BF2S Forums Tech: Open thread

ebug9 wrote:

Sydney wrote:

I don't give a flying fuck about the data on my OS/Games drive, I'm gonna RAID0 with all 4 drives, I've got my data stored elsewhere.

I'm just wondering whether it would be worthwile to turn my current 2 disk RAID0 into a 4 disk RAID0.

Unless you're running out of room for programs/games, you might as well just throw them in and use them as data drives.

qft

Finray wrote:

Winston_Churchill wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

0+1 & 1+0

Theres a difference?  I've never done RAID before... whats the difference between the two?

Raid 0 is when you have two hard-drives. Windows sees them as one. For example, if we use two 500GB drives, Windows will see these as 1TB. When writing files to these hard-drives, it will write half the file to one drive, and half to the other drive, in theory doubling read/write speeds.

Raid 0+1 is when you have three drives, and have two set up as is in Raid 0. The third drive then copies one of the Raid 0 drives. If a disk is to fail, you only need half the information (when reading through the backup drive, it can take any '1' and realise on the other drive the corresponding binary digit would have to have been a '0'.)

your 0+1 explanation is wrong as stated my others. your explanation was a bit RAID 5 like

Finray wrote:

Winston_Churchill wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

0+1 & 1+0

Theres a difference?  I've never done RAID before... whats the difference between the two?

Raid 0 is when you have two hard-drives. Windows sees them as one. For example, if we use two 500GB drives, Windows will see these as 1TB. When writing files to these hard-drives, it will write half the file to one drive, and half to the other drive, in theory doubling read/write speeds.

Raid 0+1 is when you have three drives, and have two set up as is in Raid 0. The third drive then copies one of the Raid 0 drives. If a disk is to fail, you only need half the information (when reading through the backup drive, it can take any '1' and realise on the other drive the corresponding binary digit would have to have been a '0'.)

You didnt answer my question.  I asked for the difference between 0+1 and 1+0.

Winston_Churchill wrote:

Finray wrote:

Stealing your picture for my uses...

So I've been using my laptop and WDTV alternately for the past 6 months to play movies on my TV via HDMI.  Its worked perfectly with both ever since I set it up, but all of the sudden my laptop will no longer recognize the audio on the HDMI.  Whenever I plug in the HDMI to my laptop the picture will change to the TV screen, but the audio screen (exactly the same as Finray's pic) shows HDMI as unplugged.  I havent installed any new audio programs or anything recently, so I dont know why it wouldnt work all of the sudden.  Any ideas?

Anyone?

Last edited by Winston_Churchill (2010-03-30 19:08:37)

Drivers for what?  What controls the HDMI audio port?  And why would it stop randomly?

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Hey, so whats a good i7 cooler for ~80-90AUD...

I'm currently looking at the Noctua NH-U9DX and Scythe Mugen 1366 V2... good coolers? or are there better ones out there for the price?

My big brother just took delivery of a Titan Fenrir, it's a monster

Winston_Churchill wrote:

Finray wrote:

Winston_Churchill wrote:

Theres a difference?  I've never done RAID before... whats the difference between the two?

Raid 0 is when you have two hard-drives. Windows sees them as one. For example, if we use two 500GB drives, Windows will see these as 1TB. When writing files to these hard-drives, it will write half the file to one drive, and half to the other drive, in theory doubling read/write speeds.

Raid 0+1 is when you have three drives, and have two set up as is in Raid 0. The third drive then copies one of the Raid 0 drives. If a disk is to fail, you only need half the information (when reading through the backup drive, it can take any '1' and realise on the other drive the corresponding binary digit would have to have been a '0'.)

You didnt answer my question.  I asked for the difference between 0+1 and 1+0.

Raid 1 is when you have two drives, lets say they're both 1TB drives. Raid 1 mirrors the drives, so when you put 1 file on 1 drive, the same happens on the other drive, so you create a constant back up.

Finray wrote:

Still didn't answer it Cammy, gg

Oh I read it wrong as well

Spoiler (highlight to read):
There is no difference, they both = 1

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

CammRobb wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Hey, so whats a good i7 cooler for ~80-90AUD...

I'm currently looking at the Noctua NH-U9DX and Scythe Mugen 1366 V2... good coolers? or are there better ones out there for the price?

My big brother just took delivery of a Titan Fenrir, it's a monster

Hasn't impressed me yet, not with those load temps he is having.

Noctua U12P SE1366 is much better than the U9. Other good coolers are Mugen 2, Prolimatech Megahalems, Xigmatek Thor's Hammer for example.

Don't blame the cooler, blame the mounting

Finray wrote:

Oh I suppose I didn't read it properly. Tbh I'm not the person to ask, I got what I wrote from Panzer, or was it Max? One of them anyway. Guess it was wrong, or I misunderstood.

You were thinking of RAID 5.

Winston_Churchill wrote:

Finray wrote:

Winston_Churchill wrote:

Theres a difference?  I've never done RAID before... whats the difference between the two?

Raid 0 is when you have two hard-drives. Windows sees them as one. For example, if we use two 500GB drives, Windows will see these as 1TB. When writing files to these hard-drives, it will write half the file to one drive, and half to the other drive, in theory doubling read/write speeds.

Raid 0+1 is when you have three drives, and have two set up as is in Raid 0. The third drive then copies one of the Raid 0 drives. If a disk is to fail, you only need half the information (when reading through the backup drive, it can take any '1' and realise on the other drive the corresponding binary digit would have to have been a '0'.)

You didnt answer my question.  I asked for the difference between 0+1 and 1+0.

1+0 is striping a mirrored set, 0+1 is mirroring a striped set. With a normal RAID controller you shouldn't see a performance difference between the two, but there is a difference in fault tolerance and rebuilding times. This is because the RAID logic begins in the base set, and because the base set is oblivious to the existence of any sets above it.

Imagine a disk-loss scenario in a storage configuration as the one suggested, four disks in either a striped mirror or a mirrored stripe. In a mirrored stripe, 0+1, when you lose a disk from your base stripe, your array falls down and goes boom. You'll need to power down and consult your local RAID utility to rebuild your stripe from your mirrors, as you can't write to the broken stripe when this happens. This also means that in the absence of a cold backup drive, you'll have to rebuild your RAID array using your functioning mirrors as the base stripe in order to get back up and running.

With striped mirrors, 1+0, when you lose a disk from either of your mirrors, then, well, it's like losing a disk from any other mirror. You can still write to both mirrors, which means that you still get to finish your work before shutting down to address the issue. In this case, if you don't happen to have a disk on hand, and don't mind the risk, you can run your damaged mirror just fine until your replacement drive arrives.

This is all enough reason to pick striped mirrors over a mirrored stripe in a four-disk storage configuration, and the pains of rebuilding a mirrored stripe obviously only increase with the size of the stripe being mirrored.

Finray wrote:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001305

>82"
>1920x1080

Pros: This monitor is gigantic. Playing WOW, the characters are about as big as I am.
    Cons: Had to sell my car to get it. But it was worth it. Hard to find a place to put it in my studio apartment.
    Other Thoughts: I can't wait to buy my next one.

The Sheriff wrote:

Finray wrote:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001305

>82"
>1920x1080

Pros: This monitor is gigantic. Playing WOW, the characters are about as big as I am.
    Cons: Had to sell my car to get it. But it was worth it. Hard to find a place to put it in my studio apartment.
    Other Thoughts: I can't wait to buy my next one.

HAH

IrishGrimReaper wrote:

What in the name of fuck.......
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/18313/1/

April 1st...at least I hope so