This is fucking stupid. Acting like 5 words written on a hand before speaking publicly is indicative of what, political incompetence or something is far, far more idiotic than Sarah Palin herself. It sinks waaaaaay past her level.
Pathetic. And to think this woman came close to being the Vice-President of the most powerful nation in the world. Political leaders should not just be merely competent at public speaking and debating, they should be outstanding when it comes to such things... the people who lead in our societies and countries should be the cream of the crop, the very best, not average Joes. She was asked a straightforward question and yet she needed to look at some buzz word written on her hand to remind her what her beliefs and policies were... can she not just engage in the debate on an intellectual level and answer the questions accordingly for fuck's sake?
She would struggle to hold her own in here, never mind going toe to toe with the leaders of other nations.
She would struggle to hold her own in here, never mind going toe to toe with the leaders of other nations.
All I could think of was this:
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No, it's advancing your own platform by demeaning the use of prompts and then committing the same act in an even poorer fashion that's stupid.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
This is fucking stupid. Acting like 5 words written on a hand before speaking publicly is indicative of what, political incompetence or something is far, far more idiotic than Sarah Palin herself. It sinks waaaaaay past her level.
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Two wrongs don't make a right. Many of you guys have done the same thing in reverse - defended Obama and are now attacking Palin.Pochsy wrote:
No, it's advancing your own platform by demeaning the use of prompts and then committing the same act in an even poorer fashion that's stupid.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
This is fucking stupid. Acting like 5 words written on a hand before speaking publicly is indicative of what, political incompetence or something is far, far more idiotic than Sarah Palin herself. It sinks waaaaaay past her level.
You might have valid reasons for disliking Palin. This is not one of them. Using this one when you have countless others makes you look as stupid as her.
Oh it's not the main show, don't worry, it's a blip that calls back to the larger picture.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Two wrongs don't make a right. Many of you guys have done the same thing in reverse - defended Obama and are now attacking Palin.Pochsy wrote:
No, it's advancing your own platform by demeaning the use of prompts and then committing the same act in an even poorer fashion that's stupid.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
This is fucking stupid. Acting like 5 words written on a hand before speaking publicly is indicative of what, political incompetence or something is far, far more idiotic than Sarah Palin herself. It sinks waaaaaay past her level.
You might have valid reasons for disliking Palin. This is not one of them. Using this one when you have countless others makes you look as stupid as her.
And two wrongs don't make a right, but it sure makes it even!
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Because, clearly, that's how BF2S is treating this thread.Pochsy wrote:
Oh it's not the main show, don't worry, it's a blip that calls back to the larger picture.
Oh, I'm aware. I really don't understand why she's captured the hearts and minds of so many. Personally, if the Repubs take control of either the Senate or the House in November I'd vote for Obama over her in 2012.Turquoise wrote:
Usually, Palin has no idea what she's talking about though.JohnG@lt wrote:
I don't really see why this is news... reading from notes and reading from a teleprompter are entirely different things. One being a few words that remind you of the points you wish to make and the other meaning you have no idea what you are talking about. Clearly people haven't taken public speaking classes
The points she has to make are coached rather than comprehended by her.
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I disagree. None of us have attempted to run for the Vice Presidency or as Governor. We understand our limits as individuals and have not attempted to discredit others for using teleprompters while using our own shortcuts.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
This is fucking stupid. Acting like 5 words written on a hand before speaking publicly is indicative of what, political incompetence or something is far, far more idiotic than Sarah Palin herself. It sinks waaaaaay past her level.
So no... there is hypocrisy on some of our parts, but the stupidity level is clearly greater among Palin.
Look at all the hate in the room. I think people hate her so much because she could had been Vice President and could try to run to be President. Will Obama low in the polls right now she has good popularity numbers (too lazy to go find them), but if Irecall they were within 5 points of one another.
So you're saying you thought she didn't use any aides when blasting Obama for using a teleprompter?Turquoise wrote:
I disagree. None of us have attempted to run for the Vice Presidency or as Governor. We understand our limits as individuals and have not attempted to discredit others for using teleprompters while using our own shortcuts.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
This is fucking stupid. Acting like 5 words written on a hand before speaking publicly is indicative of what, political incompetence or something is far, far more idiotic than Sarah Palin herself. It sinks waaaaaay past her level.
So no... there is hypocrisy on some of our parts, but the stupidity level is clearly greater among Palin.
I figured she used something more clever and professional than writing on her hand.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
So you're saying you thought she didn't use any aides when blasting Obama for using a teleprompter?Turquoise wrote:
I disagree. None of us have attempted to run for the Vice Presidency or as Governor. We understand our limits as individuals and have not attempted to discredit others for using teleprompters while using our own shortcuts.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
This is fucking stupid. Acting like 5 words written on a hand before speaking publicly is indicative of what, political incompetence or something is far, far more idiotic than Sarah Palin herself. It sinks waaaaaay past her level.
So no... there is hypocrisy on some of our parts, but the stupidity level is clearly greater among Palin.
Well there's your stupidity right there.Turquoise wrote:
I figured she used something more clever and professional than writing on her hand.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
So you're saying you thought she didn't use any aides when blasting Obama for using a teleprompter?Turquoise wrote:
I disagree. None of us have attempted to run for the Vice Presidency or as Governor. We understand our limits as individuals and have not attempted to discredit others for using teleprompters while using our own shortcuts.
So no... there is hypocrisy on some of our parts, but the stupidity level is clearly greater among Palin.
Christ I would think you of all people would be well aware of the policy to say one thing and do another.
