well said. my dad has all of his guns locked up but i sleep with a KA-BAR under my bed in case anyone breaks in.1stSFOD-Delta wrote:
We live in a very nice part of town. Warren Buffett lives right down the street from us. There have been a lot of break ins around here lately. They happen mostly during the day while people are at work and because it's a nice neighborhood people leave their doors unlocked. A few have happened a night while everyone was a sleep and didn't find out till morning. Awhile ago some guy broke into the house down the street and murdered a little kid and the woman that was watching him while the parents were at work. Not long after that, the woman that worked at the gas station down the street was pulled from her car after work and was murdered right there. One of the guys that did it went to my high school. (My high school has 2400 students btw so i didn't know the asshole) They were all stabbed to death. Someone has already tried to break into our house through the back door but our dog scared him/them off. If someone breaks into my home while i'm there, I'm not going to dick around and ask questions first. If you break into my house, you're a threat. I'm going to assume that my life is in danger and I'm going to shoot to kill. I'm a really good shot too. I've been shooting since I was little. The moral of the story is, if you don't want to get shot, don't break into my fucking house. Simple as that.
We have a big gun safe and we keep the guns locked up in there when nobody is home. It's bolted to the floor. A lot of bad guys get firearms from break ins.androoz wrote:
well said. my dad has all of his guns locked up but i sleep with a KA-BAR under my bed in case anyone breaks in.1stSFOD-Delta wrote:
We live in a very nice part of town. Warren Buffett lives right down the street from us. There have been a lot of break ins around here lately. They happen mostly during the day while people are at work and because it's a nice neighborhood people leave their doors unlocked. A few have happened a night while everyone was a sleep and didn't find out till morning. Awhile ago some guy broke into the house down the street and murdered a little kid and the woman that was watching him while the parents were at work. Not long after that, the woman that worked at the gas station down the street was pulled from her car after work and was murdered right there. One of the guys that did it went to my high school. (My high school has 2400 students btw so i didn't know the asshole) They were all stabbed to death. Someone has already tried to break into our house through the back door but our dog scared him/them off. If someone breaks into my home while i'm there, I'm not going to dick around and ask questions first. If you break into my house, you're a threat. I'm going to assume that my life is in danger and I'm going to shoot to kill. I'm a really good shot too. I've been shooting since I was little. The moral of the story is, if you don't want to get shot, don't break into my fucking house. Simple as that.
A lot of people think that us Americans own guns because we don't feel safe. That is absolute bullshit. We have guns because well, we love em and we have the right to own them. I do. I fucking love guns. I've grown up with them my whole life. I'm from Texas, ffs. It's in my blood.
Baba Booey
lol yeah most of the guns that kill people are illegal anyway.1stSFOD-Delta wrote:
We have a big gun safe and we keep the guns locked up in there when nobody is home. It's bolted to the floor. A lot of bad guys get firearms from break ins.androoz wrote:
well said. my dad has all of his guns locked up but i sleep with a KA-BAR under my bed in case anyone breaks in.1stSFOD-Delta wrote:
We live in a very nice part of town. Warren Buffett lives right down the street from us. There have been a lot of break ins around here lately. They happen mostly during the day while people are at work and because it's a nice neighborhood people leave their doors unlocked. A few have happened a night while everyone was a sleep and didn't find out till morning. Awhile ago some guy broke into the house down the street and murdered a little kid and the woman that was watching him while the parents were at work. Not long after that, the woman that worked at the gas station down the street was pulled from her car after work and was murdered right there. One of the guys that did it went to my high school. (My high school has 2400 students btw so i didn't know the asshole) They were all stabbed to death. Someone has already tried to break into our house through the back door but our dog scared him/them off. If someone breaks into my home while i'm there, I'm not going to dick around and ask questions first. If you break into my house, you're a threat. I'm going to assume that my life is in danger and I'm going to shoot to kill. I'm a really good shot too. I've been shooting since I was little. The moral of the story is, if you don't want to get shot, don't break into my fucking house. Simple as that.
A lot of people think that us Americans own guns because we don't feel safe. That is absolute bullshit. We have guns because well, we love em and we have the right to own them. I do. I fucking love guns. I've grown up with them my whole life. I'm from Texas, ffs. It's in my blood.
if someone wants to kill you, they're gonna kill you, even if you live in a place where guns are illegal. people will just acquire a gun illegally if they want to.
because it's easier to defend yourself with a gun against a knife wielding crackhead, who will stab you to death for your pocket changeBraddock wrote:
People are so fucking quick to reach for the guns these days. I'm glad I live in a society where the thought "does this guy have a gun?" doesn't even cross my mind. I've been mugged before and I didn't need a gun to hand the guy his own ass on a plate.
