I thought naturalized citizens can't get through some security clearances =/
well he is Latino he is a minorityJohnG@lt wrote:
I met Colin Powell and Donald Rumsfeld.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
I met a crackhead former mayor of Washington, DC named Marion Barry. Top that.MAGUIRE93 wrote:
I met a couple Generals.
Speaking of Powell, not to degrade him, but it helps you if you're a minority in making general as well
ask the other blade from bf2s he is in AFHurricane2k9 wrote:
What about aviation?SEREMAKER wrote:
infantry
It's a smaller MOS so promotions aren't as fast. You want a large MOS with high turnover. Infantry is the best.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
What about aviation?SEREMAKER wrote:
infantry
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
I met Brigadier Stevenson once, well I didn't meet him, he just gave me a nutty salute and smiled. It was surreal, I'd never seen that rank before and shat myself.
He is the Lord Mandelson of the military world. wat
Jokes aside I'd give up that dream, having a dream means you won't reach it and have to feel bad about it.
He is the Lord Mandelson of the military world. wat
Jokes aside I'd give up that dream, having a dream means you won't reach it and have to feel bad about it.
And most badass.JohnG@lt wrote:
It's a smaller MOS so promotions aren't as fast. You want a large MOS with high turnover. Infantry is the best.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
What about aviation?SEREMAKER wrote:
infantry
Once you make Colonel through hardwork and dedication, maybe become a war hero like Supah's dad. After becoming colonel you will have to suck dick to get promoted higher.
I have a general dream to become lofty..
I think mines easier to obtain..
I also don't really think the West Point thing is that much of a big deal, is it?
I think mines easier to obtain..
I also don't really think the West Point thing is that much of a big deal, is it?
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West Point = Political connections.cpt.fass1 wrote:
I have a general dream to become lofty..
I think mines easier to obtain..
I also don't really think the West Point thing is that much of a big deal, is it?
Both my uncle and the General were Rangers before SF.NeXuS wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzbr6fPDmkEMAGUIRE93 wrote:
Major General Robert T. Bray, and a General who retired my uncle from the army. My uncle was part of the Joint Special Operations Command at the time. SF beats all.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
I met a crackhead former mayor of Washington, DC named Marion Barry. Top that.
My dad is friends with a General Maguire. I think he was his battalion commander in the 82nd Airborne at one point in the early 70s.MAGUIRE93 wrote:
Both my uncle and the General were Rangers before SF.NeXuS wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzbr6fPDmkEMAGUIRE93 wrote:
Major General Robert T. Bray, and a General who retired my uncle from the army. My uncle was part of the Joint Special Operations Command at the time. SF beats all.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
There is no set path, and that no set path varies depending on the service that you join.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
I know that Colin Powell did ROTC, and went from there. I know a lot of them went to the service academies. But what's the path like? Are the only people who reach such high ranks people in combat arms? It's something that has always been in the back of my mind. I've tried google but all I get is fucking Yahoo Answers.
If you join with the intent of becoming a General Officer, you likely won't make it. If you join with the intent to do the best job that you can--to take care of the troops you're charged with leading--you'll do OK.
The guidance I was given was this: O-5 (Lt Col/Cmdr) is an excellent career. O-6 (Col/Capt) is an excellent career. General/Flag Officer is an exceptional career. The latter two are less about what you control and more about external factors. YOU control whether you make O-5. Fate controls whether you make O-6 and above. Additionally, at the O-6 point, you are normally eligible for retirement due to time served and many opt for that to give their families a break, as the pace picks up dramatically at the O-6 point, with a lot less control of your life/career once you become what is considered a "senior officer".
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Ehow seems to know: How to become a general in the Army
Pretty much what I said, though they left out the ass-kissing part.
Pretty much what I said, though they left out the ass-kissing part.
How many Generals do we have?
Are you looking to be a 5 star General?
Are you looking to be a 5 star General?
The last 5 star general was Omar Bradley in 1950...cpt.fass1 wrote:
How many Generals do we have?
Are you looking to be a 5 star General?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Oops my bad a 5 star general is something that is only rewarded during war time, right?
ok lets switch to 4 star general?
ok lets switch to 4 star general?
1. ROTC
2. Branch Specific Academy
3. Rank Top 10 in class at said academy.
4. Have consistent and immaculate PT scores.
5. Have a near perfect record.
6. Choose a MOS or AFSC or whatever that allows combat experience or direct support of combat operations.
7. Have a supervisor that applies you for merits, medals and recognition at every opportunity.
8. Do something unique and noticeable.
9. Luck
10. Once in the higher echelons, wait patiently for people who outrank you to retire/separate.
11. This applies to all steps: Be political.
2. Branch Specific Academy
3. Rank Top 10 in class at said academy.
4. Have consistent and immaculate PT scores.
5. Have a near perfect record.
6. Choose a MOS or AFSC or whatever that allows combat experience or direct support of combat operations.
7. Have a supervisor that applies you for merits, medals and recognition at every opportunity.
8. Do something unique and noticeable.
9. Luck
10. Once in the higher echelons, wait patiently for people who outrank you to retire/separate.
11. This applies to all steps: Be political.
Kind of reminds me of a quote
The best ranks are the non-coms & the general. Because all the officers between have to actually do something.
errr something like that
Good luck - awesome goal to have btw
The best ranks are the non-coms & the general. Because all the officers between have to actually do something.
errr something like that
Good luck - awesome goal to have btw
Hurri: you know if you purse your goal as a general you CAN NOT post in BF2S any more.....it would be political-suicide. Plus I would prank call your office as Major Woody
Nope. There have been plenty of higher ups in the US defense/nat'l security establishment that have been naturalized citizens.Cybargs wrote:
I thought naturalized citizens can't get through some security clearances =/
Sadly - true. Pops was one of the top Naval Intelligence Officers - all of his peers thought he should have been made DNI/ RADM. But, his nose wasn't brown enough.loubot wrote:
Once you make Colonel through hardwork and dedication, maybe become a war hero like Supah's dad. After becoming colonel you will have to suck dick to get promoted higher.
I also met one of the youngest Colonels in the arly. His secret was to seek out posts no one else wanted (command of an ammo depot) that required rank one higher than his. He'd get the temp promotion, do a great job & then the commission would be made permanent. Just an idea to pass along.
Duh start a war.cpt.fass1 wrote:
Oops my bad a 5 star general is something that is only rewarded during war time, right?
ok lets switch to 4 star general?
Русский военный корабль, иди на хуй!
I believe the answer is you have to have the rank of Lieutenant General, a Score of 200,000, and have the highest rank of the month.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
I know that Colin Powell did ROTC, and went from there. I know a lot of them went to the service academies. But what's the path like? Are the only people who reach such high ranks people in combat arms? It's something that has always been in the back of my mind. I've tried google but all I get is fucking Yahoo Answers.
Reference:
http://ubar.bf2s.com/ranks.php
Hasn't there only been about 4, 5 star generals?
yeah it is. airborne, bitchesJohnG@lt wrote:
Infantry is the best.
and you get to spend time on C-130s and C-17s, so it's kinda like being in the chair force too!!!
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