As much as I dislike the GOP, I think they'll be smarter than to run Palin again or even have her as a running mate. McCain got burned pretty bad by it, and I would think none of the frontrunners would be dumb enough to repeat that mistake.JohnG@lt wrote:
Oh, I'm aware. I really don't understand why she's captured the hearts and minds of so many. Personally, if the Repubs take control of either the Senate or the House in November I'd vote for Obama over her in 2012.Turquoise wrote:
Usually, Palin has no idea what she's talking about though.JohnG@lt wrote:
I don't really see why this is news... reading from notes and reading from a teleprompter are entirely different things. One being a few words that remind you of the points you wish to make and the other meaning you have no idea what you are talking about. Clearly people haven't taken public speaking classes
The points she has to make are coached rather than comprehended by her.
Then again, I have given many people too much credit in the past....
I wouldn't consider it stupidity... it's more like not being cynical enough. I'm working on it though.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Well there's your stupidity right there.Turquoise wrote:
I figured she used something more clever and professional than writing on her hand.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
So you're saying you thought she didn't use any aides when blasting Obama for using a teleprompter?
Christ I would think you of all people would be well aware of the policy to say one thing and do another.
Alright FM, I'm starting to see where you got your reputation.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Well there's your stupidity right there.Turquoise wrote:
I figured she used something more clever and professional than writing on her hand.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
So you're saying you thought she didn't use any aides when blasting Obama for using a teleprompter?
Christ I would think you of all people would be well aware of the policy to say one thing and do another.
The point is: she condemned it, and then did it worse. Hell, you could even argue she's stupid for having been caught; she wasn't smart enough to hide her hypocrisy adequately.
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Obama uses teleprompters and stop every two seconds every sentence or so. Bush is better to watch during a speech.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Two wrongs don't make a right. Many of you guys have done the same thing in reverse - defended Obama and are now attacking Palin.Pochsy wrote:
No, it's advancing your own platform by demeaning the use of prompts and then committing the same act in an even poorer fashion that's stupid.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
This is fucking stupid. Acting like 5 words written on a hand before speaking publicly is indicative of what, political incompetence or something is far, far more idiotic than Sarah Palin herself. It sinks waaaaaay past her level.
You might have valid reasons for disliking Palin. This is not one of them. Using this one when you have countless others makes you look as stupid as her.
I wasn't aware I had a reputation.
The point is - she's a politician. Wow she's stupid, congratulations, you identified a stupid politician. Having a "look how stupid Palin is" circle jerk doesn't impress anyone and it doesn't accomplish anything. Consider the fact that this of all things is what you guys want to string her up for...come on.
The point is - she's a politician. Wow she's stupid, congratulations, you identified a stupid politician. Having a "look how stupid Palin is" circle jerk doesn't impress anyone and it doesn't accomplish anything. Consider the fact that this of all things is what you guys want to string her up for...come on.
This, of all things, is the debate at hand. Would you like to start a thread on the merits of Sarah Palin? It's part of the larger joke that is Sarah Palin, so yes, I am doing exactly as you say given the topic handed to me.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
I wasn't aware I had a reputation.
The point is - she's a politician. Wow she's stupid, congratulations, you identified a stupid politician. Having a "look how stupid Palin is" circle jerk doesn't impress anyone and it doesn't accomplish anything. Consider the fact that this of all things is what you guys want to string her up for...come on.
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The crib notes on her hand say:
Energy
{something crossed out} {something}
Tax
Lift American Spirit
What's the 2nd line, I can't tell what the words on the 2nd line are.
Energy
{something crossed out} {something}
Tax
Lift American Spirit
What's the 2nd line, I can't tell what the words on the 2nd line are.
I'm glad you feel really good about yourself for beating up on retarded children then.
Just because it goes network news -> copy/paste to bf2s doesn't make it a valid "debate" or make it a worthy topic to be talked about.
Just because it goes network news -> copy/paste to bf2s doesn't make it a valid "debate" or make it a worthy topic to be talked about.
Haha it says Gaylord on her lectern...
Only because he's so fucking rubbish at speaking it's hilarious.Cybargs wrote:
Obama uses teleprompters and stop every two seconds every sentence or so. Bush is better to watch during a speech.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Two wrongs don't make a right. Many of you guys have done the same thing in reverse - defended Obama and are now attacking Palin.Pochsy wrote:
No, it's advancing your own platform by demeaning the use of prompts and then committing the same act in an even poorer fashion that's stupid.
You might have valid reasons for disliking Palin. This is not one of them. Using this one when you have countless others makes you look as stupid as her.
We probably see less of his public speeches than the US public does but I have to tell you, Obama has a reputation of being an impressive speaker here in Europe... we must not be getting the bad speeches, post a few if you have links to them.
I wonder what Obama would put on his hand for Crib notes:
Healthcare
Trillion Deficit
Bash Bush
Green Jobs
Healthcare
Trillion Deficit
Bash Bush
Green Jobs
Now you're resorting to questioning the validity of the topic?Flaming_Maniac wrote:
I'm glad you feel really good about yourself for beating up on retarded children then.
Just because it goes network news -> copy/paste to bf2s doesn't make it a valid "debate" or make it a worthy topic to be talked about.
Yeah...Mod it up.
So we no longer have to discuss the topics given to us in DST? They're all free range EE chats? Sweet.
I feel good about beating up on retarded children? What is it with this forum and absolutely shit ad hominem arguments? What does that have to do with anything? No, really, answer all of these questions. Please.
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