Note: I'll admit, it's different for Americans... you guys are fucked, there's too many guns in your country. If you don't have a gun you're probably in the minority.
also, there has been a huge HUGE increase in violent rapes here... our government won't even unban fucking pepper spray and tasers because they're not safe enough for us pathetic civilians to have
no no it's much better to just call the police later so they can pat you on the shoulder and fill out the report
not risky enough?! you've been the victim of multiple armed robberies, when does it come risky enough? after they beat you a few times?Ticia wrote:
The same as last time,my job is not considered risky enough. I'm suspicious it has to do with my gender but i need prove it first.krazed wrote:
did they give you a reason why it was declined?
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No you don't. The proof...1stSFOD-Delta wrote:
We live in a very nice part of town.
1stSFOD-Delta wrote:
There have been a lot of break ins around here lately. They happen mostly during the day while people are at work and because it's a nice neighborhood people leave their doors unlocked. A few have happened a night while everyone was a sleep and didn't find out till morning. Awhile ago some guy broke into the house down the street and murdered a little kid and the woman that was watching him while the parents were at work. Not long after that, the woman that worked at the gas station down the street was pulled from her car after work and was murdered right there. One of the guys that did it went to my high school. (My high school has 2400 students btw so i didn't know the asshole) They were all stabbed to death. Someone has already tried to break into our house through the back door but our dog scared him/them off.
It's a very nice neighborhood. Houses are all $400,000 and higher. Much higher. As I've already said, Warren Buffett, the second richest man in the world or was, lives in my neighborhood. This bullshit only started a couple of years ago when the economy started to turn to shit. All the low life criminal assholes started to rob the nice parts of town to get all the good stuff I guess. It went on for a few months non-stop. It has been quite the past few months but bad shit happens in nice places too.DrunkFace wrote:
No you don't. The proof...1stSFOD-Delta wrote:
We live in a very nice part of town.1stSFOD-Delta wrote:
There have been a lot of break ins around here lately. They happen mostly during the day while people are at work and because it's a nice neighborhood people leave their doors unlocked. A few have happened a night while everyone was a sleep and didn't find out till morning. Awhile ago some guy broke into the house down the street and murdered a little kid and the woman that was watching him while the parents were at work. Not long after that, the woman that worked at the gas station down the street was pulled from her car after work and was murdered right there. One of the guys that did it went to my high school. (My high school has 2400 students btw so i didn't know the asshole) They were all stabbed to death. Someone has already tried to break into our house through the back door but our dog scared him/them off.
Baba Booey
The police are largely useless when it comes to personal attacks and muggings, unless there happens to be one walking by you when you are attacked they will not save you. The problem with making guns widely available to the public is that instead of the odd criminal here and there owning a gun you end up with every crook and crackhead in the land owning a gun... resulting in a society where pretty much everyone is strapping, walking around in a state of paranoid fear, itching to fire their weapon at the first sight of trouble because they believe the other guy will shoot first if given the chance.krazed wrote:
because it's easier to defend yourself with a gun against a knife wielding crackhead, who will stab you to death for your pocket changeBraddock wrote:
People are so fucking quick to reach for the guns these days. I'm glad I live in a society where the thought "does this guy have a gun?" doesn't even cross my mind. I've been mugged before and I didn't need a gun to hand the guy his own ass on a plate.
Note: I'll admit, it's different for Americans... you guys are fucked, there's too many guns in your country. If you don't have a gun you're probably in the minority.
also, there has been a huge HUGE increase in violent rapes here... our government won't even unban fucking pepper spray and tasers because they're not safe enough for us pathetic civilians to have
no no it's much better to just call the police later so they can pat you on the shoulder and fill out the report.
Pepper spray should be legal tbh, my girlfriend carries mace when she's out and about n her own.
That's why you have background checks tbh.Braddock wrote:
The police are largely useless when it comes to personal attacks and muggings, unless there happens to be one walking by you when you are attacked they will not save you. The problem with making guns widely available to the public is that instead of the odd criminal here and there owning a gun you end up with every crook and crackhead in the land owning a gun... resulting in a society where pretty much everyone is strapping, walking around in a state of paranoid fear, itching to fire their weapon at the first sight of trouble because they believe the other guy will shoot first if given the chance.krazed wrote:
because it's easier to defend yourself with a gun against a knife wielding crackhead, who will stab you to death for your pocket changeBraddock wrote:
People are so fucking quick to reach for the guns these days. I'm glad I live in a society where the thought "does this guy have a gun?" doesn't even cross my mind. I've been mugged before and I didn't need a gun to hand the guy his own ass on a plate.
