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11 Bravo wrote:

Braddock wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

blah blah brad.  its well known arabs and muslims love doing hijackings and such.  have you been asleep since the 70's?

How many Arabs and Muslims have carried out hijackings? How many Arabs and Muslims are there in the world? Now take those two figures and work out the percentage of Arabs and Muslims who "love doing hijackings and such"... you have such a stupid way of thinking it defies logic. It's the equivalent of hating all Americans because of the actions of George Bush.

Anyone can hijack a plane... anyone. As long as it's fashionable to attack planes you simply have to implement stringent security measures against everyone who gets on a plane. Singling out people by race and religion only serves to polarize society with little net benefit in terms of security.

you take things way too far.  that does not equal that at all.  simple fact is go look at notable aircraft hijackings from 1980 on.  i dont make this shit up.  it is what it is.  to deny it is to bury your head in the sand.

You're burying your head in the sand of a false solution. For the amount of trouble and division you would cause with racial profiling (including the propaganda boon it would offer radical clerics and preachers) you would get little actual benefit in terms of security. Serious terrorists are not going to go through airports wearing full Islamic dress, displaying copies of the Koran, yelling "Allah Ooooooh Akhbar"... superficial security measures will do nothing except give regular Muslims a hard time. And while you're busy patting down every Tom, Dick, and Mohammed some other extremist will slip through and score a terrorist touchdown triggering another fresh round of recriminations and knee-jerk reactions.

Solution = stringent security measures for one and all.

How would you like it if all International airlines implemented strict security checks on all English travellers because of the trouble drunken English hooligans so frequently cause on planes?

Braddock wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Braddock wrote:

How many Arabs and Muslims have carried out hijackings? How many Arabs and Muslims are there in the world? Now take those two figures and work out the percentage of Arabs and Muslims who "love doing hijackings and such"... you have such a stupid way of thinking it defies logic. It's the equivalent of hating all Americans because of the actions of George Bush.

Anyone can hijack a plane... anyone. As long as it's fashionable to attack planes you simply have to implement stringent security measures against everyone who gets on a plane. Singling out people by race and religion only serves to polarize society with little net benefit in terms of security.

you take things way too far.  that does not equal that at all.  simple fact is go look at notable aircraft hijackings from 1980 on.  i dont make this shit up.  it is what it is.  to deny it is to bury your head in the sand.

You're burying your head in the sand of a false solution. For the amount of trouble and division you would cause with racial profiling (including the propaganda boon it would offer radical clerics and preachers) you would get little actual benefit in terms of security. Serious terrorists are not going to go through airports wearing full Islamic dress, displaying copies of the Koran, yelling "Allah Ooooooh Akhbar"... superficial security measures will do nothing except give regular Muslims a hard time. And while you're busy patting down every Tom, Dick, and Mohammed some other extremist will slip through and score a terrorist touchdown triggering another fresh round of recriminations and knee-jerk reactions.

Solution = stringent security measures for one and all.

How would you like it if all International airlines implemented strict security checks on all English travellers because of the trouble drunken English hooligans so frequently cause on planes?

scoozie....... i prefer the el al airlines approach.

11 Bravo wrote:

Braddock wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

you take things way too far.  that does not equal that at all.  simple fact is go look at notable aircraft hijackings from 1980 on.  i dont make this shit up.  it is what it is.  to deny it is to bury your head in the sand.

You're burying your head in the sand of a false solution. For the amount of trouble and division you would cause with racial profiling (including the propaganda boon it would offer radical clerics and preachers) you would get little actual benefit in terms of security. Serious terrorists are not going to go through airports wearing full Islamic dress, displaying copies of the Koran, yelling "Allah Ooooooh Akhbar"... superficial security measures will do nothing except give regular Muslims a hard time. And while you're busy patting down every Tom, Dick, and Mohammed some other extremist will slip through and score a terrorist touchdown triggering another fresh round of recriminations and knee-jerk reactions.

Solution = stringent security measures for one and all.

How would you like it if all International airlines implemented strict security checks on all English travellers because of the trouble drunken English hooligans so frequently cause on planes?

scoozie....... i prefer the el al airlines approach.

You mean where they let Jews in nice and quick but treat Westerners like terror suspects? Perhaps you'd feel at home in the Muslim queue when they implement your security policies in that case.

Braddock wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Braddock wrote:

You're burying your head in the sand of a false solution. For the amount of trouble and division you would cause with racial profiling (including the propaganda boon it would offer radical clerics and preachers) you would get little actual benefit in terms of security. Serious terrorists are not going to go through airports wearing full Islamic dress, displaying copies of the Koran, yelling "Allah Ooooooh Akhbar"... superficial security measures will do nothing except give regular Muslims a hard time. And while you're busy patting down every Tom, Dick, and Mohammed some other extremist will slip through and score a terrorist touchdown triggering another fresh round of recriminations and knee-jerk reactions.

Solution = stringent security measures for one and all.

How would you like it if all International airlines implemented strict security checks on all English travellers because of the trouble drunken English hooligans so frequently cause on planes?

scoozie....... i prefer the el al airlines approach.

You mean where they let Jews in nice and quick but treat Westerners like terror suspects? Perhaps you'd feel at home in the Muslim queue when they implement your security policies in that case.

thats not what they do.  wow you get on your soapbox about me generalizing.  pffftt.

Braddock wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Braddock wrote:

You mean where they let Jews in nice and quick but treat Westerners like terror suspects? Perhaps you'd feel at home in the Muslim queue when they implement your security policies in that case.

thats not what they do.  wow you get on your soapbox about me generalizing.  pffftt.

My brother must have imagined the hours of questioning before he got on that El Al flight then.

idc about one persons experience.  it works.  plain and simple.  for a jew airline to not have any issues is amazing.  hands down.

Braddock wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Braddock wrote:

My brother must have imagined the hours of questioning before he got on that El Al flight then.

idc about one persons experience.  it works.  plain and simple.  for a jew airline to not have any issues is amazing.  hands down.

Talk me through your genius security plan... how exactly would your racial profiling system work?

i didnt say racial profiling.  fuck off man.  you are just trying to get me going, and i aint gonna play your game.  go dick around with droozorz or something.

Seems we can't have a civilized discussion without it getting all racy in here...