Naughty_Om
Im Ron Burgundy?
+355|6872|USA
My favorite is when the admin says no attackin uncap base then takees the PLA chopper and lands an ENTIRE squad on the carrier... MMMMMMM asss holllles
Friluftshund
I cnat slpel!!!
+54|6952|Norway
What were we doing to get pushed back...?

What if I joined and was assigned to a losing team?
It doesn't matter - I don't much care and was trying only to make an observation that killing people who can't defend themselves hardly takes skills..

Do you disagree?
bobroonie.bda
Member
+143|6920

[CSG*] Bane_The_Destroyer wrote:

wooly-back-jack wrote:

lol how fitting that I get neg karma from a Gunnery seargent blatently going for his WCR keep going lad, you only have to be lame and swap teams to the winning team a few more times, need a fair few commander hours mind...dont forget!
/pwnt lol-Lame are admins that use their abilities to help get ribbons. Way to stat pad.

We have a non non-cap rape rule which pertains only to people, vehicle, etc. We allow arty, air attacks, etc. You can send a few spec ops in to C4 and possibly steal some armor but then you have to get moving. Cheap kills are for n00bs who can't fight.
a kill is a kill.. there are no cheap kills in combat. each kill drops tickets so each kill is the same. making special rules so you can have a "fair" game are for new guys that can't defend themselves. If you are as pro as you think you are you dont need special rules in combat.
bobroonie.bda
Member
+143|6920

Friluftshund wrote:

What were we doing to get pushed back...?

What if I joined and was assigned to a losing team?
It doesn't matter - I don't much care and was trying only to make an observation that killing people who can't defend themselves hardly takes skills..

Do you disagree?
if you joined a losing team.. you have 2 choices

- fight back with strats to defend yourself then go attack flags
- dont spawn
each kill is worth the same on the tickets so if someone is spawning kill them before they have a chance to kill you.
VeNg3nCe^
¦Tactics Øver Principles¦
+314|6945|Antarctica
I totally agree with bobroonie.bda.
Dtrich-]X[
Member
+4|6878
See the thing is.. People pay for those servers. And as long as they follow the EA ROE then there is nothing you can do about their addon rules. They have the right to ban kick whoever they want to if their gameplay is interrupted in any way. If you disagree with their rules do not play there.  If you feel you are being wronged get 120 to 200 bucks a month and rent your own server.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7000

Dtrich-]X[ wrote:

See the thing is.. People pay for those servers. And as long as they follow the EA ROE then there is nothing you can do about their addon rules. They have the right to ban kick whoever they want to if their gameplay is interrupted in any way. If you disagree with their rules do not play there.  If you feel you are being wronged get 120 to 200 bucks a month and rent your own server.
I agree.  They pay money and waste killing time watching the server and making sure everything is good to go.  However, I think a no "base rape" or whatever they call it rule is bullshit.
Friluftshund
I cnat slpel!!!
+54|6952|Norway

bobroonie.bda wrote:

Friluftshund wrote:

What were we doing to get pushed back...?

What if I joined and was assigned to a losing team?
It doesn't matter - I don't much care and was trying only to make an observation that killing people who can't defend themselves hardly takes skills..

Do you disagree?
if you joined a losing team.. you have 2 choices

- fight back with strats to defend yourself then go attack flags
- dont spawn
each kill is worth the same on the tickets so if someone is spawning kill them before they have a chance to kill you.
You wouldn't mind reading some of the words in the posts you'r answering would you?

Does it take skill to spawnrape?
Can you defy programming and defend yourself when you spawn despite DICE saying you can't?
Dtrich-]X[
Member
+4|6878
I feel that base raping is lame in some ways but needed in others. I think there should be a definative rule that you cannot attack uncaps UNLESS the team has 0 flags taken.
bobroonie.bda
Member
+143|6920

Friluftshund wrote:

bobroonie.bda wrote:

Friluftshund wrote:

What were we doing to get pushed back...?

What if I joined and was assigned to a losing team?
It doesn't matter - I don't much care and was trying only to make an observation that killing people who can't defend themselves hardly takes skills..