Note: I'll admit, it's different for Americans... you guys are fucked, there's too many guns in your country. If you don't have a gun you're probably in the minority.
also, there has been a huge HUGE increase in violent rapes here... our government won't even unban fucking pepper spray and tasers because they're not safe enough for us pathetic civilians to have
no no it's much better to just call the police later so they can pat you on the shoulder and fill out the report.
Pepper spray should be legal tbh, my girlfriend carries mace when she's out and about n her own.
Getting a gun isn't that hard in any country, you just need to know the right people. Old military depots tbh. But things like tazers and mace's should be legal everywhere... especially for women since theyre the highest target group for robberies.
So one minute you're talking about how nice your area is, you leave all your doors unlocked for some reason and even Warren Buffet has one of his used-once-in-a-decade houses in the area.1stSFOD-Delta wrote:
We live in a very nice part of town. Warren Buffett lives right down the street from us. There have been a lot of break ins around here lately. They happen mostly during the day while people are at work and because it's a nice neighborhood people leave their doors unlocked. A few have happened a night while everyone was a sleep and didn't find out till morning. Awhile ago some guy broke into the house down the street and murdered a little kid and the woman that was watching him while the parents were at work. Not long after that, the woman that worked at the gas station down the street was pulled from her car after work and was murdered right there. One of the guys that did it went to my high school. (My high school has 2400 students btw so i didn't know the asshole) They were all stabbed to death. Someone has already tried to break into our house through the back door but our dog scared him/them off. If someone breaks into my home while i'm there, I'm not going to dick around and ask questions first. If you break into my house, you're a threat. I'm going to assume that my life is in danger and I'm going to shoot to kill. I'm a really good shot too. I've been shooting since I was little. The moral of the story is, if you don't want to get shot, don't break into my fucking house. Simple as that.
The next you talk about people breaking into all the houses, people getting murdered down the street, the murderers going to your high school.
Protip, maybe your idyllic neighbourhood isn't quite that then. Lock your doors if you don't want people coming into your houses and murdering you. Americans are fucking weird sometimes, why would you even ever have your house door unlocked. Unless it has to do with some gay neighbour hood rules which I always hear about in the USA, or unless you want to do that because you want someone to come in so you can (finally) get to shoot someone (need to justify the gun purchase and all that training and money eventually) or unless you refuse to acknowledge your neighbourhood is a piece of shit despite Warren Buffet and that locking your house would mean admitting you don't live in a utopia or some shit.
This has gotta be one of the most retarded posts I've ever seen, not even in a personal way, just so much wrong with it.
Mekstizzle wrote:
So one minute you're talking about how nice your area is, you leave all your doors unlocked for some reason and even Warren Buffet has one of his used-once-in-a-decade houses in the area.1stSFOD-Delta wrote:
We live in a very nice part of town. Warren Buffett lives right down the street from us. There have been a lot of break ins around here lately. They happen mostly during the day while people are at work and because it's a nice neighborhood people leave their doors unlocked. A few have happened a night while everyone was a sleep and didn't find out till morning. Awhile ago some guy broke into the house down the street and murdered a little kid and the woman that was watching him while the parents were at work. Not long after that, the woman that worked at the gas station down the street was pulled from her car after work and was murdered right there. One of the guys that did it went to my high school. (My high school has 2400 students btw so i didn't know the asshole) They were all stabbed to death. Someone has already tried to break into our house through the back door but our dog scared him/them off. If someone breaks into my home while i'm there, I'm not going to dick around and ask questions first. If you break into my house, you're a threat. I'm going to assume that my life is in danger and I'm going to shoot to kill. I'm a really good shot too. I've been shooting since I was little. The moral of the story is, if you don't want to get shot, don't break into my fucking house. Simple as that.
The next you talk about people breaking into all the houses, people getting murdered down the street, the murderers going to your high school.
Protip, maybe your idyllic neighbourhood isn't quite that then. Lock your doors if you don't want people coming into your houses and murdering you. Americans are fucking weird sometimes, why would you even ever have your house door unlocked. Unless it has to do with some gay neighbour hood rules which I always hear about in the USA, or unless you want to do that because you want someone to come in so you can (finally) get to shoot someone (need to justify the gun purchase and all that training and money eventually) or unless you refuse to acknowledge your neighbourhood is a piece of shit despite Warren Buffet and that locking your house would mean admitting you don't live in a utopia or some shit.
