BF2S Forums Should the Catholic Church remove chasitity for Priests?

JohnG@lt wrote:

Canin wrote:

I already listed one previously, in rebuttle to the Anglican church not having issues, and that was localized to Australia. Every church, school and institution is having problems with child abuse. All you have to do is search google and you can find a plethora of them. I know you are smart enough to do that G@lt, I have read your posts and tend to agree with you on most of them. However, everyone likes to paint the Catholic church with a broad brush when it comes to child abuse being solely its problem and it just is not the case.

I can only go off my own experiences and I happen to live in a densely Catholic part of the country (most of the area is Italian, Irish or southern German) and there have been a lot of problems. The Rockville Center diocese here was hit with a $150M lawsuit, St. Patricks Cathedral in Manhattan had issues etc. Sure, these are a minority of churches in the region but they've gotten a lot of print over the years.

Think about your last sentence, "They've gotten a lot of print over the years." Know of any other religion or institution that has? I don't.

Have a look at this report, it backs up what I am saying. I know, anyone can find anything online to support their POV, however, I just did a google search and took the first one.

http://www.catholicleague.org/research/ … ontext.htm


edit: Ok, so I lied, I took the third one, only because I don't entirely trust wikipedia and the second link wasn't trusted by my protection programs.

Last edited by Canin (2010-03-14 19:36:30)

OP:

No, the Catholic church is a handy honey-pot for pedos and nutballs, leave them be.
Think of it as fly-paper for perverts.

God wants you to give me a BJ

i blame the people in this world for the chruches indiscretions.  if people would stop believing in santa and the man in the clouds then all would be well.  but no, we placate these pee pee touching cunts and keep them employed.  good job guys.  way to contribute to the pedos of the world.  your hands are as dirty as theirs.

Canin wrote:

It is a religion, one which I follow and believe in. I find it humorous that those here that have shown to have no faith in anything are the ones that like to pick at the Faith of others. Its almost as if you can't find yours so you have to belittle others to bring them down to your level.

nobody "who have shown to have no faith in anything" would pick on your pesonal faith in their right mind - that would be like blind men talking about lights and colors. what's being discussed here is catholic chirch - a religious organisation - and... emm... ridiculously outdated dogma it still sticks to even at this day and age. you understand the difference, don't you?

Shahter wrote:

Canin wrote:

It is a religion, one which I follow and believe in. I find it humorous that those here that have shown to have no faith in anything are the ones that like to pick at the Faith of others. Its almost as if you can't find yours so you have to belittle others to bring them down to your level.

nobody "who have shown to have no faith in anything" would pick on your pesonal faith in their right mind - that would be like blind men talking about lights and colors. what's being discussed here is catholic chirch - a religious organisation - and... emm... ridiculously outdated dogma it still sticks to even at this day and age. you understand the difference, don't you?

I know the difference between picking on me and picking against the Faith I believe in. I never said anyone was picking on me personally, I said those with no faith like to bring those with faith or belief in a religion down. For so many here to not believe in God or religion, there are way too many complaints and general whining about it. If you don't care for it, then let it be. Those of us that do follow or believe are never the ones that try to bring religion into this forum.

Canin wrote:

Shahter wrote:

Canin wrote:

It is a religion, one which I follow and believe in. I find it humorous that those here that have shown to have no faith in anything are the ones that like to pick at the Faith of others. Its almost as if you can't find yours so you have to belittle others to bring them down to your level.

nobody "who have shown to have no faith in anything" would pick on your pesonal faith in their right mind - that would be like blind men talking about lights and colors. what's being discussed here is catholic chirch - a religious organisation - and... emm... ridiculously outdated dogma it still sticks to even at this day and age. you understand the difference, don't you?

I know the difference between picking on me and picking against the Faith I believe in. I never said anyone was picking on me personally, I said those with no faith like to bring those with faith or belief in a religion down. For so many here to not believe in God or religion, there are way too many complaints and general whining about it. If you don't care for it, then let it be. Those of us that do follow or believe are never the ones that try to bring religion into this forum.

no, you obviously do not understand the difference between religious faith and organized religion as a socious construct.

ones faith, as i understand it, is something personal. it cannot be measured, brought to comparison with others, or even communicated to another person - there's just to known way to do so. simply put, you never know if any others' faith is the same as yours - there isn't and can never be no universal "faith to beleave in", because, unlike what some would tell to you, faith cannot be written in a book, it doesn't walk around in fancy clothes, and it cannot be agreed upon - that's what ultimately makes it so destructive: as long as people keep bringing this part of themselves to others there will always be unresolvable conflicts.

and this is were we come to organized religion. some would say that its purpose is to unify people in their faith (cannot be done for the reasons i mentioned above), others that its goal is to research that metaphysical "spiritual part of the world" and try to rationalize it for everybody (equally pointless endeavor). to me it is exceedingly obvious that the sole purpose of religious organisations is the same as all others' - influence, power and profit, and catholic church would be one hell of an example of that - it is, hands down, THE most successfull transnational fucking corporation there ever was.

now, this organisation and its ridiculous medieval ways is what's being discussed here, religious dogma of cathoic church is what's being attacked. but it has nothing to do with your personal faith, because nobody but yourself knows what it is.

Ioan92 wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

If God created Adam and Eve, who was created by Adam and Eve... and who did they procreate with?

On topic, Priests know what they're getting into when they join up, if they can't do it then just leave. It's about devotion. And nobody is forcing them to do anything.

Cain and Abel?

wincest

The catholic church should remove itself from the planet.