Do you disagree?
if you joined a losing team.. you have 2 choices

- fight back with strats to defend yourself then go attack flags
- dont spawn
each kill is worth the same on the tickets so if someone is spawning kill them before they have a chance to kill you.
You wouldn't mind reading some of the words in the posts you'r answering would you?

Does it take skill to spawnrape?
Can you defy programming and defend yourself when you spawn despite DICE saying you can't?
How to defend 101

- spawn AT. If everyone on your team or atleast half go AT you will land a few shots on any armor. Lots of you will die but this is your best bet. this is only 1 of many strats.. like it or not 32 people spawning AT will kill any armor at the main.

- Dice gives rules that can be added for the admin to enforce. This does not mean that because Dice gives you these rights that you have to use them. Those that do enforce the attack on non capable rule are known as newb servers.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7000

Dtrich-]X[ wrote:

I feel that base raping is lame in some ways but needed in others. I think there should be a definative rule that you cannot attack uncaps UNLESS the team has 0 flags taken.
Fair enough, but just for example, why do you think the Japs hit Pearl Harbor?  To slow down the US Naval fleet.  Same thing applies to the game, slow down the enemy advance or you will be the team with 0 flags.
Friluftshund
I cnat slpel!!!
+54|6952|Norway

Dtrich-]X[ wrote:

I feel that base raping is lame in some ways but needed in others. I think there should be a definative rule that you cannot attack uncaps UNLESS the team has 0 flags taken.
I agree up to a point..
The entire concept uncap-base is stupid, but it's the only thing we got.

Idealy we would have a retreat and would be able to spawn away from the battle, and engage the enemy again and again - but that would hardly work seeing as the maps would have to be endless.

So, we have uncaps, and in any cases - it doesn't take skill to spawnrape, which in my eyes makes it dull.. Why bother if it doesn't take skill? You might just as well watch a movie..
Dtrich-]X[
Member
+4|6878

usmarine2005 wrote:

Dtrich-]X[ wrote:

I feel that base raping is lame in some ways but needed in others. I think there should be a definative rule that you cannot attack uncaps UNLESS the team has 0 flags taken.
Fair enough, but just for example, why do you think the Japs hit Pearl Harbor?  To slow down the US Naval fleet.  Same thing applies to the game, slow down the enemy advance or you will be the team with 0 flags.
you are deffinately right and i will not argue the fact
wooly-back-jack
Jihaaaaaad!!!
+84|6979|England
you stick to your leety servers then, Ill stick with the 'newb' servers.
The servers that I have encountered lameness on are usually the ones with Autobalance 0 anyway, every time I have played on servers with Autobalance set to 0 the teams have been like 3:1 ratio involving this 'valid tactic' of baserape.
each to their own really, I prefer a balanced game so I avoid those servers.
like I said before Im all for Bombing uncaps with jets, no problem at all....why have a stinger there (which actually works now) if you cant use it against planes that cant fly overhead? before it was different, youd get bombed by a plane repeatedly, fire a stinger at it and kill 5 teammates in a blackhawk lol.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6935|NJ
I love this debate. While half these people are saying base rapping is a form of war, in modern combat what base is getting raped? Don't start that whole kill is a kill, it helps the team. Because I gaurintee that the second the game ends and you get switched to the loosing team you either 1. leave the server or 2. keep trying to get back to the other side.  So what admins on servers do, is instill this rule so that people won't drop out of the server or more people will go to the server.

One of the biggest problems I see with this game recently is the teams always seem to be stacked, with all the really skilled people on one side and people who suck on the other.  If your only one person there is only so much you can do. If your one person with people constantly killing you when you spawn you can't even do that little that you can.
MaddOps
Who the hell elected you leader of this outfit?
+55|6836
I am part of a group with a non-cap attack rule enforced.  This is altered I believe for Sharaqui but more often than not we don't have many maps we play with non cap bases.  If we end up taking all of the flags there's no point in pressing home the attack and spawnkilling at the UCB of whoever is on the opposite end.

We don't need points that badly.  I'd rather take my chances at being killed trying to earn points than throwing arty or stuffing armor into a UCB and getting them without trying. 