This has gotta be one of the most retarded posts I've ever seen, not even in a personal way, just so much wrong with it.
It wasn't just this neighborhood, they were hitting all of the nice neighorhoods. Ours had more problems well because we're closer to the shitty parts of town. They didn't have to go as far. As for people not locking their doors, I agree with you. You are just asking to get your home broken into, but this neighborhood never had any problems with crime so i guess some people figured nothing bad would ever happen. They were wrong.1stSFOD-Delta wrote:
This bullshit only started a couple of years ago when the economy started to turn to shit. All the low life criminal assholes started to rob the nice parts of town to get all the good stuff I guess. It went on for a few months non-stop. It has been quite the past few months but bad shit happens in nice places too.
Me having guns has nothing to do with all that though. We've always had guns even before we moved here. I've lived out in the country most of my life and there eveybody has guns and there's very little crime.
A lot of people think that us Americans own guns because we don't feel safe. That is absolute bullshit. We have guns because well, we love em and we have the right to own them. I do. I fucking love guns. I've grown up with them my whole life.
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Baba Booey
My PDF says otherwise.Cybargs wrote:
especially for women since theyre the highest target group for robberies.
http://www.lawlink.nsw.gov.au/lawlink/b … gai_07.pdf
My parents house is in the safest city in Canada, and everybody I know of still lock their doors.
http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/03/04/the- … 2;by-rank/
People also have security systems and guard dogs. Nobody has guns. Guns have nothing to do with it. There are plenty of other ways to ensure you're not murdered in your sleep.
http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/03/04/the- … 2;by-rank/
People also have security systems and guard dogs. Nobody has guns. Guns have nothing to do with it. There are plenty of other ways to ensure you're not murdered in your sleep.
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Bitches need guns to defend from boyfriends yo.DrunkFace wrote:
My PDF says otherwise.Cybargs wrote:
especially for women since theyre the highest target group for robberies.
http://static.bf2s.com/files/user/10538/crime.JPG
http://www.lawlink.nsw.gov.au/lawlink/b … gai_07.pdf
hey, my city is 15th on therePochsy wrote:
My parents house is in the safest city in Canada, and everybody I know of still lock their doors.
http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/03/04/the- … ��by-rank/
People also have security systems and guard dogs. Nobody has guns. Guns have nothing to do with it. There are plenty of other ways to ensure you're not murdered in your sleep.
fuck you Fredericton!
Getting a hand-gun is particularly difficult in this country, even our regular police don't get to carry guns. I only ever get to SEE a handgun when I see detectives or armed response police, never mind use one (or even hold one). I'm glad that there isn't a high level of gun-ownership in this country, I wouldn't have it any other way.Cybargs wrote:
That's why you have background checks tbh.Braddock wrote:
The police are largely useless when it comes to personal attacks and muggings, unless there happens to be one walking by you when you are attacked they will not save you. The problem with making guns widely available to the public is that instead of the odd criminal here and there owning a gun you end up with every crook and crackhead in the land owning a gun... resulting in a society where pretty much everyone is strapping, walking around in a state of paranoid fear, itching to fire their weapon at the first sight of trouble because they believe the other guy will shoot first if given the chance.krazed wrote:
because it's easier to defend yourself with a gun against a knife wielding crackhead, who will stab you to death for your pocket change
also, there has been a huge HUGE increase in violent rapes here... our government won't even unban fucking pepper spray and tasers because they're not safe enough for us pathetic civilians to have
no no it's much better to just call the police later so they can pat you on the shoulder and fill out the report.
Pepper spray should be legal tbh, my girlfriend carries mace when she's out and about n her own.
Getting a gun isn't that hard in any country, you just need to know the right people. Old military depots tbh. But things like tazers and mace's should be legal everywhere... especially for women since theyre the highest target group for robberies.
Interesting stereotype, but not one I've ever encountered in the US.Braddock wrote:
The problem with making guns widely available to the public is that instead of the odd criminal here and there owning a gun you end up with every crook and crackhead in the land owning a gun... resulting in a society where pretty much everyone is strapping, walking around in a state of paranoid fear, itching to fire their weapon at the first sight of trouble because they believe the other guy will shoot first if given the chance.
Pepper spray should be legal tbh, my girlfriend carries mace when she's out and about n her own.
Definitely agree with the pepper spray part.
(Then again, I think she shouldn't be imprisoned for carrying a gun, assuming she isn't mentally ill or a criminal.)
