cpt.fass1
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The main problem with this day and age is the "The Children are our future" Phase we're going through. Sure we need kids to keep things going, but not all kids are our future and we need a process to weed them out.

If a girl is committing suicide after harassment she's really a disturbed human who needed help. Too bad that the parents and others didn't recognize before it was too late.
Cybargs
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Stubbee wrote:

well we don't know the extent of the harassment so it is really impossible to opine on the subject.
She had sex with two of the kids... I don't think she was bullied that much...

Edit: To fass

Well most people who do commit suicide are the least expected ones... That's how they got to kill themselves. Most of the time they are really really quiet about their emotional problems.

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Ilocano
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seymorebutts443 wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

The trouble is bullying=harassment is barely a crime. So call the Police and nothing will be done.
A solid punch in the face is effective however.
as much as i disagree with a lot of your posts. This was the best measure against a bully.
Yeah, this first time I also agree with Dilbert_X.

Answer to bullying?  Simple.  Me.  Bully my kids, I (or an "associate") will fucking break every bone in your body.  End of story.
lowing
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Marlo Stanfield wrote:

Three Massachusetts teenagers are expected to appear in court for the first time since being charged in the bullying of a 15-year-old girl who committed suicide after months of harassment.

Sean Mulveyhill and Kayla Narey, both 17, face charges of criminal harassment, disturbing a school assembly and violation of civil rights.

Mulveyhill and 18-year-old Austin Renaud of Springfield also face charges of statutory rape. All three are scheduled to be arraigned Tuesday in Hampshire Superior Court.
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/region … ion=recent

I'm not one of those, 'kid was too weak for life LOL' types, but I do think something is wrong here if the other kids are going to be prosecuted for her suicide. To me, the local DA is just trying to score some political points by running down these kids lives. Now i do feel sorry for the girl, I really do, but I don't see the point or justification for destroying these kids lives over a little bullying.
No, that girls life was destroyed, the question that will be answered in court will be. Who has the right to mentally abuse another person?

I feel there actions were malicious and purposeful. In my mind mental abuse is just a criminal a physical abuse. Based on that notion, what would you say should happen to these teen agers if they consistantly beat that girl to the point that she felt her only way out of the abuse was suicide?
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cpt.fass1 wrote:

If a girl is committing suicide after harassment she's really a disturbed human who needed help. Too bad that the parents and others didn't recognize before it was too late.
Depends on the level of harassment don't you think?
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Dilbert_X
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Ilocano wrote:

seymorebutts443 wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

The trouble is bullying=harassment is barely a crime. So call the Police and nothing will be done.
A solid punch in the face is effective however.
as much as i disagree with a lot of your posts. This was the best measure against a bully.
Yeah, this first time I also agree with Dilbert_X.

Answer to bullying?  Simple.  Me.  Bully my kids, I (or an "associate") will fucking break every bone in your body.  End of story.
The problem is while teasing someone mercilessly 8 hours a day 5 days a week (or 24hrs a day, 7 days a week at boarding school) is not a crime, kicking the shit out of someone is.

Recent research suggests sustained bullying has the same psychological effect as child abuse, its not mild hazing that kids need to 'man up' and deal with.
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Stubbee
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Cybargs wrote:

Stubbee wrote:

well we don't know the extent of the harassment so it is really impossible to opine on the subject.
She had sex with two of the kids... I don't think she was bullied that much...

Edit: To fass

Well most people who do commit suicide are the least expected ones... That's how they got to kill themselves. Most of the time they are really really quiet about their emotional problems.
was she being harassed before or after the sex?
before means she was probably extorted to do it (sleep with us and we'll stop)
i really don't think it started after.
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Cybargs
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Stubbee wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

Stubbee wrote:

well we don't know the extent of the harassment so it is really impossible to opine on the subject.
She had sex with two of the kids... I don't think she was bullied that much...