The Stinger move as mentioned in the opening post was a bitch move on the Admin's part.  And he wants to kick you for fighting back when you're not dropping bombs or strafing his runway?  Well I hope he's happy getting his points as the commander who does nothing and pumps the EP (e-penis) by delivering his righteous Admin justice. 

If you're in the UCB and you're shooting at passing enemny aircraft, prepare to die.  Fair is fair.
If I'm shooting at someone from a UCB I'd be surprised if I didn't have return fire in my general direction.

If you're interested in a fair bunch who won't base rape you, but at the same time allows for "fire if fired upon"  check out Just 4 Fun over in the clans section for the info.
bobroonie.bda
Member
+143|6920

wooly-back-jack wrote:

you stick to your leety servers then, Ill stick with the 'newb' servers.
The servers that I have encountered lameness on are usually the ones with Autobalance 0 anyway, every time I have played on servers with Autobalance set to 0 the teams have been like 3:1 ratio involving this 'valid tactic' of baserape.
each to their own really, I prefer a balanced game so I avoid those servers.
like I said before Im all for Bombing uncaps with jets, no problem at all....why have a stinger there (which actually works now) if you cant use it against planes that cant fly overhead? before it was different, youd get bombed by a plane repeatedly, fire a stinger at it and kill 5 teammates in a blackhawk lol.
I will agree with the auto balance.. that does suck at the end of the round when everyone swithes to the winning team.. I usually try and go to the unbalanced team to overcome the masses and pull a victory out of my ass with strats. I do have the luxury of playing with about 10 guys on ventrillo just about 4 always on and we stick together. Thus giving a major advantage to any team we go to. Is this are fault that we work together.. yes it is... is it are fault that others do not do the same? no... I do not pitty the ones i kill and i do not have morals in war. If you are my enemy i will kill you with out prejudice.

Last edited by bobroonie.bda (2006-04-26 14:08:22)

wooly-back-jack
Jihaaaaaad!!!
+84|6979|England
yeah thats one good thing about ventrilo, if the teams are stacked you just say to your pals, 'hang on - should we swap to the other team and make it even?' do it meself.
usually I chose the server more often than not, and Autobalance 1 and enough slots for us all is what I mainly look for.
[SPF]Yzerman
Member
+3|6872|TX
They should make it so you could spawn anywhere you click your mouse (in the vicinity of the flag, of course).  That way you wouldn't appear right in front of armor every damn time.
No_Smoking
all your base are belong to us
+35|6935|Sacramento
Thats pretty ghay of him. he was provoking you to attack him just so he could kick you. thats like holding a juicy steak in front of a lion and getting mad when it bites your arm off.
killer21
Because f*ck you that's why.
+400|6830|Reisterstown, MD

wooly-back-jack wrote:

lol how fitting that I get neg karma from a Gunnery seargent blatently going for his WCR
Wins & Losses 346 / 117 (2.96)
http://bf2s.com/player/37399574/
keep going lad, you only have to be lame and swap teams to the winning team a few more times, need a fair few commander hours mind...dont forget!
First, use www.dictionary.com if you are gonna insult me.  Secondly, it doesn't matter what team I am on.  I get a lot of wins because the squad I am in usually dominates a server.  Therefore, my win total goes up.  If you check out our squad,  you will see a good number of our players have high win loss ratio.  Lastly, why are people so into getting positive karma or whatever?  Are you gonna put on your resume that you got a +3 karma off of a gaming site?  Interesting...
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6935|NJ
reddog909
Member
+1|6829
to each his own view
Leebster
Member
+22|6987|Sharqi Peninsula
If he had not fired on you I would feel differently about  you attacking him, but that changes everything now doesnt it?  He clearly decided not to follow his own rules due to his personal vendetta (god I love that word) against you.  Who cares man, there will always be a-holes....but if there are a-holes, there must be good people out there right?
Leebster
Member
+22|6987|Sharqi Peninsula

No_Smoking wrote:

Thats pretty ghay of him. he was provoking you to attack him just so he could kick you. thats like holding a juicy steak in front of a lion and getting mad when it bites your arm off.
I like steak....mmmm steak!!!

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