I had to blast 15-20 ninja crackheads armed with AK-47s and sporks in downtown yesterday. Good thing I had my automatic grenade launcher on me or else I would have been fucked.RAIMIUS wrote:
Interesting stereotype, but not one I've ever encountered in the US.Braddock wrote:
The problem with making guns widely available to the public is that instead of the odd criminal here and there owning a gun you end up with every crook and crackhead in the land owning a gun... resulting in a society where pretty much everyone is strapping, walking around in a state of paranoid fear, itching to fire their weapon at the first sight of trouble because they believe the other guy will shoot first if given the chance.
Pepper spray should be legal tbh, my girlfriend carries mace when she's out and about n her own.
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Baba Booey
A classic example just recently would be that cop who drew his firearm at a snowball fight, or the cop who executed that handcuffed guy at the train station in San Francisco... people are often far too quick to get the guns out. I'm not saying everyone is of the same mentality, and obviously it varies from State to State, but to an outsider it does appear to be an issue... the statistics on US gun crime would appear to support this argument too.RAIMIUS wrote:
Interesting stereotype, but not one I've ever encountered in the US.Braddock wrote:
The problem with making guns widely available to the public is that instead of the odd criminal here and there owning a gun you end up with every crook and crackhead in the land owning a gun... resulting in a society where pretty much everyone is strapping, walking around in a state of paranoid fear, itching to fire their weapon at the first sight of trouble because they believe the other guy will shoot first if given the chance.
Pepper spray should be legal tbh, my girlfriend carries mace when she's out and about n her own.
Definitely agree with the pepper spray part.
(Then again, I think she shouldn't be imprisoned for carrying a gun, assuming she isn't mentally ill or a criminal.)
It could also just be a wider social issue specific to the US. Switzerland has a high level of gun-ownership and yet very low gun crime statistics. The philosophy behind gun ownership in the USA and Switzerland is almost identical, i.e. the desire to have an armed militia in the event of the nation ever being invaded or threatened, and yet while Switzerland have maintained a very low level of gun crime the USA has gone off the reserve so to speak. What gives?
I had to defend myself with a Davy Crocket once.1stSFOD-Delta wrote:
I had to blast 15-20 ninja crackheads armed with AK-47s and sporks in downtown yesterday. Good thing I had my automatic grenade launcher on me or else I would have been fucked.RAIMIUS wrote:
Interesting stereotype, but not one I've ever encountered in the US.Braddock wrote:
The problem with making guns widely available to the public is that instead of the odd criminal here and there owning a gun you end up with every crook and crackhead in the land owning a gun... resulting in a society where pretty much everyone is strapping, walking around in a state of paranoid fear, itching to fire their weapon at the first sight of trouble because they believe the other guy will shoot first if given the chance.
Pepper spray should be legal tbh, my girlfriend carries mace when she's out and about n her own.
I agree. I think there are many factors, all contributing, but none really being THE factor. Economic distrobution, more individualistic society, ethnic/racial/economic mixing, etc.Braddock wrote:
It could also just be a wider social issue specific to the US. Switzerland has a high level of gun-ownership and yet very low gun crime statistics. The philosophy behind gun ownership in the USA and Switzerland is almost identical, i.e. the desire to have an armed militia in the event of the nation ever being invaded or threatened, and yet while Switzerland have maintained a very low level of gun crime the USA has gone off the reserve so to speak. What gives?
Switzerland benefits from a relatively homogenous and well-off population, from what I hear.
If you call a country with three distinct ethnic groups each speaking their own language homogeneous then yes...Switzerland benefits from a relatively homogenous and well-off population, from what I hear.
Fuck Israel
Haha, point taken.
And almost same cultural background =/Dilbert_X wrote:
If you call a country with three distinct ethnic groups each speaking their own language homogeneous then yes...Switzerland benefits from a relatively homogenous and well-off population, from what I hear.
You want harmony? Try Singapore. Indians and Chinese hate each other coz they think one is better than the other at being teh bznezman.
Guys,i have excellent news.
I filed a complaint and got a letter today saying they are re-evaluating my license denial. Which basically means they're gonna give it to me,i hope.
Now i have to choose a weapon
I filed a complaint and got a letter today saying they are re-evaluating my license denial. Which basically means they're gonna give it to me,i hope.
Now i have to choose a weapon
Ticia wrote:
Guys,i have excellent news.
I filed a complaint and got a letter today saying they are re-evaluating my license denial. Which basically means they're gonna give it to me,i hope.
Now i have to choose a weapon
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat