote:

lowing wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

with each response, lowing is proving bertster right
and with each of your post you are proving yourself a troll the likes no one has seen since ruis. showed up.

and no, there is nothing I just posted that proves him right. If so, do point it out.
I think the only person who would agree with you on that would be actually be ruis
I dunno I'm starting to like you more and more eleven bravo

lowing is the one with no sense of humour who's always trolling for an e-argument.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6937|USA

eleven bravo wrote:

lowing wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

with each response, lowing is proving bertster right
and with each of your post you are proving yourself a troll the likes no one has seen since ruis. showed up.

and no, there is nothing I just posted that proves him right. If so, do point it out.
I think the only person who would agree with you on that would be actually be ruis
I wouldn't take that bet if i were you
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6937|USA

ruisleipa wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

lowing wrote:


and with each of your post you are proving yourself a troll the likes no one has seen since ruis. showed up.

and no, there is nothing I just posted that proves him right. If so, do point it out.
I think the only person who would agree with you on that would be actually be ruis
I dunno I'm starting to like you more and more eleven bravo

lowing is the one with no sense of humour who's always trolling for an e-argument.
Oh I am sorry, I didn't know this was a place for all of us to come together in agreement. I misread the sign on the door.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6867|SE London

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Ya know, after calling bullshit on your post. the only thing I am left wondering is. Why would YOU consider my mooching thread racist?  I speak of moochers in that thread while YOU are the one associating it with black people. Seems to me you might have some soul searching to do.
Note how I said the last two out of three? Then I listed the last three threads you opened. Two of which are race related, the moochers one being the one that wasn't race related.

lowing wrote:

In ALL my posts, I trash losers, not black people. Losers, include idiot saggers, gang bangers, welfare recipients, people with fuckin' pins in their faces etc....

Considering there are white idiot saggers, white gangs, white welfare recipients. I am wondering if you have ever read anything i have posted that accepted or approved of these groups. If so I beg you to post it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah - justify it any way you like. You come across as a racist. Your running around shouting "prove I'm a racist" does nothing but support this.

lowing wrote:

Race comes up in my posts for 1 reason and that reason is the double standard that you seem to buy into. I am racist because I want to discuss reverse discrimination, affirmative action, entitlement, welfare etc.. I think you are taking the easy way out of that discussion by dismissing me and calling me a racist. How about you stand your ground and go toe to toe with the discussion if you think what I say is untrue, or unfounded? Hell, I dare you.
You go way beyond that. The way you do it isn't even very subtle.

Your obsession with race related topics is very telling. The fact that you make such distinctions so frequently (and always as far as I have observed to the detriment of non-whites) shows your true colours even if you would never admit as much.
"yeah yeah yeah" <---- proof in point, you do not want to hear what I said you want to infuse your own spin on what I said...I can not help ya if you do not consider that I have never supported white losers any more than any other loser of any other race. Like it or not it is a significant point. You have never read my endorsement of white lazy, welfare recipent, sagging, gang members.
The yeah, yeah, yeah is more a change the record type remark - and perhaps use an arguement that isn't so similar to ones used by racist organisations that pretend not to be racist. All the language you were using there is very reminiscient of BNP manifestos and suchlike.

Nope. I never said I had. To me you seem like a hater. You can hate lazy and poor people of any creed as well as being predisposed to dislike other ethnic groups more or to hold malicious preconceptions about these ethnic groups.

lowing wrote:

I am not "obsessed" with race. I view the world around me, in my case, the USA and its social problems. I speak of them and I ask questions. Questions that people like yourself refuse to answer other than "you're a racist" for no other reason than because I seemingly have the  nerve to ask.
Yup, just asking questions.
https://www.intelligencecareers.com/wsdc/images/blogitems/South_Park_does_Glenn_Beck.png

lowing wrote:

Already dared you answer the social questions posed in this thread as well as others, so get to it if you can argue what I said is untrue or unfounded.
When did you do that? Which questions were they?

Last edited by Bertster7 (2010-04-11 09:31:32)

eleven bravo
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white man's burden.
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lowing
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Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Ya know, after calling bullshit on your post. the only thing I am left wondering is. Why would YOU consider my mooching thread racist?  I speak of moochers in that thread while YOU are the one associating it with black people. Seems to me you might have some soul searching to do.
Note how I said the last two out of three? Then I listed the last three threads you opened. Two of which are race related, the moochers one being the one that wasn't race related.

lowing wrote:

In ALL my posts, I trash losers, not black people. Losers, include idiot saggers, gang bangers, welfare recipients, people with fuckin' pins in their faces etc....

Considering there are white idiot saggers, white gangs, white welfare recipients. I am wondering if you have ever read anything i have posted that accepted or approved of these groups. If so I beg you to post it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah - justify it any way you like. You come across as a racist. Your running around shouting "prove I'm a racist" does nothing but support this.


You go way beyond that. The way you do it isn't even very subtle.

Your obsession with race related topics is very telling. The fact that you make such distinctions so frequently (and always as far as I have observed to the detriment of non-whites) shows your true colours even if you would never admit as much.
"yeah yeah yeah" <---- proof in point, you do not want to hear what I said you want to infuse your own spin on what I said...I can not help ya if you do not consider that I have never supported white losers any more than any other loser of any other race. Like it or not it is a significant point. You have never read my endorsement of white lazy, welfare recipent, sagging, gang members.
The yeah, yeah, yeah is more a change the record type remark - and perhaps use an arguement that isn't so similar to ones used by racist organisations that pretend not to be racist. All the language you were using there is very reminiscient of BNP manifestos and suchlike.

Nope. I never said I had. To me you seem like a hater. You can hate lazy and poor people of any creed as well as being predisposed to dislike other ethnic groups more or to hold malicious preconceptions about these ethnic groups.

lowing wrote:

I am not "obsessed" with race. I view the world around me, in my case, the USA and its social problems. I speak of them and I ask questions. Questions that people like yourself refuse to answer other than "you're a racist" for no other reason than because I seemingly have the  nerve to ask.
Yup, just asking questions.
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lowing wrote:

Already dared you answer the social questions posed in this thread as well as others, so get to it if you can argue what I said is untrue or unfounded.
When did you do that? Which questions were they?
Yer right I am a hater, I hate lazy, I hate entitlement, I hate ISLAM, I hate gang banging, I hate sagging, I hate body piercing, I hate double standards, I hate special rights, I hate non-equality. These are the things I have spoken of, and not 1 single issue denotes a fuckin race. These are social prejudices that I have acquired through experiences, not through some white supremist affiliation. Now either get on with discussing these issues as I have expressed my opinion, or back up your opinion that I am racist with something that supports it.

Another proof in point, you claim I am a racist, based on what you read in my posts, yet you have no idea of what I have written or asked. go figure.
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There was no need to capatalise islam, sheesh.
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m3thod wrote:

There was no need to capatalise islam, sheesh.
yeah there is, I wanted to make sure you read ISLAM (a religion) and not Muslims ( individuals). You all seem to get the two confused in this forum.

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