Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2010-02-13 10:36:08)
According to Olympic officials. Some of the athletes. the people actually riding the track, complained about it.. before the death.Winston_Churchill wrote:
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/olympics/vancouver/luge/news?slug=ap-lug-lugerdies&prov=ap&type=lgns
Apparently it wasnt a track fault, but they did add some stuff on that corner for future races
Yeah I heard that as well. Someone's going to feel the heat of the fallout at some point.Kmarion wrote:
According to Olympic officials. Some of the athletes. the people actually riding the track, complained about it.. before the death.Winston_Churchill wrote:
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/olympics/vancouver/luge/news?slug=ap-lug-lugerdies&prov=ap&type=lgns
Apparently it wasnt a track fault, but they did add some stuff on that corner for future races
They have tons of coverage about it here. Apparently there were no more accidents on that track than any other track. It was within the acceptable average.M.O.A.B wrote:
Yeah I heard that as well. Someone's going to feel the heat of the fallout at some point.Kmarion wrote:
According to Olympic officials. Some of the athletes. the people actually riding the track, complained about it.. before the death.Winston_Churchill wrote:
http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/olympics/vancouver/luge/news?slug=ap-lug-lugerdies&prov=ap&type=lgns
Apparently it wasnt a track fault, but they did add some stuff on that corner for future races
Im sorry? I dont see the quote youre referring to.Kmarion wrote:
So they (the British team) must just go around speaking out about all the tracks. Or the story is being misreported.
Three time Olympian and German coach didnt think it was any more dangerous than other tracks, pretty trustworthy imo“It’s a very rare situation,” three-time Olympic champion and German coach Georg Hackl said.
Shortly before the accident, Hackl said he didn’t believe the Whistler track was unsafe.
“People have the opinion it is dangerous but the track crew does the best it can and they are working hard to make sure the track is in good shape and everyone is safe,” he said. “My opinion is that it’s not any more dangerous than anywhere else.”
Accidents happen.Kumaritashvili was a relatively inexperienced luger. He had competed in five World Cup races this season, finishing 44th in the world standings.
It was his second crash during training for the Vancouver Games. He also failed to finish his second of his six practice runs.
Yeah I was wondering if that was for him or not.AussieReaper wrote:
Check www.google.com
Apparently think they had to pull this one:
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from circulation.
you know, now androo is back i don't find you *that* irritating. it's fucking weird-Sh1fty- wrote:
Yeah I was wondering if that was for him or not.AussieReaper wrote:
Check www.google.com
Apparently think they had to pull this one:
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/7937/o … ugehpa.png
from circulation.
oh yeah? how many deaths have occurred in these sports before then?Winston_Churchill wrote:
I'm not blaming him, its just not that the track is any worse than other ones. Luge and Skeleton are extremely dangerous sports and they all know the risks they take.
ruisleipa wrote:
oh yeah? how many deaths have occurred in these sports before then?
And thats only deaths in preparation for Winter GamesAs with many extreme sports, luging is not without its risks. The most recent fatality was Georgian luger Nodar Kumaritashvili (Georgian: ნოდარ ქუმარიტაშვილი), who suffered a fatal crash during a training run for the 2010 Winter Olympics in Whistler, British Columbia, Canada. The International Luge Federation concluded that the accident was caused by a steering error, and not a track error. [2] He was the fourth athlete to die while in preparation for a Winter Olympics competition, following speed skier Nicolas Bochatay, 27, who died while preparing for the Albertville 1992 games, British luger Kazimierz Kay-Skrzypeski and skier Ross Milne, 19, who both died in the run up to the Innsbruck 1964 games
The International Luge Federation, not only the Olympic officials, declared it a steering error. They changed the track to calm the minds of the participants, not because it was overly dangerous. This track has been in use for 3 years without incident, it was only when an inexperienced luger went down at an incredibly fast speed, lost control and went off the track that this all started.ruisleipa wrote:
The designer of the luge run fucked up, it's that simple. The organisers say it's not a fault of the track...then they say they're going to change the track to prevent similar accidents happening. Can't you see the inconsistency?
OK, first off you're saying that the fact the last luge death (?) was in 1964 means something? If anything it means risks have been minimised and there SHOULDN'T be any more more deaths. The wikipedia page you cited doesn't say anything about any more luge deaths since that one, and if you read it you notice only ONE of the three deaths mentioned was actually from luge. Why they had the extra deaths there I have no idea.Winston_Churchill wrote:
And thats only deaths in preparation for Winter GamesAs with many extreme sports, luging is not without its risks. The most recent fatality was Georgian luger Nodar Kumaritashvili (Georgian: ნოდარ ქუმარიტაშვილი), who suffered a fatal crash during a training run for the 2010 Winter Olympics in Whistler, British Columbia, Canada. The International Luge Federation concluded that the accident was caused by a steering error, and not a track error. [2] He was the fourth athlete to die while in preparation for a Winter Olympics competition, following speed skier Nicolas Bochatay, 27, who died while preparing for the Albertville 1992 games, British luger Kazimierz Kay-Skrzypeski and skier Ross Milne, 19, who both died in the run up to the Innsbruck 1964 gamesThe International Luge Federation, not only the Olympic officials, declared it a steering error. They changed the track to calm the minds of the participants, not because it was overly dangerous. This track has been in use for 3 years without incident, it was only when an inexperienced luger went down at an incredibly fast speed, lost control and went off the track that this all started.ruisleipa wrote:
The designer of the luge run fucked up, it's that simple. The organisers say it's not a fault of the track...then they say they're going to change the track to prevent similar accidents happening. Can't you see the inconsistency?
What if an inexperienced driver went into F1 and tried to keep up with them? He'd probably crash too
There have been 2 canadian championships and a world championship held on that track. Dont tell me to stfu either, what makes you the fucking guru of luge?ruisleipa wrote:
there ahve been other accidents and lots of complaints from competitors saying its too fast, so stfu you don't know what you're talking about.destruktion_6143 wrote:
Yes many more people have successfully ridden that track.
No, should anybody be held responsible for his death.http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/fe … e-trainingEarlier in the day, the gold-medal favourite for the men's luge event, Italy's Armin Zöggeler, came off his sled. He slid on his back down several curves before coming to a stop and walking away. A Romanian luge competitor was briefly knocked unconscious and at least four Americans have had serious trouble just getting down the track.
"I think they are pushing it a little too much," Australia's Hannah Campbell-Pegg said on Thursday after she nearly lost control in training. "To what extent are we just little lemmings that they just throw down a track and we're crash-test dummies? I mean, this is our lives."
The Vancouver sledding track stretches for almost a mile and has a drop of 148 metres. It has long had a reputation as the fastest in the world and is generally considered to be 10mph "faster" than any other. It holds the world record speed for luge, at just under 100mph and even officials at the site were reported to have voiced concerns.
"The track is too fast," said Josef Fendt, the president of the World Luge Federation. "We have planned it for a maximum speed of 137kph, but it is almost 20kph faster. We think this is a planning mistake."
it was a german btw, not a canadian engineerGR34 wrote:
I blame my countries shotty engineers they could have made the corner longer or had something to cover up the beams
Even worse.destruktion_6143 wrote:
it was a german btw, not a canadian engineerGR34 wrote:
I blame my countries shotty engineers they could have made the corner longer or had something to cover up the beams
