Now can you please get your posts out of Kerry's thread where he almost died? Post all your analogies to how socialists are blood sucking leeches and they are at the same level of petty thugs.
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how many finger am i holding up?
lowing law is a lot like sharia, except here if a white christian says you're guilty you're guilty.
Fuck Israel
Lowing talks a lot about freedom and right to property whilst ignoring the problems of capitalism. Oh and he also thinks ALL YOU LIBERALS AND SOCIALISTS SHOULD DIE BECAUES YOU STEAL MAH TAXES WAAAAAAAAAAAAHDilbert_X wrote:
lowing law is a lot like sharia, except here if a white christian says you're guilty you're guilty.
No doubt lowing expects to be able to pass his assets onto his children - which is a form of socialism.
Fuck Israel
there is no debate, and serious talk is the sound of his own voice.Cybargs wrote:
Lowing talks a lot
I wouldn't say ya gotta die, but if it were to happen the earners of our country would most certainly be better off. tell ta what, how about you just let me keep the money I earn, and the taxes that I do pay can go toward infrastructure, and national defense, Deal?Cybargs wrote:
Lowing talks a lot about freedom and right to property whilst ignoring the problems of capitalism. Oh and he also thinks ALL YOU LIBERALS AND SOCIALISTS SHOULD DIE BECAUES YOU STEAL MAH TAXES WAAAAAAAAAAAAHDilbert_X wrote:
lowing law is a lot like sharia, except here if a white christian says you're guilty you're guilty.
Also as far as being guilty, are you saying that there is a chance that the criminals who pointed a gun at Kmarion are somehow innocent? Let me guess, you think they are victims as well right?
Typical lowing debatelowing wrote:
I wouldn't say ya gotta die, but if it were to happen the earners of our country would most certainly be better off. tell ta what, how about you just let me keep the money I earn, and the taxes that I do pay can go toward infrastructure, and national defense, Deal?Cybargs wrote:
Lowing talks a lot about freedom and right to property whilst ignoring the problems of capitalism. Oh and he also thinks ALL YOU LIBERALS AND SOCIALISTS SHOULD DIE BECAUES YOU STEAL MAH TAXES WAAAAAAAAAAAAHDilbert_X wrote:
lowing law is a lot like sharia, except here if a white christian says you're guilty you're guilty.
Also as far as being guilty, are you saying that there is a chance that the criminals who pointed a gun at Kmarion are somehow innocent? Let me guess, you think they are victims as well right?
1. Accuse people of stealing your money.
2. Making assumptions about said person.
Hows this lowing, isn't it beneficial to a society AS A WHOLE, that the government takes care of its people. Oh, and infrastructure also includes health care, education, and various public services where the government REINVESTS in the welfare of the people.
I have never said those criminals are "victims," they are fucking criminals period. Crime isn't caused simply because someone is an asshole. It is caused simply because of economics and power.
How is appropriating your resources as you see fit socialism?Dilbert_X wrote:
No doubt lowing expects to be able to pass his assets onto his children - which is a form of socialism.
1... uhhhh got another word for someone stealing your money either by gunpoint or new over inflated taxes?Cybargs wrote:
Typical lowing debatelowing wrote:
I wouldn't say ya gotta die, but if it were to happen the earners of our country would most certainly be better off. tell ta what, how about you just let me keep the money I earn, and the taxes that I do pay can go toward infrastructure, and national defense, Deal?Cybargs wrote:
Lowing talks a lot about freedom and right to property whilst ignoring the problems of capitalism. Oh and he also thinks ALL YOU LIBERALS AND SOCIALISTS SHOULD DIE BECAUES YOU STEAL MAH TAXES WAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Also as far as being guilty, are you saying that there is a chance that the criminals who pointed a gun at Kmarion are somehow innocent? Let me guess, you think they are victims as well right?
1. Accuse people of stealing your money.
2. Making assumptions about said person.
Hows this lowing, isn't it beneficial to a society AS A WHOLE, that the government takes care of its people. Oh, and infrastructure also includes health care, education, and various public services where the government REINVESTS in the welfare of the people.
I have never said those criminals are "victims," they are fucking criminals period. Crime isn't caused simply because someone is an asshole. It is caused simply because of economics and power.
2...Getting my money stolen in either case offers a pretty safe assumption
No, society benefits from the private sector, not from govt. Take phones, when the govt. controlled Ma Bell, what advances did we see? None.
The second the private sector was let in, we got cell phones, internet phones, cameraphones, computer phones etc... It is the private sector that puts the economy back on track, NOT govt. this will also solve your victim criminal issue.
Its socialism from the child's perspective.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
How is appropriating your resources as you see fit socialism?Dilbert_X wrote:
No doubt lowing expects to be able to pass his assets onto his children - which is a form of socialism.
Fuck Israel
Cybargs wrote:
Typical lowing debate
lowing wrote:
I would think you would join me in debating against that bullshit, but obviously you seem to agree with it, so yeah go stand over there.
Yeah, because we totally had internet and digital photography before the 1990's.lowing wrote:
1... uhhhh got another word for someone stealing your money either by gunpoint or new over inflated taxes?Cybargs wrote:
Typical lowing debatelowing wrote:
I wouldn't say ya gotta die, but if it were to happen the earners of our country would most certainly be better off. tell ta what, how about you just let me keep the money I earn, and the taxes that I do pay can go toward infrastructure, and national defense, Deal?
Also as far as being guilty, are you saying that there is a chance that the criminals who pointed a gun at Kmarion are somehow innocent? Let me guess, you think they are victims as well right?
1. Accuse people of stealing your money.
2. Making assumptions about said person.
Hows this lowing, isn't it beneficial to a society AS A WHOLE, that the government takes care of its people. Oh, and infrastructure also includes health care, education, and various public services where the government REINVESTS in the welfare of the people.
I have never said those criminals are "victims," they are fucking criminals period. Crime isn't caused simply because someone is an asshole. It is caused simply because of economics and power.
2...Getting my money stolen in either case offers a pretty safe assumption
No, society benefits from the private sector, not from govt. Take phones, when the govt. controlled Ma Bell, what advances did we see? None.
The second the private sector was let in, we got cell phones, internet phones, cameraphones, computer phones etc... It is the private sector that puts the economy back on track, NOT govt. this will also solve your victim criminal issue.
Also, the government are the ones who build the microwave towers that make cell phone usage possible.
So GG lowing.
More like typical conservative witch hunt.Cybargs wrote:
Typical lowing debate
1. Accuse people of stealing your money.
2. Making assumptions about said person.
Hows this lowing, isn't it beneficial to a society AS A WHOLE, that the government takes care of its people. Oh, and infrastructure also includes health care, education, and various public services where the government REINVESTS in the welfare of the people.
I have never said those criminals are "victims," they are fucking criminals period. Crime isn't caused simply because someone is an asshole. It is caused simply because of economics and power.
The government TAKES MONEY (which one could easily interpret as a form of stealing, except that it is legal) by requirement and redistributes it BY ITS OWN WILL. It doesn't matter if it puts that money back in one form or another, even excluding arguments of corruption or inefficiency. The point of the matter is you are no longer in control of what was taken from you to do with as you please - a human right viewed as fundamental to people including the founding fathers and many enlightenment philosophers. Many would be happy to give up whatever (subjectively) reasonable amount of money the government asks for, and most (including lowing, not to speak for him) recognize the need for the government to raise money in an orderly manner for things like the national defense. That being the case, it doesn't give the right to those who believe in government social intervention to take away the rights of those who don't.
"...they are fucking criminals period..." but it's not they're fault, it's our fault as a nation right? Caused because of economics and power my ass. The only reason economics exists is because there is scarcity. Where there is scarcity, there is crime. Don't give me bullshit about less scarcity through social programs means less crime, that's irrelevant when the point is what do you do with criminals that will exist in any socioeconomic climate, no matter how numerous.
No, it's not. It's money from a parent who died. Everything goes back to the state in a socialist country. There are no parallels between a state where there is no private property to a parent passing on property.Dilbert_X wrote:
Its socialism from the child's perspective.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
How is appropriating your resources as you see fit socialism?Dilbert_X wrote:
No doubt lowing expects to be able to pass his assets onto his children - which is a form of socialism.
Please squirm more.
I am not saying it is the fault of the nation that breeds the criminals, I provide a rationale that explains crime. Simple economic greed. People rob because they see profit in it. Crime does have A LOT to do with economics. Where poverty exists, violent acts exists. Thomas Bartnett figured out that when a country reaches above a GDP per capita of 3,000 USD, civil wars are near non-existent. Why would anyone steal or kill except for monetary reasons? Money is power, and you should know this best Flaming. Sure criminals do exist in every socioeconomic climate, but its the amount of crime that is caused by poverty. Ever heard people get robbed a lot in Switzerland? Norway? Finland? Crime in America is the highest amongst the developed world, and is caused mostly by poor blacks.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
More like typical conservative witch hunt.Cybargs wrote:
Typical lowing debate
1. Accuse people of stealing your money.
2. Making assumptions about said person.
Hows this lowing, isn't it beneficial to a society AS A WHOLE, that the government takes care of its people. Oh, and infrastructure also includes health care, education, and various public services where the government REINVESTS in the welfare of the people.
I have never said those criminals are "victims," they are fucking criminals period. Crime isn't caused simply because someone is an asshole. It is caused simply because of economics and power.
The government TAKES MONEY (which one could easily interpret as a form of stealing, except that it is legal) by requirement and redistributes it BY ITS OWN WILL. It doesn't matter if it puts that money back in one form or another, even excluding arguments of corruption or inefficiency. The point of the matter is you are no longer in control of what was taken from you to do with as you please - a human right viewed as fundamental to people including the founding fathers and many enlightenment philosophers. Many would be happy to give up whatever (subjectively) reasonable amount of money the government asks for, and most (including lowing, not to speak for him) recognize the need for the government to raise money in an orderly manner for things like the national defense. That being the case, it doesn't give the right to those who believe in government social intervention to take away the rights of those who don't.
"...they are fucking criminals period..." but it's not they're fault, it's our fault as a nation right? Caused because of economics and power my ass. The only reason economics exists is because there is scarcity. Where there is scarcity, there is crime. Don't give me bullshit about less scarcity through social programs means less crime, that's irrelevant when the point is what do you do with criminals that will exist in any socioeconomic climate, no matter how numerous.
And on taxes... It is necessary to keep power monopolies in check, as it is more beneficial to a country where it has a strong middle class backbone. I am not saying the government should blindly hand out money to those in need, I am simply saying the government should invest in infrastructures that would help ALL the people (education, health care etc)
uhhhh nooooooooooo it isn't. It is called inheritance. Or do you have some one else in mind to receive my asset, Let me guess. youDilbert_X wrote:
No doubt lowing expects to be able to pass his assets onto his children - which is a form of socialism.
Death tax. Might as well invest in that life insurance shit, should be tax deductible right?lowing wrote:
uhhhh nooooooooooo it isn't. It is called inheritance. Or do you have some one else in mind to receive my asset, Let me guess. youDilbert_X wrote:
No doubt lowing expects to be able to pass his assets onto his children - which is a form of socialism.
really? link pleaseDoctor Strangelove wrote:
Yeah, because we totally had internet and digital photography before the 1990's.lowing wrote:
1... uhhhh got another word for someone stealing your money either by gunpoint or new over inflated taxes?Cybargs wrote:
Typical lowing debate
1. Accuse people of stealing your money.
2. Making assumptions about said person.
Hows this lowing, isn't it beneficial to a society AS A WHOLE, that the government takes care of its people. Oh, and infrastructure also includes health care, education, and various public services where the government REINVESTS in the welfare of the people.
I have never said those criminals are "victims," they are fucking criminals period. Crime isn't caused simply because someone is an asshole. It is caused simply because of economics and power.
2...Getting my money stolen in either case offers a pretty safe assumption
No, society benefits from the private sector, not from govt. Take phones, when the govt. controlled Ma Bell, what advances did we see? None.
The second the private sector was let in, we got cell phones, internet phones, cameraphones, computer phones etc... It is the private sector that puts the economy back on track, NOT govt. this will also solve your victim criminal issue.
Also, the government are the ones who build the microwave towers that make cell phone usage possible.
So GG lowing.
The govt builds nothing
There's a whole lot of stupid in this thread.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Internet... Roads... Highways... List goes on.lowing wrote:
really? link pleaseDoctor Strangelove wrote:
Yeah, because we totally had internet and digital photography before the 1990's.lowing wrote:
1... uhhhh got another word for someone stealing your money either by gunpoint or new over inflated taxes?
2...Getting my money stolen in either case offers a pretty safe assumption
No, society benefits from the private sector, not from govt. Take phones, when the govt. controlled Ma Bell, what advances did we see? None.
The second the private sector was let in, we got cell phones, internet phones, cameraphones, computer phones etc... It is the private sector that puts the economy back on track, NOT govt. this will also solve your victim criminal issue.
Also, the government are the ones who build the microwave towers that make cell phone usage possible.
So GG lowing.
The govt builds nothing
i hope you mean the "Federal" government. The state government employs 65% of my staff, engineering roads and highways, with a large percentage of the remainder employing us for hydrology projects, which are in turn used by the state.lowing wrote:
The govt builds nothing
Cybargs wrote:
I am not saying it is the fault of the nation that breeds the criminals, I provide a rationale that explains crime. Simple economic greed. People rob because they see profit in it. Crime does have A LOT to do with economics. Where poverty exists, violent acts exists. Thomas Bartnett figured out that when a country reaches above a GDP per capita of 3,000 USD, civil wars are near non-existent. Why would anyone steal or kill except for monetary reasons? Money is power, and you should know this best Flaming. Sure criminals do exist in every socioeconomic climate, but its the amount of crime that is caused by poverty. Ever heard people get robbed a lot in Switzerland? Norway? Finland? Crime in America is the highest amongst the developed world, and is caused mostly by poor blacks.Flaming_Maniac wrote:
More like typical conservative witch hunt.Cybargs wrote:
Typical lowing debate
1. Accuse people of stealing your money.
2. Making assumptions about said person.
Hows this lowing, isn't it beneficial to a society AS A WHOLE, that the government takes care of its people. Oh, and infrastructure also includes health care, education, and various public services where the government REINVESTS in the welfare of the people.
I have never said those criminals are "victims," they are fucking criminals period. Crime isn't caused simply because someone is an asshole. It is caused simply because of economics and power.
The government TAKES MONEY (which one could easily interpret as a form of stealing, except that it is legal) by requirement and redistributes it BY ITS OWN WILL. It doesn't matter if it puts that money back in one form or another, even excluding arguments of corruption or inefficiency. The point of the matter is you are no longer in control of what was taken from you to do with as you please - a human right viewed as fundamental to people including the founding fathers and many enlightenment philosophers. Many would be happy to give up whatever (subjectively) reasonable amount of money the government asks for, and most (including lowing, not to speak for him) recognize the need for the government to raise money in an orderly manner for things like the national defense. That being the case, it doesn't give the right to those who believe in government social intervention to take away the rights of those who don't.
"...they are fucking criminals period..." but it's not they're fault, it's our fault as a nation right? Caused because of economics and power my ass. The only reason economics exists is because there is scarcity. Where there is scarcity, there is crime. Don't give me bullshit about less scarcity through social programs means less crime, that's irrelevant when the point is what do you do with criminals that will exist in any socioeconomic climate, no matter how numerous.
And on taxes... It is necessary to keep power monopolies in check, as it is more beneficial to a country where it has a strong middle class backbone. I am not saying the government should blindly hand out money to those in need, I am simply saying the government should invest in infrastructures that would help ALL the people (education, health care etc)
I told you not to and you did anyways.what I already wrote wrote:
Don't give me bullshit about less scarcity through social programs means less crime, that's irrelevant when the point is what do you do with criminals that will exist in any socioeconomic climate, no matter how numerous.
Education and healthcare is not infrastructure. Roads, power grids, sewage systems, those are examples of infrastructure. Education and healthcare are examples of services that can be provided publicly or privately. Forcing people to pay into such systems is immoral. If you happen to believe in them then you don't mind, so despite being wrong there isn't really a problem. There is a problem where people don't believe in it.
Nope the govt. contracts this out, federal money to states and states handle it eother through contracting or state workers.Cybargs wrote:
Internet... Roads... Highways... List goes on.lowing wrote:
really? link pleaseDoctor Strangelove wrote:
Yeah, because we totally had internet and digital photography before the 1990's.
Also, the government are the ones who build the microwave towers that make cell phone usage possible.
So GG lowing.
The govt builds nothing
FM is the only one using logic in this entire thread. Too bad I can't karma him again.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
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