Edit: To fass

Well most people who do commit suicide are the least expected ones... That's how they got to kill themselves. Most of the time they are really really quiet about their emotional problems.
was she being harassed before or after the sex?
before means she was probably extorted to do it (sleep with us and we'll stop)
i really don't think it started after.
WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD FUCK SOMEONE THAT BULLIED THEM.

This is shit is just retarded.
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Marlo Stanfield wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

What if the girl had pulled a Columbine or worse?
Pearl Jam wouldn't make a video about it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=MS91knuzoOA

Seriously though, punishing a person for another person actions is kinda crazy.
Oh really?
If your sister starts doing drugs cause she's dating this dealer, who do you blame?
krazed
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the sister for dating a drug dealer

and then bury the dealer under my shed
Stubbee
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Cybargs wrote:

Stubbee wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

She had sex with two of the kids... I don't think she was bullied that much...

Edit: To fass

Well most people who do commit suicide are the least expected ones... That's how they got to kill themselves. Most of the time they are really really quiet about their emotional problems.
was she being harassed before or after the sex?
before means she was probably extorted to do it (sleep with us and we'll stop)
i really don't think it started after.
WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD FUCK SOMEONE THAT BULLIED THEM.

This is shit is just retarded.
someone who desperately wants it to stop?
why do battered wives stick around?

stop about how YOU would handle the situation and start thinking about it from her point of view.

"Come on Phoebe, you will be one of us if you do"
"That was great Phoebe but you gotta do both of us"
"That was great too, now fuck off you skank"

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cpt.fass1
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Sorry it's the same "every kid is the same" type of mentality. WE start cracking down on Bullying it's just going to continue with the pussification of the U.S.. Then next step will be other countries will call us names, we won't be able to handle it and all our soldiers will commit suicide.

Fucking Suck it up, life is hard and everything isn't handed to you.
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process before death : (going with Dill on this one ) she should have knocked one of them tha fuck out


at present day : let'em spend some time in prison and send a message to others ( except the avg teenage mind seems to hang on to info for about 2 secs. before their phone buzzes with another text )




I know theres the internet now and that gives bullies much more opputunies but has this generation become  pussified ....... stand up to the one running the month and knock them tha fuck out ........ you'll get a couple days suspended but when you walk back in the school no-one is going to harass you
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when I was in the 4th grade some black kid in the 6th kept on picking on me.  I told my mom about it and she told me to hit him back.  the next day I hit him back and he beat the shit out of me but left me alone after that.  about a month later his friend tried pulling the same shit and I ended up whooping his ass.  fast forward a few years and Im a freshman in high school and I see this cat again I ended up growing to be twice his size.  he seemed very humbled by my presence.
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cpt.fass1
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Well kids now a days can't fight, can't tease, have overprotective adults watching their every move. They have really no freedom what so ever..
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ghettoperson wrote:

I wish I'd been bullied if it meant I got to fuck girls three years older than me. Unfortunately I was generally awesome and popular in school.
well u should of came to America that would of changed we are known for bullying!
Ilocano
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cpt.fass1 wrote:

Well kids now a days can't fight, can't tease, have overprotective adults watching their every move. They have really no freedom what so ever..
Yeah, I'm over protective.  Which also means them taking martial arts classes so they can beat the shit out of any bully.  I want my kids to get punched.  Teaches them to know pain, and toughens them, and then giving it back.  But I also take care to teach them not to bully.
RTHKI
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cpt.fass1 wrote:

Well kids now a days can't fight, can't tease, have overprotective adults watching their every move. They have really no freedom what so ever..
reminds me of a time in high school, freshman year, i got into a fight. the guy was a sophomore football player about twice my size XD. no one really won, it just kinda stopped.. a teacher was standing there watching the whole thing go down, never did a thing. never got called to the office or anything..
i always lol looking back at it. im a freshman in college btw, so it wasnt too long ago
and i agree that many parents are way too overprotective. especially when it comes to the whole sex and violence. oh no you saw a boob at 14 but we let you play gory games since you were 8!
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eleven bravo wrote:

when I was in the 4th grade some black kid in the 6th kept on picking on me.  I told my mom about it and she told me to hit him back.  the next day I hit him back and he beat the shit out of me but left me alone after that.  about a month later his friend tried pulling the same shit and I ended up whooping his ass.  fast forward a few years and Im a freshman in high school and I see this cat again I ended up growing to be twice his size.  he seemed very humbled by my presence.
you should have... nvm that's going too far
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Turquoise wrote:

On a totally unrelated note, I still don't get how Pearl Jam could go from being so awesome with their first 3 albums to sucking so hard with everything after that.
IMHO too much politics not enough talent anymore.
cpt.fass1
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What do you think is going to happen to these kids after we're all gone?
lowing
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cpt.fass1 wrote:

The main problem with this day and age is the "The Children are our future" Phase we're going through. Sure we need kids to keep things going, but not all kids are our future and we need a process to weed them out.

If a girl is committing suicide after harassment she's really a disturbed human who needed help. Too bad that the parents and others didn't recognize before it was too late.
Too bad that you think that girl needed "help" beyond being left alone by a bunch of assholes who think they have the right to abuse anyone they feel like. Too bad you think that girl is the one with the problem and not the people who abused her.
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cpt.fass1 wrote:

Well kids now a days can't fight, can't tease, have overprotective adults watching their every move. They have really no freedom what so ever..
Teasing and harassment aren't the same, there's a line which gets crossed very quickly.

Don't understimate the effect of relentless harassment over weeks, months or years.
From one perspective it may seem like a little occasional hazing, from the other it can seem relentless - it can happen any time or place, the victim has no idea when or where and is under unending stress, the effect is like combat stress except it affects a childs developing mind, not an adult.

A kid in my year at school hanged himself after two weeks at the start of the year, the school managed to evade responsibility but it was a shitty place - the perpetrator came from a very rich family in the US and is now a big cheese in the Californian govt - pm me if you're interested.

I saw multiple occasions of teachers blatantly turning a blind eye to it and and multiple times where the teachers involved themselves in both mental and even physical bullying of pupils.
The teachers were also involved in sexual abuse of the younger pupils and 'relationships' with the older ones, but thats another story.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Well kids now a days can't fight, can't tease, have overprotective adults watching their every move. They have really no freedom what so ever..
Teasing and harassment aren't the same, there's a line which gets crossed very quickly.

Don't understimate the effect of relentless harassment over weeks, months or years.
From one perspective it may seem like a little occasional hazing, from the other it can seem relentless - it can happen any time or place, the victim has no idea when or where and is under unending stress, the effect is like combat stress except it affects a childs developing mind, not an adult.

A kid in my year at school hanged himself after two weeks at the start of the year, the school managed to evade responsibility but it was a shitty place - the perpetrator came from a very rich family in the US and is now a big cheese in the Californian govt - pm me if you're interested.

I saw multiple occasions of teachers blatantly turning a blind eye to it and and multiple times where the teachers involved themselves in both mental and even physical bullying of pupils.
The teachers were also involved in sexual abuse of the younger pupils and 'relationships' with the older ones, but thats another story.
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cpt.fass1
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lowing wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

The main problem with this day and age is the "The Children are our future" Phase we're going through. Sure we need kids to keep things going, but not all kids are our future and we need a process to weed them out.

If a girl is committing suicide after harassment she's really a disturbed human who needed help. Too bad that the parents and others didn't recognize before it was too late.
Too bad that you think that girl needed "help" beyond being left alone by a bunch of assholes who think they have the right to abuse anyone they feel like. Too bad you think that girl is the one with the problem and not the people who abused her.
Well it's going to start a downward spiral. I'll be the first person to say that I don't know what happened, but allegedly they both sleep with her. Maybe she was putting out(sign of low self esteem) and then they were rejecting her in a cruel manner.

Let me guess no one on this board was teased in high school and no one got into fights?

It's a matter of if Laws start getting passed for this sort of stuff, kids won't learn to cope and will never grow up to be ADULTS.

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